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  • #5,061
  • Oct 31, 2017 2:09pm Oct 31, 2017 2:09pm
Quoting thiha
{quote} Dear Akt, thank you for your comment sir. About the profit margin, you were addressing that opposing supply zones in 4H? Thanks
Hello thiha
I was referring to the way prices were pausing just before the zone at the time
It is worth ongoing monitoring for sure to see what the profit margin looks like if and when it arrives at that demand

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,062
  • Nov 1, 2017 12:16pm Nov 1, 2017 12:16pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone The next installment in the T.I.O.F Chapters series A big thank you to the Late Mark Douglas for elucidating the psychological concepts expressed here in a way that most psychologists and psychiatrists find hard to convey. IS TRADING SPECULATION OR AN EXACT SCIENCE? “The Dow is going to 24,000”, “the Euro is going to parity”, “Oil will tank this year”.
man i would love to sit down 1 day and just talk trading with you. not about the how to or what but just the overall toll trading takes on a person and how i find it to be one of if not the most difficult thing to do in this world as a profession.

with that said i am compelled to add to this subject my thoughts if i may.... i think that this simple truth of speculation is what makes trading so difficult and what evokes so much emotion. i think as humans we are wired and built to understand and KNOW that 1 + 1 = 2 and that is the absolute truth. we come to approach things from everyday practices to more advanced researches with the understanding that given certain circumstances they should ALWAYS add up to the same result. for me i understand after years of "speculating" the markets that the only CERTAINTY in trading is there is none LOL. and because of that the byproduct or end result is what breeds the "system jumping" that so many traders go through. and keeping with transparency and honesty i myself still to this day all be it a whole lost less experience those times of emotions. but to me this is where the rub lies... what i find to be extremely difficult with trading a system is because the market isnt as simple as 1 + 1 = 2 its hard for me to differentiate is THE problem with my speculation (ie. system) or is this just the market being the market. for example being a S&D trader there will be times where i will look back and say well did i follow my rules and the trade didnt just work out OR am i not trading the system the right way or do i even know what im doing LOL? so because of the uncertainty of the market and because this is in fact speculation rather than science you are therefore left with self doubt. and i think i speak for many of us that as a result of that self doubt we sometimes or often question our trading system if it works or is it you who just isnt trading the system correctly. as i step off the soap box i just want to say trading will test your discipline, your patience, your resolve, but more than that it will have you question a lot of things about yourself. and to me win lose or draw this journey has taught me more about myself then i could have ever imagined and for that i am grateful for trading. anyways this subject has always fascinated me hope i didnt waste anyones time.
  • #5,063
  • Nov 2, 2017 4:41am Nov 2, 2017 4:41am
Hi. Dear Akt and fellow traders. I see an opportunity to sell EUR JPY. The opposite demand area in the Daily timeframe removed. What do you think? Thanks in advance.
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I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
  • #5,064
  • Nov 2, 2017 6:33am Nov 2, 2017 6:33am
Quoting BogdanM.ua
Hi. Dear Akt and fellow traders. I see an opportunity to sell EUR JPY. The opposite demand area in the Daily timeframe removed. What do you think? Thanks in advance. {image}
Hello BogdanM.ua
thank you for sharing this trade idea on the EURJPY

I concur. A counter trend trade to be clear but with a decent enough profit potential

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,065
  • Nov 2, 2017 10:55am Nov 2, 2017 10:55am
[Цитата= "акт"; 10452202]{Цитата} Привіт BogdanM.ua спасибі, що поділилися цієї торгової ідеєю на сьогодні я згоден. Контр тренд торгувати буде зрозуміло, але з досить непоганий потенціал прибутку найкращими побажаннями[/Цитата]

Thank you very much.
I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
  • #5,066
  • Nov 2, 2017 3:17pm Nov 2, 2017 3:17pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone The next installment in the T.I.O.F Chapters series A big thank you to the Late Mark Douglas for elucidating the psychological concepts expressed here in a way that most psychologists and psychiatrists find hard to convey. IS TRADING SPECULATION OR AN EXACT SCIENCE? “The Dow is going to 24,000”, “the Euro is going to parity”, “Oil will tank this year”. In my years as a speculator, I have come across uncountable colleagues who have made bold and audacious claims about the direction of a particular market, sometimes they are correct...
well said, good information.
50/50 a trade, but a (lower/higher) return as a (good/better) trader.

Greets
Joe
  • #5,067
  • Nov 3, 2017 1:36am Nov 3, 2017 1:36am
Hello everyone.

