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  • #941
  • Sep 2, 2017 10:22pm Sep 2, 2017 10:22pm
Interesting observation about the NZD and CHF pairs. I also took a look at my TE and out of all the losing pairs NZD was at the top of the list.

6/7 NZD pairs were in loss. Another interesting observation was that the CHF, GBP, JPY, AUD and CAD pairs also lost on 5/7 pairs. It's hard to conclude which currency is having the worst performance overall but NZD for sure is in the lead. The top performer so far is USD. I'll continue to observe to see if this is true and perhaps exclude certain pairs permanently in the future.
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  • #942
  • Sep 3, 2017 12:06am Sep 3, 2017 12:06am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} Very nice analysis. I just went through my reports as well and I'm seeing a pattern of CHF and NZD pairs being the sore spot. This question would go out to FxMadness or Xmess. Obviously the CCFp-Diff indicator has the ability to not trade certain pairs, is there a way to implement something similar? I understand FxM indicator you can deselect pairs as they show up on the indicator, but if you had a basket overnight you wouldn't be able to deselect the pair. Something similar to the CCFp-Diff where you can go in the settings and deselect...
FXM settings.
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  • #943
  • Sep 3, 2017 7:54am Sep 3, 2017 7:54am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} Very nice analysis. I just went through my reports as well and I'm seeing a pattern of CHF and NZD pairs being the sore spot. This question would go out to FxMadness or Xmess. Obviously the CCFp-Diff indicator has the ability to not trade certain pairs, is there a way to implement something similar? I understand FxM indicator you can deselect pairs as they show up on the indicator, but if you had a basket overnight you wouldn't be able to deselect the pair. Something similar to the CCFp-Diff where you can go in the settings and deselect...
Thanks. I got it set next week on two accounts - one with the 13 winners other with all 28. London open/close. Will close trades manually if needed. Reset at weekend - what if this filter was applied daily mmmm we'll see !
  • #944
  • Sep 3, 2017 11:02am Sep 3, 2017 11:02am
Quoting FxMadness
{quote} FXM settings. {image}
Oh excellent, I've never seen that before. Problem was already solved!
  • #945
  • Sep 3, 2017 6:38pm Sep 3, 2017 6:38pm
Quoting stefdek
{quote} Hello PIF , just catched this when looking at your new settings with >FMX/buttons version. Is this intentional ? {image}
Looks like you have found something interesting in FXM because even though a field is set to "False" in Label 11 ===Selection Settings === it appears on the screen as it is being used, just like #3 was False
So it appears that if you have something in the Low, Medium or High Timeframe settings even though it is set to False (not to be used) in Selection Settings, it still shows. Does that mean the setting is used or not?
Maybe FxMadness can answer?
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  • #946
  • Sep 3, 2017 8:34pm Sep 3, 2017 8:34pm
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Looks like you have found something interesting
Hi PIF ,
no sorry , this was not I meant to notice .
As on the screen it only shows part of your Fxm Indies, id4 is set to
consider Number1 Pin-button in RED ccfp D1 TF TL2 with EQB.
while Fxm Indi id 6 is set to consider
Number 1 Pin-button in RED ccfp D1 TF TL2
Number 2 Pin-button in RED ccfp D1 TF TL2
so this is duplicating selection , low and medium selection are just he same thus no filtering.

So, just asked if in Fxm id.6 you should not swap for a ccfp W1 Current MA ...

Now , YOU might have spoted something that I did not catched yet ...lol.
  • #947
  • Sep 4, 2017 4:52am Sep 4, 2017 4:52am
Quoting stefdek
{quote} Hi PIF , no sorry , this was not I meant to notice . As on the screen it only shows part of your Fxm Indies, id4 is set to consider Number1 Pin-button in RED ccfp D1 TF TL2 with EQB. while Fxm Indi id 6 is set to consider Number 1 Pin-button in RED ccfp D1 TF TL2 Number 2 Pin-button in RED ccfp D1 TF TL2 so this is duplicating selection , low and medium selection are just he same thus no filtering. So, just asked if in Fxm id.6 you should not swap for a ccfp W1 Current MA ... Now , YOU might have spoted something that I did not catched yet...
Try again
You are reading what is shown on the screen, that output is wrong!
Why?
Try it for yourself. Put a setting in the indi for "Medium Time Frame settings" and then set the Medium in Label 11 ===Selection Settings === to "False" which means it should not be used and the setting wrongly output to the screen as being used.
A bug that should have been checked and fixed prior to publication otherwise who knows whether the setting is used on not for the output of the pairs.
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  • #948
  • Sep 4, 2017 5:27am Sep 4, 2017 5:27am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Try again You are reading what is shown on the screen, that output is wrong! Why? Try it for yourself. Put a setting in the indi for "Medium Time Frame settings" and then set the Medium in Label 11 ===Selection Settings === to "False" which means it should not be used and the setting wrongly output to the screen as being used. A bug that should have been checked and fixed prior to publication otherwise who knows whether the setting is used on not for the output of the pairs.
There is no bug.
Green always means go through (filter not used) red means stop (filter used).

