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  • Aug 22, 2017 9:08am Aug 22, 2017 9:08am
  •  Akt
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{quote} Good evening AKT I was browsing through past pages & a query rose on seeing this post. Why did opt to short on H4 chart despite the price being low on curve & testing the weekly demand. From my understanding.. the weekly demand was no longer fresh due to the test that happened 3 weeks ago. Please clarify
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Hello vickybha

Price was at weekly supply when the short was triggered, high, rather than low on the curve.
Take a look at the weekly chart again, the SZ is highlighted there

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  • Aug 22, 2017 10:52am Aug 22, 2017 10:52am
  •  wongpasar
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dear sir Akt and friends..

what do you think about this chart below..? price break mom TL but failed to reverse..?
is it wrong mom TL..?? or there should be some explanations about this..??

thanks.

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  • Aug 22, 2017 12:42pm Aug 22, 2017 12:42pm
  •  Akt
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dear sir Akt and friends.. what do you think about this chart below..? price break mom TL but failed to reverse..? is it wrong mom TL..?? or there should be some explanations about this..?? thanks. {image}
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Hello wongpasar
The momentum line you drew was accurate as of the time it was drawn
When price went on to make a new high the momentum should be updated to reflect the new information

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  • Aug 22, 2017 1:07pm Aug 22, 2017 1:07pm
  •  Akt
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Hello everyone.

A trade taken on the SP500 entered yesterday, closed today

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  • Aug 22, 2017 1:11pm Aug 22, 2017 1:11pm
  •  Akt
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Hello EURUSD

Before and after

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  • Aug 22, 2017 2:02pm Aug 22, 2017 2:02pm
  •  isaacpeh
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{quote} Hello wongpasar The momentum line you drew was accurate as of the time it was drawn When price went on to make a new high the momentum should be updated to reflect the new information best wishes{image}
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Sorry to disturb AKT , But there's clearly a reversal there so my question is since the MOM line is broke on the D1 & Lets say its in a week supply, Wouldn't the matrix be to go shorts? A supply is created upon MOM line break.

I have very similiar situations where price just shoots up again. Is there another or other aspects of the market that we should look out for before just diving in thinking it's a reversal?

Thanks!
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  • Aug 22, 2017 3:56pm Aug 22, 2017 3:56pm
  •  vickybha
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{quote} Hello vickybha Price was at weekly supply when the short was triggered, high, rather than low on the curve. Take a look at the weekly chart again, the SZ is highlighted there best wishes
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Oh I'm sorry Michael.. i meant monthly demand not weekly (typo)
Is it a healthy practice to look for shorts when Monthly demand zone is in control
I've written my comments on that GBPCAD chart.
Please do correct me if i am wrong

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  • Aug 22, 2017 5:25pm Aug 22, 2017 5:25pm
  •  Akt
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{quote} Oh I'm sorry Michael.. i meant monthly demand not weekly (typo) Is it a healthy practice to look for shorts when Monthly demand zone is in control I've written my comments on that GBPCAD chart. Please do correct me if i am wrong {image}
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Hello vickybha, isaacpeh
here you go sirs

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  • Aug 23, 2017 1:59am Aug 23, 2017 1:59am
  •  vickybha
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Thanks a lot Michael... Couldn't have asked for more.
 
 
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  •  isaacpeh
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{quote} Hello vickybha, isaacpeh here you go sirs best wishes https://youtu.be/whP8Lvbwz08
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Thanks alot Akt!
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  • Aug 23, 2017 12:44pm Aug 23, 2017 12:44pm
  •  tseannn
  • | Joined May 2017 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Good day everyone,
hope everyone has a good trading week,
a simple question that I wanted to ask is obviously shown in the picture,
so, I've drawn 2 boxes, green and yellow, I've analysed this pair for 2 weeks, quite confident for a bearish trend. So I've 'predicted' the movement of the market according to supply and demand theory here.
I've these two boxes and the price has actually respected the yellow one and pierced through it without even piercing through the green one and drop.
In conclusion, the green box isn't anymore a fresh supply zone as the yellow box is formed because it touched the supply zone and didn't break through it, thus it became another supply zone with solid doji here. So in actual, do we actually focus on the second one which is the fresh one or the first one which is unfresh zone already? OR we should just keep both on the chart and take both into consideration as they're both in the same area?
Hope for more opinions as it benefits others as well, whether how most people think about this situation.
I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but, why not if we have this question once again?
Thank you!

Best regards,
Sean
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  • Aug 23, 2017 2:15pm Aug 23, 2017 2:15pm
  •  SKadir
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Good day everyone, hope everyone has a good trading week, a simple question that I wanted to ask is obviously shown in the picture, so, I've drawn 2 boxes, green and yellow, I've analysed this pair for 2 weeks, quite confident for a bearish trend. So I've 'predicted' the movement of the market according to supply and demand theory here. I've these two boxes and the price has actually respected the yellow one and pierced through it without even piercing through the green one and drop. In conclusion, the green box isn't anymore a fresh supply zone...
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Hi Tseannn,

The push away from both zones are more than double...I normally keep both of them in the chart and sometime combine 2 zones become 1.

Cheers,

Sheik
 
 
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  • Aug 23, 2017 2:35pm Aug 23, 2017 2:35pm
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So, I'm relatively new to FF and am not allowed to start my own thread, so I hope it's ok that I ask a question that is only sort of related to this thread. (I searched for a related topic, and this was the closest I could find.)

