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  • #30,941
  • Oct 19, 2017 5:35am Oct 19, 2017 5:35am
https://www.tradingschools.org/reviews/tradeguider/

I'm not trolling the thread. I'm posting this for entertainment purposes only, I found it funny.

One of the guys running the VSA chat room, according to the reviewer, will write you a 30 second song for 5 dollars.
  • #30,942
  • Oct 19, 2017 7:54am Oct 19, 2017 7:54am
Hello guys hope all goes well I'll leave you with another October present, keep the thread alive

this has been to quiet lately.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1...E40WFVlRnduc3M

Stay safe guys.
  • #30,943
  • Oct 19, 2017 8:08am Oct 19, 2017 8:08am
supply is hitting gold right now
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  • #30,944
  • Oct 19, 2017 1:30pm Oct 19, 2017 1:30pm
Quoting albern
https://www.tradingschools.org/reviews/tradeguider/ I'm not trolling the thread. I'm posting this for entertainment purposes only, I found it funny. One of the guys running the VSA chat room, according to the reviewer, will write you a 30 second song for 5 dollars.

oh Btw no one ever said you need traderguider to trade VSA .... I personally don't use it I admit I paid a discounted price of 39$ ( I got curious and wanted to try it myself) for one month of their software and I personally told my bank to cancel and report any further payments to that subscription... As in my opinion I don't need to have something saying to me what I can see with my eyes, specially if it gives me one signal and 10 min later an opposite one.....

But that's just my opinion... And it's worth close to 0..

Stay safe.
  • #30,945
  • Oct 20, 2017 2:58am Oct 20, 2017 2:58am
Quoting zwara
{quote} oh Btw no one ever said you need traderguider to trade VSA .... I personally don't use it I admit I paid a discounted price of 39$ ( I got curious and wanted to try it myself) for one month of their software and I personally told my bank to cancel and report any further payments to that subscription... As in my opinion I don't need to have something saying to me what I can see with my eyes, specially if it gives me one signal and 10 min later an opposite one..... But that's just my opinion... And it's worth close to 0.. Stay safe.
I was also wondering has somebody tried their services. As during learning process they could help to grasp all the concepts. You have gotten really good price, as currently the cheapest package in their site is for 100$.
But overall i agree, that there are too many controversial signals, then better is to trade on our own clean charts.
The more you learn the more you earn
  • #30,946
  • Oct 20, 2017 4:32am Oct 20, 2017 4:32am
I laughed when I saw that testing


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  • #30,947
  • Oct 20, 2017 6:25am Oct 20, 2017 6:25am
Quoting freemind
{quote} I was also wondering has somebody tried their services. As during learning process they could help to grasp all the concepts. You have gotten really good price, as currently the cheapest package in their site is for 100$. But overall i agree, that there are too many controversial signals, then better is to trade on our own clean charts.
Their cheapest price is always 99$ but if you ask them to try they will give a code probably the same they give to me BRONZE60 or something like that that will give you 60% discount on 1st month. Always explore the ones that explore you... learn to negotiate, and never accept the 1st price given as final... remember , they will always give you the idea you need them to trade, but it's the opposite they NEED you to profit....
  • #30,948
  • Oct 20, 2017 6:26am Oct 20, 2017 6:26am
Quoting Vcv13
I laughed when I saw that testing {image}

Testing what ?
  • #30,949
  • Oct 21, 2017 12:49am Oct 21, 2017 12:49am
Quoting zwara
{quote} Testing what ?

supply
The loss was not bad luck. It was bad Analysis - D.Einhorn
  • #30,950
  • Oct 21, 2017 12:59am Oct 21, 2017 12:59am
elementary my dear watson

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  • #30,951
  • Oct 21, 2017 2:41am Oct 21, 2017 2:41am
Quoting Vcv13
elementary my dear watson {image}

I wont create a fussy about it, but and it's only my opinion, Smart money buys low and sells high, . But you have to do what works for you, like a very wise man said, humans have to give names to everything, testing, upthrust, shakeout, or whatever term you wanna call it, as long as you know what principle is behind it and it works for you then all good.

For me where you have written push thru supply It's actually a area where supply came in but it's all good.

Stay safe.
  • #30,952
  • Oct 21, 2017 3:45am Oct 21, 2017 3:45am
Quoting Vcv13
elementary my dear watson {image}
Isn't it weakness appear on an up bar? I am new here. Please forgive me if I intrude.
  • #30,953
  • Edited 5:36am Oct 21, 2017 4:46am | Edited 5:36am
Quoting ianynda
{quote} Isn't it weakness appear on an up bar? I am new here. Please forgive me if I intrude.

as clear as water well spotted.

That doesn't necessarily means the market will shoot down from there... but that is a sign supply is hitting the market in other words sellers are becoming interested in those levels ofc they will always try to sell at the best prices they can get. but from that area they just showed they are now interested in start selling activity, whether they will take it and drive it down or not that requires more confirmation, but the one thing they showed at that level is they are interested, go and watch that same level on a 1min chart, I must here emphasise again 1min 5 min 10 min 100min TF means nothing, price areas are what I look for, what you see on 5 min charts you will only see in a deeper level of detail on the 1min and even in more detail if we could go lower.
But in the 1min tf you can see the huge spike of volume happened on the top part of that 5 min candle exactly on the wick (rejection), Yes you may argue price continue to move up, but that's a common trick SM uses, they don't want you to see the obvious, they don't need you to sell with them, they WANT you to still believe on the long potential and buy all you can, so they can get better prices for their selling positions.

How can you spot them, well new high ground has to bring high volume means they are absorbing the buyers. means they are selling into the crowd.

