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  • #5,261
  • Sep 11, 2017 2:16pm Sep 11, 2017 2:16pm
Quoting C-12
EU, not much excitement but some early week pips. {image}
Hey C
looks like on that second short you took about 30 pips of heat. Am I reading the chart correctly? Where was the initial stop for that trade? Was it the 1.2041 area zone?
  • #5,262
  • Sep 11, 2017 2:22pm Sep 11, 2017 2:22pm
Quoting jack411
{quote} Hey C looks like on that second short you took about 30 pips of heat. Am I reading the chart correctly? Where was the initial stop for that trade? Was it the 1.2041 area zone?
Hey Jack, no initial stop on this one.

I knew the first entry was a bit of a dud, so I was watching for a H4 close to see what happened.

If it produced a solid H4 bull engulf then I'd have gotten out and waited until things were clearer.

In the end price closed the gap and then produced a bear engulf (off H1 supply) so added a couple more.

I'm wondering if this top might be more meaningful than initially looked (with GU also off D1 supply).
  • #5,263
  • Sep 11, 2017 2:26pm Sep 11, 2017 2:26pm
Clearer on these charts.
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  • #5,264
  • Sep 12, 2017 6:25am Sep 12, 2017 6:25am
Today Trade Long GU M30 ...

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  • #5,265
  • Sep 12, 2017 6:43am Sep 12, 2017 6:43am
Quoting mrhb30jr
Today Trade Long GU M30 ... {image}
Good entry, exit?
  • #5,266
  • Sep 12, 2017 7:18am Sep 12, 2017 7:18am
Quoting C-12
{quote} Good entry, exit?
GU still hold one PO Long free run now nice long on AUD too ...M30 Ema 200 ..

Here is the H4 and M30 Chart

Nice Demand H4 with pin bar
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and M30 Ema 200
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cheers
  • #5,267
  • Edited 12:16pm Sep 12, 2017 11:43am | Edited 12:16pm
c-12 sir i tried alot but failed to understand ..how to mark that is supply or demand zone ? ..correction candles or reverals candles made after every straight 4-5 candles
so by that we can make more than 100 supply and demand zone at a chart ? and which one is strong and good how to know ?

i tried some and tried to trade with them . but all failed ...how to know ? market must should reverse from a zone ? how to confirm it ?

how to know that a supply /demand zone should be absorbed or not at re test ?
  • #5,268
  • Edited 12:00pm Sep 12, 2017 11:48am | Edited 12:00pm
plz explain this trade setup ?
plz explain why u think sell is good ?
why enter at those levels
why not mark all bases as demand supply?
why exit ?
is it compulsory to check higher TF ,s ? why not only trade with current Tf ? why must need to check higher TF ?
is it correct pin bad and engulfing candlestick patterns are used to draw DS zones ? and also these 2 candle stick patterns are used to enter when price touch DS zones ?
but many time u dont use these patterns why ?
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  • #5,269
  • Sep 12, 2017 11:53am Sep 12, 2017 11:53am
Quoting fxloser
c-12 sir i tried alot but failed to understand ..how to mark that is supply or demand zone ? ..correction candles or reverals candles made after every straight 4-5 candles so by that we can make more than 100 supply and demand zone at a chart ? and which one is strong and good how to know ? i tried some and tried to trade with them . but all failed ...how to know ? market must should reverse from a zone ? how to confirm it ?
Hi fxloser ...

1. Try D1 or H4 supply area and Demand Area ....
2. look at lower TF H1 or M30 with H4 or D1 S/D
3. Waiting the signal, price action, engulfing candle or pin bar candle at Supply area D1 or H4 / Demand Area D1 or H4
4. Entry after signal candle price action ....
5. remember, TLS = Trend, Level and Signal ...
  • #5,270
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:05pm Sep 12, 2017 12:05pm
Quoting fxloser
plz explain this trade setup ? plz explain why u think sell is good ? why enter at those levels why not mark all bases as demand supply? why exit ? is it compulsory to check higher TF ,s ? why not only trade with current Tf ? why must need to check higher TF ? is it correct pin bad and engulfing candlestick patterns are used to draw DS zones ? and also these 2 candle stick patterns are used to enter when price touch DS zones ? but many time u dont use these patterns why ? {image}
Hi Fxloser,

see the below my entry set up today EU ....
may be could help you, i open order after testing candle with the tighten SL on M30 Time frame, and S/D from H4 ...

H4 TF
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M30 TF
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Hi C12 please correction if i'm wrong ...thxs

Cheers,
  • #5,271
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:14pm Sep 12, 2017 12:14pm
thankx u man ..
my question is suppose i have found demand zone in h4 and daily ..then i have to go lower TF like ( 15 mint ) . and need to find trade in the area of h4 demand zone to buy ?