Haven't got a driver license yet ?.
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  • #949
  • Sep 4, 2017 5:55am Sep 4, 2017 5:55am
Quoting FxMadness
{quote} There is no bug. Green always means go through (filter not used) red means stop (filter used). Haven't got a driver license yet ?. {image}
Did not see that in the "Instructions For FXM", now I know.
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #950
  • Sep 4, 2017 6:11am Sep 4, 2017 6:11am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Did not see that in the "Instructions For FXM", now I know.
It let's you set up the 3 criteria in advance and switch them on or off by clicking the [1],[2] or [3] buttons.
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  • #951
  • Sep 4, 2017 8:56am Sep 4, 2017 8:56am
Quoting mrdfx
Interesting observation about the NZD and CHF pairs. I also took a look at my TE and out of all the losing pairs NZD was at the top of the list. 6/7 NZD pairs were in loss. Another interesting observation was that the CHF, GBP, JPY, AUD and CAD pairs also lost on 5/7 pairs. It's hard to conclude which currency is having the worst performance overall but NZD for sure is in the lead. The top performer so far is USD. I'll continue to observe to see if this is true and perhaps exclude certain pairs permanently in the future. {image}
I was doing some deeper analysis on the top losing pairs and a clear pattern emerged. Calculating the top 10 losers between percentage, profit and pips, these were my worst performers with the highest percentage of loss, profit, and pips. If these pairs also show up as bad losers on your TE then maybe we onto something and should consider excluding them. FYI the account linked to my TE was opened on 09 June so that makes it almost 3 months old, which I think is enough history to see overall results. I will continue to monitor these pairs and see if the data stays the same then I will exclude them in future.

Top 6 losers:

EURNZD
NZDCHF
GBPJPY
AUDCHF
NZDJPY
GBPAUD

Here are another 4 pairs that also had bad losses, but a little less than the above pairs but still made it into the top 10:

EURAUD
GBPNZD
GBPCHF
NZDUSD
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  • #952
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:08am Sep 4, 2017 9:08am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} I was doing some deeper analysis on the top losing pairs and a clear pattern emerged. Calculating the top 10 losers between percentage, profit and pips, these were my worst performers with the highest percentage of loss, profit, and pips. If these pairs also show up as bad losers on your TE then maybe we onto something and should consider excluding them. FYI the account linked to my TE was opened on 09 June so that makes it almost 3 months old, which I think is enough history to see overall results. I will continue to monitor these pairs...
I can see NZD is in 50% of the pairs in the top six. It is again in 50% of the pairs for the lower four.

I read here, cannot remember who, that he always excluded NZD in his trades. Maybe that is something you can investigate.
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  • #953
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:11am Sep 4, 2017 9:11am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} I was doing some deeper analysis on the top losing pairs and a clear pattern emerged. Calculating the top 10 losers between percentage, profit and pips, these were my worst performers with the highest percentage of loss, profit, and pips. If these pairs also show up as bad losers on your TE then maybe we onto something and should consider excluding them. FYI the account linked to my TE was opened on 09 June so that makes it almost 3 months old, which I think is enough history to see overall results. I will continue to monitor these pairs...
I agree that NZD has been a big offender, but I've had some good winners from NZD too. I'd say overall my worst currency has been CHF. Definitely going to watch them as we continue to test, I would hate to exclude a currency completely but if it loses more than it wins then it's obvious that it should be excluded.

