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  • #1
  • First Post: Aug 25, 2017 4:59am Aug 25, 2017 4:59am
Is Drawdown Killing Your Forex Investment?

Get fully automated account recovery help from our professional MT4 robots!

Important!!!
Account must have at least 50% of deposit intact as floating equity.

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Ask questions here or on Skype: forexengines
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  • #2
  • Aug 25, 2017 7:14am Aug 25, 2017 7:14am
You should be getting thousands of replies ....
  • #3
  • Aug 25, 2017 7:21am Aug 25, 2017 7:21am
Quoting Mingary
You should be getting thousands of replies ....

Hi Mingary!

Not sure of "thousands of replies".

Only truly smart traders will seek for our service.
  • #4
  • Aug 27, 2017 11:02pm Aug 27, 2017 11:02pm
Quoting Mingary
You should be getting thousands of replies ....
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  • #5
  • Aug 28, 2017 12:53am Aug 28, 2017 12:53am
Quoting ReverseFlash
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Cute photo, filled with lessons, including the option of navigating your way around the trap.
  • #6
  • Aug 28, 2017 1:28am Aug 28, 2017 1:28am
Forexengines ,
you added a 7th EA ( Endeavor 30 ) , because the previous 6 EAs were all in deep red/loss , but these tricks do not convince any FF member :
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Anyway , the overall situation is disastrous , no smart person will buy your EAs service.
Furthermore, you have opened 4 "duplicate" threads , which say all the same things.
If you continue this way, you will not last long in this FF forum...
  • #7
  • Aug 28, 2017 1:43am Aug 28, 2017 1:43am
Quoting redoktober
Forexengines , you added a 7th EA ( Endeavor 30 ) , because the previous 6 EAs were all in deep red/loss , but these tricks do not convince any FF member : {image} Anyway , the overall situation is disastrous , no smart person will buy your EAs service. Furthermore, you have opened 4 "duplicate" threads , which say all the same things. If you continue this way, you will not last long in this FF forum...
1) We do not list an account with less than US$1k balance or equity. "Endeavor 30" added to visualize capabilities of our robots even after our client withdrew US$500.00 from his account amid open trades in an emergency need.

2) Any topic we have opened focuses on one subject. But there are people who can't spend time to read what they see. Hence, any repetition of content is to help those who can't read between lines.

We do not disturb anyone here, and see no reasons why we cannot last long here.

Maybe you spend MORE TIME to analyse our service?
  • #8
  • Aug 28, 2017 1:49am Aug 28, 2017 1:49am
Quoting forexengines
{quote} 1) We do not list an account with less than US$1k balance or equity. "Endeavor 30" added to visualize capabilities of our robots even after our client withdrew US$500.00 from his account amid open trades in an emergency need. 2) Any topic we have opened focuses on one subject. But there are people who can't spend time to read what they see. Hence, any repetition of content is to help those who can't read between lines. We do not disturb anyone here, and see no reasons why we cannot last long here.
Well , I see that you did not understand my message , evidently you have a tough head, a bad thing for a trader.
Don't abuse about of FF Moderator's patience...
  • #9
  • Aug 28, 2017 2:01am Aug 28, 2017 2:01am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Well , I see that you did not understand my message , evidently you have a tough head, a bad thing for a trader. Don't abuse about of FF Moderator's patience...
Every piece of your message is well read and understood by us.

You want to prove that our service is a "mess" and should not be looked at by anyone here. Your messages are clear enough.

You should understand one fact:
Forex trading is a "process" and there is no short cut to success in it. We never promise our clients "green numbers" (that you wish to see) all the time.

Our robots tediously do their job, and we never manually intervene and tell them what to do.

Please monitor longer term stats for each account to understand our service better.
  • #10
  • Aug 28, 2017 2:11am Aug 28, 2017 2:11am
Quoting ReverseFlash
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Well posted , ReverseFlash !
Usually, these threads end up in this way :
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It's over in this way also for the famous scammer Saranga...
  • #11
  • Aug 28, 2017 2:17am Aug 28, 2017 2:17am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Well posted , ReverseFlash ! Usually, these threads end up in this way : {image} It's over in this way also for the famous scammer Saranga...
Only a BIG SMILE you can have!

You must be "truly intelligent" to handle the service we offer. This is just like rocket science.

Keep watching our progress...
  • #12
  • Aug 28, 2017 3:10am Aug 28, 2017 3:10am
If an account can be recovered from 50% down it means the account will be doubled.. with this type of return, why use it as a recovery tool ?
  • #13
  • Aug 28, 2017 3:20am Aug 28, 2017 3:20am
Quoting Mingary
If an account can be recovered from 50% down it means the account will be doubled.. with this type of return, why use it as a recovery tool ?
Excellent question!

The fact is, we turn ON our service only for freshly opened accounts, so that our robots bear 100% responsibilty for all actions in an account from the onset of trading.

But having helped a client recover US$10k account from remaining US$3k equity after 2016 Brexit referendum week, we feel there are clients who may need the recovery service...which is actually not our standard service, because when setting our robots for recovery duty, we have to switch OFF 100% automation, and set the robots to only hedge open trades on client's account, till equity = balance.
  • #14
  • Aug 28, 2017 3:30am Aug 28, 2017 3:30am
Quoting forexengines
Get fully automated account recovery help from our professional MT4 robots! Important!!! Account must have at least 50% of deposit intact as floating equity.
Doesn't make sense to me.

To state the obvious, the market doesn't behave differently just because one insignificant retail trader is in drawdown. It follows that a strategy (entries/exits) with a genuine edge will make money, regardless of the state of the account (in profit or in drawdown); and conversely, an impotent strategy will gradually bleed money. And it can be shown mathematically (e.g. here (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=6379487#post6379487)) that MM by itself can not alter the expectancy of any strategy. No analysis = no edge.