I recently came in contact with someone that claims to have an indicator that shows "major" vs "minor" trader activity. They say that the "majors" are likely banks and institutions and "minors" are retail investors. The indicator graphs two pairs of lines... one pair for majors and one pair for minors. Here is a screenshot:

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Unfortunately, the indicator is closed source so I don't know how it works. But, I'd like to figure it out. I know that when I traded stocks years ago I could look at market depth and it showed what institutions were on the bid/ask. But this indicator works with all instruments, in all time frames, including Forex. I'm new to Forex, but my trading platform (MetraTrader 4) does not show what institutions are on the bid/ask using the "Depth of Market" windows.

So, I'm a bit skeptical about whether this indicator is really doing what they say it's doing. Any ideas on where they are getting this data?

Again, sorry for the intrusion here... I hope that since my question is related to institutional order flow that it won't be seen as too off topic.

Thanks in advance for any wisdom that anyone has for me on this topic.
 
 
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  • Aug 23, 2017 6:47pm Aug 23, 2017 6:47pm
  •  zman2
  • | Joined Aug 2017 | Status: Member | 5 Posts
Hello Akt,

I am new to this thread and your material is quite impressive. Very nice job.

Quick question ... do you believe that NZDJPY is currently responding to a Demand Zone at around 78.68? Target 79.66?

Thanks much,
Mark
 
 
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  • Aug 24, 2017 2:26am Aug 24, 2017 2:26am
  •  EVolta
  • | Joined Oct 2016 | Status: Member | 79 Posts
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hi all, if you may explain: 1) how is the shallowness of first retest affect the rate of renounce on sub-sequence retest (2nd/3rd). 2) how is the candle departure and arrival type/pattern to the zone (either supply/demand) do impact re bounce rate. 3) can you provide example of chart with clean departure from a zone without retest (100% fresh) is it the not deep retest will bounce more effective compared to deep tested zone because of too many unfilled order? is it the strong candle arrive to a zone zone will bounce more effectively compare to slower...
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i think i found the answer here in the pdf
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  • Aug 24, 2017 2:46am Aug 24, 2017 2:46am
  •  judysfriend
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Good day everyone, hope everyone has a good trading week, a simple question that I wanted to ask is obviously shown in the picture, so, I've drawn 2 boxes, green and yellow, I've analysed this pair for 2 weeks, quite confident for a bearish trend. So I've 'predicted' the movement of the market according to supply and demand theory here. I've these two boxes and the price has actually respected the yellow one and pierced through it without even piercing through the green one and drop. In conclusion, the green box isn't anymore a fresh supply zone...
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hi sean, in such circumstance, my rule of thumb is always to take the latest one as the older one has normally been tested already. hope this helps.
 
 
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  • Aug 24, 2017 2:55am Aug 24, 2017 2:55am
  •  judysfriend
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So, I'm relatively new to FF and am not allowed to start my own thread, so I hope it's ok that I ask a question that is only sort of related to this thread. (I searched for a related topic, and this was the closest I could find.) I recently came in contact with someone that claims to have an indicator that shows "major" vs "minor" trader activity. They say that the "majors" are likely banks and institutions and "minors" are retail investors. The indicator graphs two pairs of lines... one pair for majors and one pair for minors. Here is a screenshot:...
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hi spockdude, i think this might help to solve your question.
http://www.tradeciety.com/why-fake-v...lume-in-forex/
 
 
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  • Aug 24, 2017 10:49am Aug 24, 2017 10:49am
  •  tseannn
  • | Joined May 2017 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Quoting SKadir
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{quote} Hi Tseannn, The push away from both zones are more than double...I normally keep both of them in the chart and sometime combine 2 zones become 1. Cheers, Sheik
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{quote} hi sean, in such circumstance, my rule of thumb is always to take the latest one as the older one has normally been tested already. hope this helps.
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Thank you very much for your responses.
In a smaller time frame, I think I would just leave both of them there (combine as one) for RR ratio purposes.
In a larger time frame, may be taking the latest would be better in choice of calculating RR ratio.
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  • Aug 24, 2017 1:18pm Aug 24, 2017 1:18pm
  •  Akt
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,643 Posts
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Good day everyone, hope everyone has a good trading week, a simple question that I wanted to ask is obviously shown in the picture, so, I've drawn 2 boxes, green and yellow, I've analysed this pair for 2 weeks, quite confident for a bearish trend. So I've 'predicted' the movement of the market according to supply and demand theory here. I've these two boxes and the price has actually respected the yellow one and pierced through it without even piercing through the green one and drop. In conclusion, the green box isn't anymore a fresh supply zone...
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Hello tseannn,

if i may, i have attached some of my thoughts on the chart below

best wishes
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  • Aug 24, 2017 1:22pm Aug 24, 2017 1:22pm
  •  Akt
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,643 Posts
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Hello Akt, I am new to this thread and your material is quite impressive. Very nice job. Quick question ... do you believe that NZDJPY is currently responding to a Demand Zone at around 78.68? Target 79.66? Thanks much, Mark
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Hello zman2
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you

I think it would be useful for you to post your charts so that the guys can see and know your thought process so they can provide more useful feedback to you

Welcome zman2

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
 
 
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