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  • #5,021
  • Oct 26, 2017 11:47am Oct 26, 2017 11:47am
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt and traders, please check this one out. Weekly momentum is broken and forming lower low on weekly and daily too. Price is at daily demand zone at the moment and I am looking to short at big 4H imbalance. But as I describe on the chart we should be aware of how price swing back to 4H supply to get a better profit margin. your comments and suggestions are much appreciated and welcomed. {image} Thank you. regards thiha
Hello Thiha

here are some of my thoughts on CADCHF

best wishes
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  • #5,022
  • Oct 26, 2017 11:51am Oct 26, 2017 11:51am
Quoting foxtrader16
Chart Analysis : EURNZD Time Frame : M1 - W1 - D1 M1 {image} W1 {image} D1 {image} Your comments and inputs are most welcome
i would personally prefer the D1 zone within the WK simply because it's nested
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  • #5,023
  • Oct 26, 2017 11:54am Oct 26, 2017 11:54am
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt and traders, Please comment your thoughts process upon this chart and correct me for anything that is missing. {image} Thank you so much.
Hello thiha

To answer your questions,

Yes, it is weekly demand
Should we be looking for longs, it depends on whether that weekly demand is at a monthly level. It isn't.
So it would be more challenging to trade it

best wishes
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  • #5,024
  • Oct 26, 2017 11:57am Oct 26, 2017 11:57am
Quoting thiha
{quote} First off, thanks and appreciate your reply Yunvic. But after reading your reply, I wanna make sure about zone theory. My question is: "Is a zone valid only if it removes opposing zone?" because sometimes I am seeing in AKT videos, some zones are not taking out anything but just have big move away with ERC. Please do correct me if I am wrong because I gotta make sure I am doing right with this methodology's rules. please check my chart again about the questions. {image} Thank you. regards thiha
You are correct! But then again if the next opposing zone to take out is 10 light years away , you'll probaby never trade that pair until the opposing zone is taken out. So if lets say for example. The next demand is way way below and price is creating quality DBD / RBD patterns on the way down i guess you COULD call that a zone.
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  • #5,025
  • Oct 26, 2017 12:05pm Oct 26, 2017 12:05pm
Quoting foxtrader16
Chart Analysis : EURNZD Time Frame : M1 - W1 - D1 M1 {image} W1 {image} D1 {image} Your comments and inputs are most welcome
Hello foxtrader16

If i may, some thoughts on the EURNZD chart you kindly shared on.

best wishes
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  • #5,026
  • Oct 26, 2017 12:21pm Oct 26, 2017 12:21pm
[quote=thiha;10429918]{quote} First off, thanks and appreciate your reply Yunvic. But after reading your reply, I wanna make sure about zone theory. My question is: "Is a zone valid only if it removes opposing zone?" because sometimes I am seeing in AKT videos, some zones are not taking out anything but just have big move away with ERC. Please do correct me if I am wrong because I gotta make sure I am doing right with this methodology's rules. please check my chart again about the questions. {image} Thank you. regards thiha[/quote

Hello thiha

If i may, some ideas to think about regarding zones here, as a case study

best wishes
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  • #5,027
  • Oct 26, 2017 1:21pm Oct 26, 2017 1:21pm
Quoting thiha
{quote} First off, thanks and appreciate your reply Yunvic. But after reading your reply, I wanna make sure about zone theory. My question is: "Is a zone valid only if it removes opposing zone?" because sometimes I am seeing in AKT videos, some zones are not taking out anything but just have big move away with ERC. Please do correct me if I am wrong because I gotta make sure I am doing right with this methodology's rules. please check my chart again about the questions. {image} Thank you. regards thiha
Dear Thiha,
Rules tell us that there are only two criterias for creating the zones: 1. removing opposing zones; 2. breaking TL. Quality and tradability of a zone is another aspect, nothing to do with the zone definition. On your chart from left to right: 1,2,3 are not zones. 4 is a DZ because it broke the TL. Please, note that this descending TL has nothing to do with downtrend which is absent here. 5 is a SZ because it overshot 4.
Regards
  • #5,028
  • Oct 26, 2017 1:31pm Oct 26, 2017 1:31pm
Quoting isaacpeh
{quote} You are correct! But then again if the next opposing zone to take out is 10 light years away , you'll probaby never trade that pair until the opposing zone is taken out. So if lets say for example. The next demand is way way below and price is creating quality DBD / RBD patterns on the way down i guess you COULD call that a zone.
Dear Isaacpeh, in this case on the way down either wait for TL break, creating DZ and then SZ, or just go to upper TF. As for me.
Regards
  • #5,029
  • Oct 26, 2017 4:31pm Oct 26, 2017 4:31pm
Nice to meet you too Atk, and thanks for the reply,
Yes I should defiantly be more clear on the set up.
so I have W/D/4hr/30mins
So to me all 4 timeframes look like the are in a down trend.
but weekly is in a demand zone which looks like it is gonna be removed,
I’m just wondering if the 4hr/30minute zones are valid set forget.
thanks hope this is more clear.
(need to figure out how to put the reply quote in. )
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  • #5,030
  • Oct 26, 2017 10:07pm Oct 26, 2017 10:07pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello foxtrader16 If i may, some thoughts on the EURNZD chart you kindly shared on. best wishes{image}{image}
Thanks a lot Akt!

I avoided that M1 zone you highlighted just because I thought it looked like price stayed there way too long and it looked busy.
And seeing that trend is still up I would deem this zone to be prone to a break through.