One unfair disadvantage that NZD has is the huge spreads. NZD has the highest spreads by far across the board for me and I'm sure it is for most brokers. So statistically even if you traded a basket 1000 times NZD is going to show up at the bottom because the trade explorers include spread.
  • #954
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:22am Sep 4, 2017 9:22am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} I agree that NZD has been a big offender, but I've had some good winners from NZD too. I'd say overall my worst currency has been CHF. Definitely going to watch them as we continue to test, I would hate to exclude a currency completely but if it loses more than it wins then it's obvious that it should be excluded. One unfair disadvantage that NZD has is the huge spreads. NZD has the highest spreads by far across the board for me and I'm sure it is for most brokers. So statistically even if you traded a basket 1000 times NZD is going to show...
Actually, the same person, said that he always excluded NZD and CHF. I wish I could remember who it was but it was part of our group, so if you read this, please step forward and share your knowledge.
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  • #955
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:23am Sep 4, 2017 9:23am
I have also seen the huge spreads from NZD, I'm not even sure why NZD is considered as one of the 7 majors when it's traded/treated like more of an exotic pair. Looking at my TE not even one of the NZD pairs is in a good profit. My best performing NZD pair is AUDNZD and that is floating on around +0.7%, $3 profit, -94 pips, that's nothing to cheer about lol. I'll be keeping a close eye.
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  • #956
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:28am Sep 4, 2017 9:28am
Quoting mrdfx
I have also seen the huge spreads from NZD, I'm not even sure why NZD is considered as one of the 7 majors when it's traded/treated like more of an exotic pair. Looking at my TE not even one of the NZD pairs is in a good profit. My best performing NZD pair is AUDNZD and that is floating on around +0.7%, $3 profit, -94 pips, that's nothing to cheer about lol. I'll be keeping a close eye.
You should be okay with AUD/NZD and maybe NZD/USD.
  • #957
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:30am Sep 4, 2017 9:30am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} I agree that NZD has been a big offender, but I've had some good winners from NZD too. I'd say overall my worst currency has been CHF. Definitely going to watch them as we continue to test, I would hate to exclude a currency completely but if it loses more than it wins then it's obvious that it should be excluded. One unfair disadvantage that NZD has is the huge spreads. NZD has the highest spreads by far across the board for me and I'm sure it is for most brokers. So statistically even if you traded a basket 1000 times NZD is going to show...
Also,if you check your basket open times,you will see that some of your bad performing pairs will be good ones when comparing say,TO and LO.
Ive still got a few which may need to be removed as they appear in both but the list is a lot smaller now.
  • #958
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:34am Sep 4, 2017 9:34am
So I ran demos today just for the sake of testing. As you might imagine, most baskets are red. Monday and holiday doesn't seem to mix well. I didn't trade live because I kinda figured it would be like this. However, my Strength H4 baskets are still doing great, I'll post the results once they all close today. I feel like the Strength H4 indicator displays the best (in my opinion) signals according to what I typically look for when I manually trade. I have had two baskets open with my account that opens on the H4 intervals, so one opened at 08:02, and another at 12:02 (I skip 04:00). So far the 08:02 has profit locked at 175 pips with a max gain of 254 and a 300 TP so almost hit it there. 12:02 basket has just broken 100 pips so we will see what happens. 16:02 is next so once all of those close I will post the actual results. I have high hopes for this one!
  • #959
  • Sep 4, 2017 9:38am Sep 4, 2017 9:38am
Quoting mrdfx
I have also seen the huge spreads from NZD, I'm not even sure why NZD is considered as one of the 7 majors when it's traded/treated like more of an exotic pair. Looking at my TE not even one of the NZD pairs is in a good profit. My best performing NZD pair is AUDNZD and that is floating on around +0.7%, $3 profit, -94 pips, that's nothing to cheer about lol. I'll be keeping a close eye.
Aren't NZD and AUD rightly associated?
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  • #960
  • Sep 4, 2017 10:18am Sep 4, 2017 10:18am
Quoting Embry1
So I ran demos today just for the sake of testing. As you might imagine, most baskets are red. Monday and holiday doesn't seem to mix well. I didn't trade live because I kinda figured it would be like this. However, my Strength H4 baskets are still doing great, I'll post the results once they all close today. I feel like the Strength H4 indicator displays the best (in my opinion) signals according to what I typically look for when I manually trade. I have had two baskets open with my account that opens on the H4 intervals, so one opened at 08:02,...
Are you running your basket open times on GMT or broker time? I know for me on H4 the next candle will appear on every 4th hour on broker time and the GMT/broker offset time is 3 hours.
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