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  • #5,281
  • Sep 12, 2017 11:36pm Sep 12, 2017 11:36pm
Quoting fxloser
{quote} there 87 SAM seiden videos and i didnt watch even more than 5 ..becoz of bad voice sound .. and ascent ..( poor quality of videos ) that is only painful ..when u cannot understand whats is he saying then i found this person and read all the articles http://www.forexmentoronline.com/a-f...eiden-traders/
Hi fxloser,
Just check this sample .....

USDJPY H4 at Supply Area
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USDJPY M30 Entry point with tighten SL ...
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Cheers
  • #5,282
  • Edited 3:12am Sep 13, 2017 3:01am | Edited 3:12am
Quoting mrhb30jr
{quote} Hi fxloser, Just check this sample ..... USDJPY H4 at Supply Area {image} USDJPY M30 Entry point with tighten SL ... {image} Cheers
thankx man .. but why u made those H4 demand supply levels ?i meant at which bases u thought that these can be good H4 supply demand zones ?
  • #5,283
  • Sep 13, 2017 3:02am Sep 13, 2017 3:02am
Quoting C-12
You then have to understand that S/D knowledge is just foundation learning material, same for candlesticks (otherwise known as PA). The real hard work is the years of study and screentime in realtime markets.

sorry c 12 my english is not good i cannot understand videos of sam Seiden i tried hard .. but failed ..so i cannot learn this method ?
  • #5,284
  • Sep 13, 2017 3:08am Sep 13, 2017 3:08am
my next question is

how we should know when price should come back to a supply/demand zone ?
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  • #5,285
  • Sep 13, 2017 3:15am Sep 13, 2017 3:15am
And the story continues.....
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  • #5,286
  • Sep 13, 2017 5:57am Sep 13, 2017 5:57am
Quoting fxloser
{quote} sorry c 12 my english is not good i cannot understand videos of sam Seiden i tried hard .. but failed ..so i cannot learn this method ?
Hi fxloser. My English is not good too and it's hard to understand for me from just reading the thread. so I always draw a line on my chart when someone upload their chart and trade. This helps me a lot.

example
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post10173159
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  • #5,287
  • Sep 13, 2017 7:17am Sep 13, 2017 7:17am
Quoting fxloser
my next question is how we should know when price should come back to a supply/demand zone ? {image}
I like this zone. it's well placed on the HTF (although not technically fresh on M5/M15) we know this is how these levels form. RR is good.

How about placing a line alert just ahead of this one?
  • #5,288
  • Sep 13, 2017 10:02am Sep 13, 2017 10:02am
Quoting C-12
{quote} I like this zone. it's well placed on the HTF (although not technically fresh on M5/M15) we know this is how these levels form. RR is good. How about placing a line alert just ahead of this one?
Can you provide some tips about how you go about finding if the level is "fresh" or not ?
  • #5,289
  • Sep 13, 2017 1:26pm Sep 13, 2017 1:26pm
Quoting tradegest
{quote} Can you provide some tips about how you go about finding if the level is "fresh" or not ?
Well I don't trade levels myself in the conventional sense but I sure pay attention to them.

Fresh zones are basic high quality untested zones that line up with the higher timeframe zones and PA.

Easier said than done right?

Best way I learned is by drawing boxes on a bare price chart and notice how price reacts at each test (specifically the first).
  • #5,290
  • Sep 13, 2017 1:27pm Sep 13, 2017 1:27pm
I used to draw boxes exactly like this on every pair and every timeframe until it sunk in to my dense skull.

Eventually you'll see the ones that don't work very well and learn to filter them out.

Then you'll see how different timeframe levels interact with each other.

It takes practice...

When I see a chart like this, sometimes I think it might be just as well to stick limit orders on these zones and take 2:1 RR on each.

