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  • #41
  • Sep 13, 2017 10:06am Sep 13, 2017 10:06am
Quoting jdieieh
{quote} I allowed myself to look closer at your TE and extract some data. Focusing on annual return: 1 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2015 = total return +0.2%, barely positive, in fact negative considering inflation 1 Jan 2016 - 31 Dec 2016 = total return -18.7.%, highly negative 1 Jan 2017 - up to now = total return +3.4.%, still counting, could go either way Focusing on monthly return in 2017 January = -3.6% February = -0.5% March = -0.3% April = +6.6% May = -1.5% June = +2.8% July = +0.1% August = +1.0% Question no 1: Do you think your method can be considered...
This is a demoaccount that I don't closely monitor. What's a secure way to show you a live account? You will either become my mentor or I wil become yours. How about that?
Mecrandie
  • #42
  • Sep 13, 2017 10:13am Sep 13, 2017 10:13am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} This is a demoaccount that I don't closely monitor. What's a secure way to show you a live account? You will either become my mentor or I wil become yours. How about that?
You claim in the title that psar is reliable, which is not - at least not the way you try to use.

You claim to have great results, which you dont.

And you show your results on demo, which "you dont monitor" anyway.

I dont need mentoring. I am just asking questions, thats all
  • #43
  • Sep 13, 2017 11:41am Sep 13, 2017 11:41am
Quoting jdieieh
{quote} You claim in the title that psar is reliable, which is not - at least not the way you try to use. You claim to have great results, which you dont. And you show your results on demo, which "you dont monitor" anyway. I dont need mentoring. I am just asking questions, thats all
maybe he needs a mentor,
and it was a nice semi-indirect way to ask you to take him as student?
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #44
  • Sep 13, 2017 11:49am Sep 13, 2017 11:49am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} maybe he needs a mentor, and it was a nice semi-indirect way to ask you to take him as student?
And so I already pointed into direction how to test reliability of psar
  • #45
  • Edited Sep 14, 2017 12:50am Sep 13, 2017 11:55pm | Edited Sep 14, 2017 12:50am
Quoting jdieieh
{quote} You claim in the title that psar is reliable, which is not - at least not the way you try to use. You claim to have great results, which you dont. And you show your results on demo, which "you dont monitor" anyway. I dont need mentoring. I am just asking questions, thats all
Below is the link to my FFE 2017 year to date returns chart. It shows steady growth. You have no basis for writing off my portfolio or trading style.

https://www.forexfactory.com/mecrandie#acct.0q5-tab.graph-xaxis.trades-yaxis.return-type_primary.line
Mecrandie
  • #46
  • Sep 14, 2017 1:09am Sep 14, 2017 1:09am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} Below is the link to my FFE 2017 year to date returns chart. It shows steady growth. You have no basis for writing off my portfolio or trading style. https://www.forexfactory.com/mecrandie#acct.0q5-tab.graph-xaxis.trades-yaxis.return-type_primary.line
Off course I have right to ask questions, it is a public forum. Based on your current, open TE run for last 2 years, you make -55% loss for the life of TE. Also I showed you did not have 3 decent winning months in a row. Everyone can open TE and see that. I do not count profit of 0.1% as decent, in fact this is loss due to inflation. And so far this year, being 3/4 into, you made 3% profit (if you can keep that at all). You claim psar being reliable, which is not.

Focusing on annual return:
1 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2015 = total return +0.2%, barely positive, in fact negative considering inflation
1 Jan 2016 - 31 Dec 2016 = total return -18.7.%, highly negative
1 Jan 2017 - up to now = total return +3.4.%, still counting, could go either way

Focusing on monthly return in 2017
January = -3.6%
February = -0.5%
March = -0.3%
April = +6.6%
May = -1.5%
June = +2.8%
July = +0.1%
August = +1.0%

Your "steady" growth, as you claim, refers to last 20 trades, out for +3000. Steady, or luck? 20 odd trades does not prove anything, zero, nada. Completly irrelevant.

Finally I asked you 2 crucial questions, for YOUR benefit:

Question no 1: Do you think your method can be considered reliable? It does not matter here if we are talking scalping, swing or long term speculating.

Question no. 2: Do you think you have enough data to make any conclusion for long term speculating? Long term as positions open for months if not years.

You never bothered to answer. Simple questions. So I have Question no. 3: are you looking for "help" or perhaps something else?

