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  • #1,321
  • Oct 20, 2017 4:12pm Oct 20, 2017 4:12pm
Quoting jamesT.
This week the 3 screen PIN trading was the whole week red with a big DD but today was also big reversal, but because of EURNZD and AUDNZD everything is still red. {image} {image} As already JustUncleL and fallleaf said, here seems something wrong with the 3 screen PIN, otherwise this PIN has already closed older positions. I think now that we still need an entry filter, so I tested my old fractal-template with %inc and this is the result of the last 2 days: {image} {image} On the todays GBPCHF chart you can see the perfect swing and fractal break...
Thank you for sharing your idea of using the old Fractal BO as a filtering agent. I think if Seller9 can resolve the issue with 3 Screen, many of the bigger DD will be reduced and I believe we may have had BE week, rather than a big DD week as you can see by my results last week.

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I disable GN because I have bad spread/slippage on that pair from my broker.
  • #1,322
  • Edited 6:19pm Oct 20, 2017 6:03pm | Edited 6:19pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Thank you for sharing your idea of using the old Fractal BO as a filtering agent. I think if Seller9 can resolve the issue with 3 Screen, many of the bigger DD will be reduced and I believe we may have had BE week, rather than a big DD week as you can see by my results last week. {image} I disable GN because I have bad spread/slippage on that pair from my broker.
You're right, if the exit of the 3 Screen PIN is correctly, we would have had green pips at the end of the week with this PIN.

But still, I would like to test the new Basket swing PIN v1 as a direction filter on single pairs with the Fractal PIN, as this also has great potential.
  • #1,323
  • Oct 20, 2017 6:23pm Oct 20, 2017 6:23pm
Quoting jamesT.
This week the 3 screen PIN trading was the whole week red with a big DD but today was also big reversal, but because of EURNZD and AUDNZD everything is still red. {image} {image} As already JustUncleL and fallleaf said, here seems something wrong with the 3 screen PIN, otherwise this PIN has already closed older positions. I think now that we still need an entry filter, so I tested my old fractal-template with %inc and this is the result of the last 2 days: {image} {image} On the todays GBPCHF chart you can see the perfect swing and fractal break...
hi JamesT, thank you for sharing of this comment and idea, i guess it would be VERY Helpful to everyone incl Seller9 if this exit problem can be fixed, as making a perfect trading EA is always his goal.

3 Screen is the one which is very close to this goal !!!

Speaking with your test on the combination of Swing and Fractal, I did it as well while the big DD killed my eyes. I don't have any luck like yours as it did not open any trades. Can I assume that all of the settings on Swing and Fractal are default?

thanks and have a nice weekend!
  • #1,324
  • Oct 20, 2017 7:18pm Oct 20, 2017 7:18pm
Quoting fallenleaf
{quote} hi JamesT, thank you for sharing of this comment and idea, i guess it would be VERY Helpful to everyone incl Seller9 if this exit problem can be fixed, as making a perfect trading EA is always his goal. 3 Screen is the one which is very close to this goal !!! Speaking with your test on the combination of Swing and Fractal, I did it as well while the big DD killed my eyes. I don't have any luck like yours as it did not open any trades. Can I assume that all of the settings on Swing and Fractal are default? thanks and have a nice weekend!
Hi fallenleaf, here you find my settings on Swing and Fractal.

Have also a nice weekend
  • #1,325
  • Oct 20, 2017 7:21pm Oct 20, 2017 7:21pm
Quoting jamesT.
{quote} Hi fallenleaf, here you find my settings on Swing and Fractal. Have also a nice weekend
Thank you buddy!
  • #1,326
  • Oct 20, 2017 7:34pm Oct 20, 2017 7:34pm
Quoting jamesT.
This week the 3 screen PIN trading was the whole week red with a big DD but today was also big reversal, but because of EURNZD and AUDNZD everything is still red. {image} {image} As already JustUncleL and fallleaf said, here seems something wrong with the 3 screen PIN, otherwise this PIN has already closed older positions. I think now that we still need an entry filter, so I tested my old fractal-template with %inc and this is the result of the last 2 days: {image} {image} On the todays GBPCHF chart you can see the perfect swing and fractal break...
Maybe should rename the attached PIN to Casino_Swing_OLD_PIN.ex4 so as not to get confused with Seller9's new PIN for baskets of the same name.
  • #1,327
  • Oct 20, 2017 7:52pm Oct 20, 2017 7:52pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Maybe should rename the attached PIN to Casino_Swing_OLD_PIN.ex4 so as not to get confused with Seller9's new PIN for baskets of the same name.
The attached PIN is the new PIN for baskets!
  • #1,328
  • Oct 20, 2017 8:12pm Oct 20, 2017 8:12pm
Quoting jamesT.
{quote} The attached PIN is the new PIN for baskets!
Sorry my mistake, just you were showing both PINs on the chart, I assumed it was the old one. Just to be clear, which Swing PIN did you use in the 2-day test?
  • #1,329
  • Oct 20, 2017 9:21pm Oct 20, 2017 9:21pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Sorry my mistake, just you were showing both PINs on the chart, I assumed it was the old one. Just to be clear, which Swing PIN did you use in the 2-day test?
JustUncleL, i think JamesT uploaded the new one, i attached it and it is the new one.
  • #1,330
  • Oct 20, 2017 9:32pm Oct 20, 2017 9:32pm
Quoting jamesT.
{quote} Hi fallenleaf, here you find my settings on Swing and Fractal. Have also a nice weekend
hi JamesT,

i have applied both of them and they are showed like this which is quite different from yours. I see in Fractal setting, you have all MA value setup to 1, but your picture didn't show any MAs out there. Can you please advise why is that and what the intention you'd like to do that?