Play around with it and see what works for you.
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  • #5,291
  • Sep 14, 2017 1:38am Sep 14, 2017 1:38am
i have read all these book in last 24 hours .. but still confused about basic rules of trade entry and how to find best zones
and 3-4 more but didnt get how to enter in trade when price re test the zone ? and how to find the best fres zones ? when i try to find a zone its almost look like already tested ..

i have read this PAZ small book
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i have read this compression small book
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i have read this supply demand book
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i have read this another supply demand book
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i have read this FTR small book
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i have read this DS book
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and 3-4 more but didnt get how to enter in trade when price re test the zone ? and how to find the best fres zones ? when i try to find a zone its almost look like already tested ..
  • #5,292
  • Sep 14, 2017 1:41am Sep 14, 2017 1:41am
i want to trade at maximum 1 mint or 5 mint chart ...

c12 plz look at picture how to decide zone is fresh or not ? and does it matter when market come back to these zones ?(time)

how much left i have to look ? on the current chart , or need to scroll back to see more price ? or current chart and higher TF current chart ?
do u use engulfing candlestick and pin bar for entry ? and re test entry ? every time ?

do u use FTR , RTM , PAZ and CP in your trading or not ?
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  • #5,293
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:14am Sep 14, 2017 2:14am
C12 ...plz look at below picture , all questions are written on the picture chart
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  • #5,294
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:29am Sep 14, 2017 2:29am
GBPUSD H4 my most most most important question .. i have mentioned every thing in chart plz read the chart text thankx
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  • #5,295
  • Sep 14, 2017 4:35am Sep 14, 2017 4:35am
nice swing long on WTI...saw a H4 demand embedded in D1.....
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cut your losses short and let your profit run
  • #5,296
  • Edited 1:05pm Sep 14, 2017 12:40pm | Edited 1:05pm
Quoting fxloser
ido u use FTR , RTM , PAZ and CP in your trading or not ?
Not sure what all this is but this is what I do when I get time to trade.

I'm very rarely fixated with a single lower TF zone but they are great if you can pick them... There was a v nice one on EU today (H1/M30 if you can spot it)

Analysis

1) Higher timeframe zones and PA (Weekly, Daily, H4)
2) Lower timeframe zones and PA (H1, M30, M15, M5)
3) Additional same analysis on USDX.

Entries

1) Zones (with SL behind zone)
2) Zones with PA (usually SL behind zone)
3) Engulfing PA in the direction of higher timeframe trend. (SL behind engulfing PA)
4) Engulfing PA in direction (without an inital SL but based on developing PA) <-- good self discipline needed.
  • #5,297
  • Sep 14, 2017 12:57pm Sep 14, 2017 12:57pm
Quoting C-12
I used to draw boxes exactly like this on every pair and every timeframe until it sunk in to my dense skull. Eventually you'll see the ones that don't work very well and learn to filter them out. Then you'll see how different timeframe levels interact with each other. It takes practice... When I see a chart like this, sometimes I think it might be just as well to stick limit orders on these zones and take 2:1 RR on each. Play around with it and see what works for you. {image}
Check the chart fxloser on NU

Did you see the untested H1 zone marked on chart?
  • #5,298
  • Sep 15, 2017 6:25am Sep 15, 2017 6:25am
Quoting C-12
{quote} Not sure what all this is but this is what I do when I get time to trade. I'm very rarely fixated with a single lower TF zone but they are great if you can pick them... There was a v nice one on EU today (H1/M30 if you can spot it) Analysis 1) Higher timeframe zones and PA (Weekly, Daily, H4) 2) Lower timeframe zones and PA (H1, M30, M15, M5) 3) Additional same analysis on USDX. Entries 1) Zones (with SL behind zone) 2) Zones with PA (usually SL behind zone) 3) Engulfing PA in the direction of higher timeframe trend. (SL behind engulfing...
Very good explanation C-12

Now euro she is starting rally up ......

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  • #5,299
  • Sep 15, 2017 6:57am Sep 15, 2017 6:57am
Quoting mrhb30jr
{quote} Very good explanation C-12 Now euro she is starting rally up ...... {image}
In this one as well..

Also NU, not traded this pair for a while but a good example of zone + PA trade here.
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  • #5,300
  • Sep 15, 2017 11:34am Sep 15, 2017 11:34am
Quoting fxloser
my next question is how we should know when price should come back to a supply/demand zone ? {image}
Did you take this trade?

Looks like your zone just served up 170 pips..

Although entry would have been better on H1/M30 rather than M15. Barely touched it.
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