Thought for the day from "The Greatest"

“Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men and women who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it..... Muhammad Ali

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,068
  • Nov 3, 2017 5:36am Nov 3, 2017 5:36am
Hi Akt,
what a wonderful thread , very impressed by the amicable relationship that exists and is maintained by all members. How I stumbled onto your thread is a long story! Out of sheer frustration with customized systems, and lagging indicators, I started investigating other sources and ways of trading. Months of studying price action, naked charts eventually resulted in my coming to grips with "supply and demand". But it did not end there, it still meant I had to syphon through the various threads here on Forex Factory, to eventually find this gem of a thread.
I have subscribed both to your thread and Storehouse Analytics on YT, and have worked through the TIOF thread and watched most of the videos available on YT. Thank you very much for sharing this information and making it available. May you be blessed for your genuine endeavour to help fellow and novice traders.
For me the next logical step is, joining your group and attending the webinars, will be sending you my e-mail details.
In appreciation
Regards
agh
  • #5,069
  • Nov 3, 2017 9:36am Nov 3, 2017 9:36am
comments please!
https://www.tradingview.com/x/VZWKzHSV/
https://www.tradingview.com/x/eaeW7ak6/

or was their a safer exit above ?
  • #5,070
  • Nov 3, 2017 7:08pm Nov 3, 2017 7:08pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone The next installment in the T.I.O.F Chapters series A big thank you to the Late Mark Douglas for elucidating the psychological concepts expressed here in a way that most psychologists and psychiatrists find hard to convey. IS TRADING SPECULATION OR AN EXACT SCIENCE? “The Dow is going to 24,000”, “the Euro is going to parity”, “Oil will tank this year”. In my years as a speculator, I have come across uncountable colleagues who have made bold and audacious claims about the direction of a particular market, sometimes they are correct...
Thank you AKT for sharing this. Very helpful. I have already blown one account and this will really help me to have the right mindset and don't give up attitude !
BTW, was busy blowing up my account, didn't get time to go through the forum much. :-)
  • #5,071
  • Nov 4, 2017 5:20am Nov 4, 2017 5:20am
Hello Akt and traders,

Please let me post this for a question.
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Thanks ..
  • #5,072
  • Nov 4, 2017 6:08am Nov 4, 2017 6:08am
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt and traders, Please let me post this for a question. {image} Thanks ..
I believe it is. Monthly up, weekly up, good departure on W and D. I've put buy limit order on D DZ inside this W DZ. The only doubt I have is that dollar index broke descending TL on weekly.
Regards
  • #5,073
  • Nov 4, 2017 8:27am Nov 4, 2017 8:27am
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt and traders, Please let me post this for a question. {image} Thanks ..
Hello thiha

Yes it is

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,074
  • Nov 4, 2017 9:35am Nov 4, 2017 9:35am
Hello everyone.

In answering some questions i have received about whether or not Supply and demand works in Stocks, here are some of my thoughts on Antofagasta - a UK based company listed on the FTSE 100.

It is used in Stocks, Options, Futures, Forex, and Commodities trading.
Each market has its own specifications and uniqueness in terms of its own mechanics, but when it comes to the approach used for chart analysis, Supply and demand, like any other chart analysis technique and methodology, can be used.

best wishes
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  • #5,075
  • Nov 4, 2017 11:30am Nov 4, 2017 11:30am
Special thanks to Akt and Yunvic for the answer. Always appreciated.
  • #5,076
  • Nov 5, 2017 4:20am Nov 5, 2017 4:20am
Hello everyone.

A big thank you to all the people who took out their time to attend yesterday's webinar. Much appreciated.

The recording has been sent out to attendees and has also been posted on the Youtube channel.

Hopefully we can get to do another one before Christmas.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,077
  • Nov 5, 2017 11:21am Nov 5, 2017 11:21am
Hi, I am kinda new in here. May you give a clue when to mark the base as a fresh base or the retested base?
  • #5,078
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:11pm Nov 5, 2017 1:11pm
What do you guys think about the MT4 add-ons that give automatic supply and demand zones?

I'm in no way affiliated with the one I link to here, I only just installed it and look forward to trying it out. I'm actually new to the S&D method but keen to try it out after listening to Mr. Seiden and several other "Order Flow" commentaries.

https://www.mql5.com/en/code/14545
  • #5,079
  • Nov 5, 2017 1:52pm Nov 5, 2017 1:52pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Yunvic If i may, i think you are referring to authenticity or association, rather than freshness Freshness is determined by whether or not prices have returned to a zone since it was created. Authenticity is determined by whether or not a zone was created as a result of the reaction of price to another zone Authenticity is a more advanced concept and can be confusing for newer S.A.D traders. It is actually not that necessary except in some particular situations. In this case, the daily SZ was fresh best wishes{image}

hhshnz : check this post by Michael
  • #5,080
  • Nov 5, 2017 8:05pm Nov 5, 2017 8:05pm
Daily, 4H, 1H on CAD/JPY. Looks like a good selling opportunity coming. Please give me your thoughts. They are welcome and appreciated.
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I'm not a pro, I'm learning though.
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