I does not seems to me you came here to learn or discuss. And if not, then why this all tread is here?
  • #47
  • Edited 1:57am Sep 14, 2017 1:39am | Edited 1:57am
Quoting jdieieh
{quote} Off course I have right to ask questions, it is a public forum. Based on your current, open TE run for last 2 years, you make -55% loss for the life of TE. Also I showed you did not have 3 decent winning months in a row. Everyone can open TE and see that. I do not count profit of 0.1% as decent, in fact this is loss due to inflation. And so far this year, being 3/4 into, you made 3% profit (if you can keep that at all). You claim psar being reliable, which is not. Focusing on annual return: 1 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2015 = total return +0.2%,...
I am here to show what I am doing and hear what folks like you have to say. Show your own FFE data to validate your veiled claim of expertise. The ultimate goal in trading or investment is to grow your equity. The FFE equity chart linked linked below shows that I have been growing my equity since January when I switched to my current investment style. If you don't like it, you just mind your own business.

https://www.forexfactory.com/mecrand...secondary.line
Mecrandie
  • #48
  • Sep 14, 2017 1:58am Sep 14, 2017 1:58am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} I am here to show what I am doing and hear what folks like you have to say. Show your own FFE data to validate your veiled claim of expertise. The ultimate goal in trading or investment is to grow your equity. The FFE chart linked linked below shows I am doing that with my current investment style. If you don't like it, you just mind your own business. https://www.forexfactory.com/mecrand...secondary.line
Attacking back is not a good strategy here. I never volunteered nor committed to show any of my money methods or business and I do not have obligation to do so. On the other hand YOU DID open your "mysterious method" to critique and made some bold, but unsubstantiated claims.

So again, I asked a question: do you believe your method is reliable? Thirds time and no still no answer from you.

Answer is this: it is not winning method. It generates huge losses and your last 20 winning trades are only 0.66% of all trades you did. Those are insignificant, most likely pure luck.

Also, I never claimed I am an expert in anything. Again, I just looked at your numbers, looked at your claims and asked obvious questions, since numbers clearly contradict your claims. Anybody can see by them self and ask the same questions.

I do actually mind to post here. Because at this point, judging by your behavior I think you are just a scammer, looking for people to pay you for your "reliable" psar method, rather than discuss, conclude and learn.

BTW, you are not investor. You are, at best (loosing) long term speculator. You dont build anything nor create anything nor contribute to the society by speculating on money value. It is speculation, money changing activity, just on slightly different time frame.
  • #49
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:08am Sep 14, 2017 2:08am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} I when I switched to my current investment style.
Here is, for your benefit, definition of 'investment", by old school Britannica

https://www.britannica.com/topic/investment

"From the standpoint of an individual, two types of investment may be distinguished: investment in the means of production and purely financial investment. Although at the individual level both types may provide a monetary return to the investor, from the standpoint of the entire economy, purely financial investments appear only as title transfers and do not constitute an addition to productive capacity."
  • #50
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:20am Sep 14, 2017 2:20am
try using SAR 0.015-0.005-0.2
  • #51
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:22am Sep 14, 2017 2:22am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} I am here to show what I am doing and hear what folks like you have to say. Show your own FFE data to validate your veiled claim of expertise. The ultimate goal in trading or investment is to grow your equity. The FFE equity chart linked linked below shows that I have been growing my equity since January when I switched to my current investment style. If you don't like it, you just mind your own business. https://www.forexfactory.com/mecrand...secondary.line...

This year you made money between May 14th and July 16th, the first five months of the year were a pretty large draw down and since July 16th you have been going along at even.

I attached here my equity chart for your interest, FF does not support my broker accounts in FFE.
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I live entirely from the growth of my personal trading account
  • #52
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:37am Sep 14, 2017 2:37am
Quoting jdieieh
{quote} Attacking back is not a good strategy here. I never volunteered nor committed to show any of my money methods or business and I do not have obligation to do so. On the other hand YOU DID open your "mysterious method" to critique and made some bold, but unsubstantiated claims. So again, I asked a question: do you believe your method is reliable? Thirds time and no still no answer from you. Answer is this: it is not winning method. It generates huge losses and your last 20 winning trades are only 0.66% of all trades you did. Those are insignificant,...
Any capital you put out in expectation of gain or interest after at least one or more years is called an investment. The person who puts out the money is called an investor. If the investor directly monitors his/her investment he/she becomes a managing investor and draws taxable income from the profits generated. If the investment grows very big he/she employs people to help with the monitoring. If a financial expert is managing the investment a fee is paid as part of investment cost.

Traders put out their capitals for less than a year and take their profits as soon as they make them. They reenter the market as often as they want and pay a lot in trading cost, commissions and taxes. So you can see why I am an investor. My stats show 99% market presence. I shrink my lots during adverse conditions and expand them during favorable conditions. My reputation in this forum has remained high ever since I joined over a year ago. You are the one who sounds dubious.
Mecrandie
  • #53
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:49am Sep 14, 2017 2:49am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} Any capital you put out in expectation of some gain or interest after abinvestment.or more is called an investment. The person who puts out the money is called an investor.
You can read English, right? Do you think your are more knowledgeable than authors of Britannica? They don't agree with you.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/investment

"From the standpoint of an individual, two types of investment may be distinguished: investment in the means of production and purely financial investment. Although at the individual level both types may provide a monetary return to the investor, from the standpoint of the entire economy, purely financial investments appear only as title transfers and do not constitute an addition to productive capacity."