2nd what is your M30 TF is saying according to price action ? a Doji ? and then ?what means of next candles ? and where to enter ? after bullish candle close or after bearish candle close ?
  • #5,272
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:18pm Sep 12, 2017 12:18pm
Quoting fxloser
thankx u man .. my question is suppose i have found demand zone in h4 and daily ..then i have to go lower TF like ( 15 mint ) . and need to find trade in the area of h4 demand zone to buy ?
Hi Fxloser ...

Lower TF recommend not lower than M30 ... for beginner of this method ..
so,

H4 Trend and M30 entry or D1 Trend, H1 Entry ...

M30 = 30minute Time Frame

Price Action Signal, Pin Bar or Engulfing Candle, Inside Bar ....

After testing candle or pullback candle then open order ...

cheers
  • #5,273
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:18pm Sep 12, 2017 12:18pm
Quoting fxloser
c-12 sir i tried alot but failed to understand ..how to mark that is supply or demand zone ? ..correction candles or reverals candles made after every straight 4-5 candles so by that we can make more than 100 supply and demand zone at a chart ? and which one is strong and good how to know ? i tried some and tried to trade with them . but all failed ...how to know ? market must should reverse from a zone ? how to confirm it ? how to know that a supply /demand zone should be absorbed or not at re test ?
How many Sam Seiden videos have you watched?

There are probably 50 of them or more (all 1 hour long) on Youtube. How many have you sat through?

These questions you're asking tells me you haven't put in the prerequisite work....
  • #5,274
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:23pm Sep 12, 2017 12:23pm
i was watching a video he didnt tell why sell here ?

in maximum videos and articles they made just supply /demand zones ..and said sell here or buy here ? but why sell or buy ? why those zones will never break ? how to confirm it ?
like SUPDEM default indicator .. if we follow it it can easily destory an account in a day .. as it breaks so many supply demand zone .. so how to confirm that zone should not break ? and how to overcome the fear that this demand or supply zone should not break ?
i saw many videos and articles . mostly demand and supply zones made at 90 % of fibonacci retracement .. which is most likley Harmonic pattern .. in harmonic trading we also get PRZ ( potiential reversal zones ) at 88 % correction of 1st leg ..

these supply and demand zones also make at 5th wave failure of elliotwave theory .. my question is .. is there is any relationship in between these theories ?
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  • #5,275
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:28pm Sep 12, 2017 12:28pm
Quoting fxloser
i was watching a video he didnt tell why sell here ? in maximum videos and articles they made just supply /demand zones ..and said sell here or buy here ? but why sell or buy ? why those zones will never break ? how to confirm it ? like SUPDEM default indicator .. if we follow it it can easily destory an account in a day .. as it breaks so many supply demand zone .. so how to confirm that zone should not break ? and how to overcome the fear that this demand or supply zone should not break ? i saw many videos and articles . mostly demand and supply...
You don't need fibs, elliot wave or harmonics to pick a good SD level...

Watch more Sam Seiden videos (as in all of them). It's boring work but you need to put some effort in to fully grasp the concepts...
  • #5,276
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:29pm Sep 12, 2017 12:29pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} How many Sam Seiden videos have you watched? There are probably 50 of them or more (all 1 hour long) on Youtube. How many have you sat through? These questions you're asking tells me you haven't put in the prerequisite work....
there 87 SAM seiden videos and i didnt watch even more than 5 ..becoz of bad voice sound .. and ascent ..( poor quality of videos )

that is only painful ..when u cannot understand whats is he saying

then i found this person and read all the articles

http://www.forexmentoronline.com/a-f...eiden-traders/
  • #5,277
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:31pm Sep 12, 2017 12:31pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} You don't need fibs, elliot wave or harmonics to pick a good SD level... Watch more Sam Seiden videos (as in all of them). It's boring work but you need to put some effort in to fully grasp the concepts...
ok i try again
  • #5,278
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:36pm Sep 12, 2017 12:36pm
Quoting fxloser
{quote} there 87 SAM seiden videos and i didnt watch even more than 5 ..becoz of bad voice sound .. and ascent ..( poor quality of videos ) that is only painful ..when u can understand whats is he saying then i found this person and read all the articles http://www.forexmentoronline.com/a-f...eiden-traders/
Well yeah, I've fell asleep so many times when watching his videos...

Some are better quality than others.

You have to push through and eventually it starts to click and you can automatically see fresh high quality zones pop out on chart.
  • #5,279
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:38pm Sep 12, 2017 12:38pm
Quoting fxloser
{quote} ok i try again
Hi fxloser,

Just read this article ....
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  • #5,280
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:39pm Sep 12, 2017 12:39pm
You then have to understand that S/D knowledge is just foundation learning material, same for candlesticks (otherwise known as PA).

The real hard work is the years of study and screentime in realtime markets.
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