thanks
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  • #1,331
  • Oct 21, 2017 12:04am Oct 21, 2017 12:04am
Quoting fallenleaf
{quote} hi JamesT, i have applied both of them and they are showed like this which is quite different from yours. I see in Fractal setting, you have all MA value setup to 1, but your picture didn't show any MAs out there. Can you please advise why is that and what the intention you'd like to do that? thanks {image}
If you disabled MA Filtering as per JamesT template, then the MAs have no effect anyway. You can disable the drawing by changing the "red" colour line to "none".
  • #1,332
  • Oct 21, 2017 12:13am Oct 21, 2017 12:13am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} If you disabled MA Filtering as per JamesT template, then the MAs have no effect anyway. You can disable the drawing by changing the "red" colour line to "none".
Thank you JustUncleL, I did it, let's see if it could bring me back some Green pips next week.
  • #1,333
  • Edited 1:37am Oct 21, 2017 1:15am | Edited 1:37am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Sorry my mistake, just you were showing both PINs on the chart, I assumed it was the old one. Just to be clear, which Swing PIN did you use in the 2-day test?
I used the old one only as exit because of the the entry signal disapear 1 candle after the trigger-break, so I can't this use together with the fractal-break PIN otherwise I would receive very few entry signals that's the reason for, why i prefer the new Basket swing PIN v1 as a direction filter on single pairs.

With %inc as direction filter I get some signals very late and the swing is sometimes near the end.
  • #1,334
  • Oct 21, 2017 1:34am Oct 21, 2017 1:34am
Quoting fallenleaf
{quote} Thank you JustUncleL, I did it, let's see if it could bring me back some Green pips next week.
If you want to test this next week try it with candle charts and renko charts, because of in the sideways phases with candle charts too many fractals appear, which has the consequence that also false signals appear in the casino ea.
  • #1,335
  • Oct 21, 2017 11:31am Oct 21, 2017 11:31am
Quoting jamesT.
{quote} If you want to test this next week try it with candle charts and renko charts, because of in the sideways phases with candle charts too many fractals appear, which has the consequence that also false signals appear in the casino ea.
here is my To_Do list for next week:

 

  1. 3 Screen Renko + Swing;
  2. Fractal + Swing;
  3. Guppy + Swing

the only thing i am concern is the nature of Swing pin, Repaint.

  • #1,336
  • Oct 21, 2017 4:06pm Oct 21, 2017 4:06pm
Quoting fallenleaf
{quote} here is my To_Do list for next week: 3 Screen Renko + Swing; Fractal + Swing; Guppy + Swing the only thing i am concern is the nature of Swing pin, Repaint.
You will find many of the Old and New PINs repaint (including 3 Screen), the aim is to get the right combinations of filters so that the repainting works with the filters to create the ultimate signal.
  • #1,337
  • Oct 21, 2017 4:19pm Oct 21, 2017 4:19pm
Quoting jamesT.
{quote} I used the old one only as exit because of the the entry signal disapear 1 candle after the trigger-break, so I can't this use together with the fractal-break PIN otherwise I would receive very few entry signals that's the reason for, why i prefer the new Basket swing PIN v1 as a direction filter on single pairs. With %inc as direction filter I get some signals very late and the swing is sometimes near the end.
Doesn't the new swing PIN also clear signal after one candle? Or are you relying on the fact that it gives more signals than the old one?
  • #1,338
  • Oct 21, 2017 4:51pm Oct 21, 2017 4:51pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Doesn't the new swing PIN also clear signal after one candle? Or are you relying on the fact that it gives more signals than the old one?
I have not tested the new swing PIN because of market was closed but seller9 showed in his video that the new swing PIN indicator also gives a clear signal after one candle. I will test this indicator in the next week with basket trading.
  • #1,339
  • Oct 21, 2017 5:05pm Oct 21, 2017 5:05pm
Quoting jamesT.
{quote} I have not tested the new swing PIN because of market was closed but seller9 showed in his video that the new swing PIN indicator also gives a clear signal after one candle. I will test this indicator in the next week with basket trading.
Yes from my previous testing I believe the signal stays on for the one candle, unless price reverses forcing a re-paint, same way 3 Screen does it. I will conducting tests on the combinations next week also. In the meantime, hopefully Seller9 will be able to resolve the exit issue with 3 Screen.
  • #1,340
  • Oct 21, 2017 5:11pm Oct 21, 2017 5:11pm
This is a perfect example from last week for a successful trade with the 3 screen PIN and "Add To Trade".

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