However, I am looking for a long entry from a LTF like D1 / H4 if I get the right R:R.
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  • #5,031
  • Oct 27, 2017 4:34am Oct 27, 2017 4:34am
Hello Akt, Yunvic and isaacpeh. Thank you very much for contributing my questions. It really gave me better understanding on this methodology.

Another thing brought to my attention is AKT's EURNZD Weekly charts in reply of foxtrader16. I made my annotation on my own to make sure my understanding.

What I am curious about is that grayed zone that looks like a demand zone. But it was ruled out by akt's chart and it would be really nice to get more explanation about that zone's invalidity.
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Thanks in advance.
Thiha
  • #5,032
  • Oct 27, 2017 7:42am Oct 27, 2017 7:42am
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt, Yunvic and isaacpeh. Thank you very much for contributing my questions. It really gave me better understanding on this methodology. Another thing brought to my attention is AKT's EURNZD Weekly charts in reply of foxtrader16. I made my annotation on my own to make sure my understanding. What I am curious about is that grayed zone that looks like a demand zone. But it was ruled out by akt's chart and it would be really nice to get more explanation about that zone's invalidity. {image} Thanks in advance. Thiha
Hello! I honestly don't know how to help you here. I guess Akt got his ways to draw his zones. I have that grey zone marked on my charts as well. We'll leave this for someone who knows the answers.
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  • #5,033
  • Oct 27, 2017 10:24am Oct 27, 2017 10:24am
Quoting isaacpeh
{quote} Hello! I honestly don't know how to help you here. I guess Akt got his ways to draw his zones. I have that grey zone marked on my charts as well. We'll leave this for someone who knows the answers.
Hello isaacpeh, Yes! I got that gray zone marked in my chart too. But the questions rises when I saw akt's chart implying that is not a DZ.
Anyway I thank you for your concern.
  • #5,034
  • Oct 27, 2017 12:09pm Oct 27, 2017 12:09pm
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt, Yunvic and isaacpeh. Thank you very much for contributing my questions. It really gave me better understanding on this methodology. Another thing brought to my attention is AKT's EURNZD Weekly charts in reply of foxtrader16. I made my annotation on my own to make sure my understanding. What I am curious about is that grayed zone that looks like a demand zone. But it was ruled out by akt's chart and it would be really nice to get more explanation about that zone's invalidity. {image} Thanks in advance. Thiha
AS per the rules i think if we cant decide a zone its better to consider it as CP i think that this one is valid Continuation pattern demand zone , because it removed the opposite SZ .Just my opinion !
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  • #5,035
  • Oct 27, 2017 5:26pm Oct 27, 2017 5:26pm
Quoting Eushev24
{quote} AS per the rules i think if we cant decide a zone its better to consider it as CP i think that this one is valid Continuation pattern demand zone , because it removed the opposite SZ .Just my opinion !
IMHO doesn't matter if its valid or not because that zone have a weak structure.
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  • #5,036
  • Oct 28, 2017 1:46am Oct 28, 2017 1:46am
Quoting thiha
Hello Akt, Yunvic and isaacpeh. Thank you very much for contributing my questions. It really gave me better understanding on this methodology. Another thing brought to my attention is AKT's EURNZD Weekly charts in reply of foxtrader16. I made my annotation on my own to make sure my understanding. What I am curious about is that grayed zone that looks like a demand zone. But it was ruled out by akt's chart and it would be really nice to get more explanation about that zone's invalidity. {image} Thanks in advance. Thiha
Hello thiha.

Allow me to clarify and shed some more light on this market that i hope helps you and our other colleagues here.

EURNZD.

best wishes
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  • #5,037
  • Oct 28, 2017 1:53am Oct 28, 2017 1:53am
Quoting NicNak
Nice to meet you too Atk, and thanks for the reply, Yes I should defiantly be more clear on the set up. so I have W/D/4hr/30mins So to me all 4 timeframes look like the are in a down trend. but weekly is in a demand zone which looks like it is gonna be removed, I’m just wondering if the 4hr/30minute zones are valid set forget. thanks hope this is more clear. (need to figure out how to put the reply quote in. ) {image}
Hello NicNak

Thank you very much for clarifying it for us.

My thoughts are thus, if i may:

1. when starting out, try to keep to the 3 charts. There are many moving parts with multiple timeframe analysis and it can easily get confusing or overdone. Simplicity in this case is absolutely necessary, The time distance between the 4hr and 30min makes it challenging to link those timeframes. Not impossible but not necessary.

2. I concur that all the timeframes you showed are in downtrend. However, as you rightly noticed, we were at weekly demand as of the time you shared the charts. That immediately suggests going short was a lower probability trade at the time. Looking for shorts at 30 and 60min levels down there would be a challenge. Looking for shorts higher up as shown on your 4hr charts would be preferable as they are higher probability

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #5,038
  • Oct 28, 2017 1:59am Oct 28, 2017 1:59am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello thiha. Allow me to clarify and shed some more light on this market that i hope helps you and our other colleagues here. EURNZD. best wishes{image}
Dear Akt,
Very good!!
  • #5,039
  • Oct 28, 2017 11:05am Oct 28, 2017 11:05am
Hi Guys, Im new here so welcome everyone and quick question, how U see my Demand Zones CHF/JPY H4 and M30, any thoughts?

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  • #5,040
  • Oct 28, 2017 12:45pm Oct 28, 2017 12:45pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello thiha. Allow me to clarify and shed some more light on this market that i hope helps you and our other colleagues here. EURNZD. best wishes{image}
Hello Akt, thanks for the good explanation.
I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
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