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set the robots to only hedge open trades on client's account, till equity = balance
If, by "hedging", you mean having simultaneous buy and sell orders in the same instrument, it can easily be shown that any such "hedge" can always be replicated by a single net position.

Sorry, but unless you can demonstrate how your product can circumvent these obvious trading truisms, I won't be buying it.
  • #15
  • Edited 3:52am Aug 28, 2017 3:42am | Edited 3:52am
Quoting hanover
{quote} Doesn't make sense to me. To state the obvious, the market doesn't behave differently just because one insignificant retail trader is in drawdown. It follows that a strategy (entries/exits) with a genuine edge will make money, regardless of the state of the account (in profit or in drawdown); and conversely, an impotent strategy will gradually bleed money. And it can be shown mathematically (e.g. here (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=6379487#post6379487)) that MM by itself can not alter the expectancy of any strategy....
We clearly discuss DD here, and every Forex trader (including banks) understand that the solution for recovering from DD is "intelligent hedging".

"Intelligent hedging" because you MUST know the best time to close your hedge trades, and not fear that trend will rebounce and kill your account. This is the focus of our recovery service.

We do not discuss straight trading here. For that, each trader has his/her own methods.

Sample Hedging Recovery:
If a client has wrongly opened a BUY 2.0 lots EURUSD trade which nows puts his/her account in danger, we set our robots to pursue hedging SELL trades ( timed mostly from M1) till account equity = balance. In this process, we will instruct our robots to either SELL equivalent 0.1 lots * 20 trades, or 0.01 lot * 200 trades at any point, depending on market conditions. Whenever a SELL trend is strong, our robots will hedge the account till full recovery.
  • #16
  • Aug 28, 2017 3:46am Aug 28, 2017 3:46am
Quoting forexengines
{quote}so that our robots bear 100% responsibilty for all actions in an account from the onset of trading.
So we can't blame you then for trashing an account?

It's the robot what dun it........
Road To Wisdom? To err and err and err again, but less and less and less...
  • #17
  • Aug 28, 2017 3:55am Aug 28, 2017 3:55am
Quoting Calculus
{quote} So we can't blame you then for trashing an account? It's the robot what dun it........
A bit funny, though!

Please note that robots belong to our company which takes the responsibilities on each account.

Once our robots are turned ON, client does not have Master Trader's Password for account. Client only views account with Investor's Password.

Once service is completed, we surrender account to client and disclose Master Trader's Password.
  • #18
  • Edited 6:50am Aug 28, 2017 4:00am | Edited 6:50am
Quoting forexengines
We clearly discuss DD here, and every Forex trader (including banks) understand that the solution for recovering from DD is "intelligent hedging". "Intelligent hedging" because you MUST know the best time to close your hedge trades, and not fear that trend will rebounce and kill your account. This is the focus of our recovery service. We do not discuss straight trading here. For that, each trader has his/her own methods.
Sorry, but I'm not convinced. Institutional traders tend to hedge by buying put/call options and/or using correlated instruments.

If you're "hedging" in the same instrument, then while hedged you're effectively paying spread and swap differential on two positions when you could be cost free by simply staying out of the market. Then when you close one side of the hedge, leaving yourself either net long or short, that's just the same as opening a long or short position. Hence this type of "hedging" is not a strategy, because (like I said in my previous post) it can be replicated -- and with lower br0ker costs -- by simply maintaining a single net position.

You'll need to provide a significantly more convincing explanation if you want me to buy your product.
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Sample Hedging Recovery: If a client has wrongly opened a BUY 2.0 lots EURUSD trade which nows puts his/her account in danger, we set our robots to pursue hedging SELL trades ( timed mostly from M1) till account equity = balance. In this process, we will instruct our robots to either SELL equivalent 0.1 lots * 20 trades, or 0.01 lot * 200 trades at any point, depending on market conditions. Whenever a SELL trend is strong, our robots will hedge the account till full recovery.
Looks like you added this section after I had posted, but it doesn't alter what I said. Instead of hedging the buy trades, you could simply (fully or partially) close them, at the same time you would otherwise apply the hedge. I agree that getting the timing right -- whichever way you do it -- requires knowledge of market conditions. Now you need to convince potential buyers that you have that knowledge. Simply saying that you do is not proof.

At the end of the day, you can only be net long, short or flat at any given time, and the "hedging" doesn't add any value, you simply end up paying more spread and swap to your br0ker. If you're unable to understand this, then it won't help you to convince others that you have a good grasp of the mechanics of trading.
  • #19
  • Aug 28, 2017 4:07am Aug 28, 2017 4:07am
Quoting hanover
{quote} Sorry, but I'm not convinced. Institutional traders tend to hedge by buying put/call options and/or using correlated instruments. If you're "hedging" in the same instrument, then while hedged you're effectively paying spread and swap differential on two positions when you could be cost free by simply staying out of the market. Then when you close one side of the hedge, leaving yourself either net long or short, that's just the same as opening a long or short position. Hence this type of "hedging" is not a strategy, because (like I said in...
Traders may choose to hedge a losing trade with another instrument.

But in our recovery service we request our robots to focus ONLY on the instrument(s) which exposed account to danger. Robots can do hundreds of trades on the instrument(s) in question before account recovery.
  • #20
  • Aug 28, 2017 4:23am Aug 28, 2017 4:23am
Quoting forexengines
Traders may choose to hedge a losing trade with another instrument. But in our recovery service we request our robots to focus ONLY on the instrument(s) which exposed account to danger. Robots can do hundreds of trades on the instrument(s) in question before account recovery.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, but you haven't really refuted the points I made. There's no point in my repeating them, so I'll simply move on.
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