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Well I'm not an expert but that's how I see it, who knows maybe I'm wrong that's why I am still here trying to learn ehehe,

Most likely the ones who cracked it and learned it properly already left this thread and forgot about us the plebes... Whatever.

Stay safe you all.

Zwara.
  • #30,954
  • Oct 21, 2017 5:47am Oct 21, 2017 5:47am
Quoting ianynda
{quote} Isn't it weakness appear on an up bar? I am new here. Please forgive me if I intrude.

not in the Wyckoff world, if you see a wide spread up bar and the close is near the high this could be climactic action but needs confirmation as the strong close still warns of higher prices.

the climactic action is confirmed if it triggers supply (supply overcoming demand).


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  • #30,955
  • Oct 21, 2017 6:09am Oct 21, 2017 6:09am
Quoting Vcv13
elementary my dear watson {image}

It's not strength coming into an up wave it's lack of weakness...

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Stay safe.


PS- I'm going on holidays so I hope this tread still lives when I return otherwise I might as well retire
Thanks to all that still post once in a while. It seems we are the only ones interested in this. whatever don't mind me might be frustration kicking in eheheh

Ciao Zwara.
  • #30,956
  • Oct 21, 2017 7:19am Oct 21, 2017 7:19am
Quoting Vcv13
{quote} not in the Wyckoff world, if you see a wide spread up bar and the close is near the high this could be climactic action but needs confirmation as the strong close still warns of higher prices. the climactic action is confirmed if it triggers supply (supply overcoming demand). {image}

I could go deeper inside that bar, and see exactly where volume came in, I am at work so I can't access the platform that allows me to go that far behind, but without even looking at it I can guaranty you that the 1min will have some other information more detailed, and careful with the wyckoof world eheheh because if you want to apply wyckoof theories in that example you are lacking a lot of phases there mate ...

but I am no one, so I wont start a argument, as long as it works for you, I'm happy

Stay safe.

PS - your 1st sign of weakness if the two bar reversal pattern, what you call climatic volume, second sign of weakness happens on the 3rd and 4th bar after what you call climatic volume showing complete lack of interest as prices go higher in other words lack of demand or in even another word a NO DEMAND signal, the 3rd sign of that weakness happens on the effort made to push prices to a new low area what you call supply (SOW) but's that's just me.

Cheers I rest my case here like I said as long as it works for you I'm happy mate.
  • #30,957
  • Oct 21, 2017 7:47am Oct 21, 2017 7:47am
Quoting zwara
{quote} PS - your 1st sign of weakness if the two bar reversal pattern, what you call climatic volume, second sign of weakness happens on the 3rd and 4th bar after what you call climatic volume showing complete lack of interest as prices go higher in other words lack of demand or in even another word a NO DEMAND signal, the 3rd sign of that weakness happens on the effort made to push prices to a new low area what you call supply (SOW) but's that's just me. Cheers I rest my case here like I said as long as it works for you I'm happy mate.

well, lets not be so casual in using the term Sign of Weakness

it's not about what's working for me, it about principles, weakness comes only when supply overcomes demand.

supply doesn't appear out of thin air, you need cause to build-up first, that lil trading range you see after the climactic action is the cause (distribution) & the supply bar (SoW) is the effect.
The loss was not bad luck. It was bad Analysis - D.Einhorn
  • #30,958
  • Edited 12:17pm Oct 21, 2017 10:00am | Edited 12:17pm
Quoting Vcv13
{quote} well, lets not be so casual in using the term Sign of Weakness it's not about what's working for me, it about principles, weakness comes only when supply overcomes demand. supply doesn't appear out of thin air, you need cause to build-up first, that lil trading range you see after the climactic action is the cause (distribution) & the supply bar (SoW) is the effect.

If you say so.
I don't use terms in my trading (I tend to use the same naming you guys give for you to understand me) because what you see in that 15min charts, you wont see it in the 1h if you apply terms.

Yes unbalance of supply and demand is what moves the price down and up, and that unbalance can be seen. But understand this price over time chart is something your broker creates so it can sell you the false idea that price moves can be calculated and anticipate over a period of time. that's why I look as deep as I can in terms of time scale, and I keep repeating myself, whatever you see in 1h, you have to see in 30 min and in 15min and in 5min and in 1min and so on you will see the same thing but just in more detailed information. if the information is contradictory in any of the TF then in my opinion it's not the right pair to trade, or not the best probable situation to trade.

I use a lot the trading terminology of area or trading zones, and from there I also use the concept of 6 Dimensions, and I draw my line in the sand to trace my hemispheres. well but it's confused explained like that and I'm not very good with words...

Stay safe.

PS - Let me make this point clear because sometimes I may be misunderstood you wouldn't be the 1st one eheheh, sometimes I may seem cynical and ironic in my speech but believe I mean nothing wrong. it's just the way I am .

Zwara.
  • #30,959
  • Oct 22, 2017 7:33am Oct 22, 2017 7:33am
Quoting zwara
{quote} If you say so. I don't use terms in my trading (I tend to use the same naming you guys give for you to understand me) because what you see in that 15min charts, you wont see it in the 1h if you apply terms. Yes unbalance of supply and demand is what moves the price down and up, and that unbalance can be seen. But understand this price over time chart is something your broker creates so it can sell you the false idea that price moves can be calculated and anticipate over a period of time. that's why I look as deep as I can in terms of time...
You are a great man.
Holy Grail - Patience and Acceptance
  • #30,960
  • Oct 22, 2017 8:26am Oct 22, 2017 8:26am
Quoting bluesoul
{quote} You are a great man.

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