Since when definition of investment is defined by time frame, not productive output? I will tell, since Goldman Sachs thiefs took over the worlds.

Man, what is wrong with you? You claim to have reliable method, which your dont. You claim to have steady long term returns, which you dont. And you claim you are investor, which you are not.

Dont live in a lie for your own sake!!! Man!!!
  • #54
  • Sep 14, 2017 2:54am Sep 14, 2017 2:54am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} This year you made money between May 14th and July 16th, the first five months of the year were a pretty large draw down and since July 16th you have been going along at even. I attached here my equity chart for your interest {image}
16 hours ago, bully Guybaker unsubscribes this thread . Now , he is back just to publish his " amazing " results and brag . Just to say, " Mecrandie , I'm better than you ." Pathetic...
Mecrandie , you are a good trader , you have nothing to learn from this pseudo-professor...

PS : where are the evidences that his results are real ? It's just a PDF , anyone can do it in 5 minutes.
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  • #55
  • Sep 14, 2017 3:01am Sep 14, 2017 3:01am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} 16 hours ago, bully Guybaker unsubscribes this thread . Now , he is back just to publish his " amazing " results and brag . Just to say, " Mecrandie , I'm better than you ." Pathetic... Mecrandie , you are a good trader , you have nothing to learn from this pseudo-professor... PS : where are the evidences that his results are real ? It's just a PDF , anyone can do it in 5 minutes. {image}
RedOk,
maybe the pdf isnt real, but that isnt the major point here...

macrandie's TE is real ( as in visible demo!).
and that demo is showing everything but real great trading.
can like or dislike the fact, can argue about what investment or trading is,
the truth is that equity is down. that says all you need to know.
trading is one of the few things can be objectively measured, and be done quick: profit or lack of it.
this case there is losses, lower equity.
even measured from this January, there is little gains, on the bigger picture there is lots of losses.

Q: is that what great trading looks like?
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #56
  • Sep 14, 2017 3:04am Sep 14, 2017 3:04am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} This year you made money between May 14th and July 16th, the first five months of the year were a pretty large draw down and since July 16th you have been going along at even. I attached here my equity chart for your interest, FF does not support my broker accounts in FFE. {image}
Your equity chart is definitely way better than mine. But mine might look like that someday if I maintain my current tempo with my current style of investment.
Mecrandie
  • #57
  • Sep 14, 2017 3:11am Sep 14, 2017 3:11am
I use the psar if used correctly it definitely gives you a statistical edge. the psar alone is useless.
  • #58
  • Sep 14, 2017 3:29am Sep 14, 2017 3:29am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} RedOk, maybe the pdf isnt real, but that isnt the major point here... macrandie's TE is real ( as in visible demo!). and that demo is showing everything but real great trading. can like or dislike the fact, can argue about what investment or trading is, the truth is that equity is down. that says all you need to know. trading is one of the few things can be objectively measured, and be done quick: profit or lack of it. this case there is losses, lower equity. even measured from this January, there is little gains, on the bigger picture there...
This is of course not a good example of great trading. If you look back at 2015 when I opened this demo account and monitored it closely, the chart looked good. But I abandoned it for a while until I joined Forest Factory and tried to set up my FF eexplorer. Only OANDA app was acceptable for the setup. So I carried along the bad stats from when I abandoned the account. That's why I focus on my performance in the last 12 - 18 months. I have played with many different indicators and created threads on them. If I think my present PSAR experiment is not working I will try another combination and move on. Only a fool will keep using a tool that makes him/her lose money in the market..
Mecrandie
  • #59
  • Sep 14, 2017 3:54am Sep 14, 2017 3:54am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} Your equity chart is definitely way better than mine. But mine might look like that someday if I maintain my current tempo with my current style of investment.

If I might be so bold, and I do not direct this comment at you specifically. It seems to me that in life in general and certainly in trading, that the ability to truly look at ourselves objectively, a long hard honest look in the mirror as it were is a very rare trait. From your comments I can see that you have at least the potential of such detailed self reflection.
I live entirely from the growth of my personal trading account
  • #60
  • Sep 14, 2017 3:56am Sep 14, 2017 3:56am
Quoting mecrandie
{quote} This is of course not a good example of great trading. If you look back at 2015 when I opened this demo account and monitored it closely, the chart looked good. But I abandoned it for a while until I joined Forest Factory and tried to set up my FF eexplorer. Only OANDA app was acceptable for the setup. So I carried along the bad stats from when I abandoned the account. That's why I focus on my performance in the last 12 - 18 months. I have played with many different indicators and created threads on them. If I think my present PSAR experiment...
to make things then more into showing your current effort, a hint: TE lets you to set a custom start date, where not whole account history included.
set January 2017, if that you feel is your current approach's best reflection.
there is always, always another trade!!
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