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  • #321
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:24am Aug 17, 2017 8:24am
Quoting mrdfx
One things is strange though and that is I'm still not pulling the same pips as some of you using the same settings as far as I'm aware. Take the PIF setting for example, some have got 100's of pips this morning while mine didn't. I do have opposites set to false. I also hsve combine lots set to true, although that should not affect the pip count. {image}
Hi mrdfx,

It's happened me too. It's due to broker. I'm getting different results in demo and real with same broker.

Benz
  • #322
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:28am Aug 17, 2017 8:28am
Quoting mrdfx
One things is strange though and that is I'm still not pulling the same pips as some of you using the same settings as far as I'm aware. Take the PIF setting for example, some have got 100's of pips this morning while mine didn't. I do have opposites set to false. I also hsve combine lots set to true, although that should not affect the pip count. {image}
What lot size are you using? And how many pips did you end up with on the FIFO basket?
  • #323
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:35am Aug 17, 2017 8:35am
Quoting mrdfx
One things is strange though and that is I'm still not pulling the same pips as some of you using the same settings as far as I'm aware. Take the PIF setting for example, some have got 100's of pips this morning while mine didn't. I do have opposites set to false. I also hsve combine lots set to true, although that should not affect the pip count. {image}
combining lots will effect pip count but not money
  • #324
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:39am Aug 17, 2017 8:39am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} What lot size are you using? And how many pips did you end up with on the FIFO basket?
For demo testing I use 0.01, for FIFO which specific setting are you referring to, as there a few FIFO?
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #325
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:41am Aug 17, 2017 8:41am
Quoting nihilist23uk
{quote} combining lots will effect pip count but not money
As far as I'm aware xmess7 did fix that part in the EA code and even if you combine lot it does not affect the pip count, so the EA will combine the duplicate trades and their lot but the pip count will still show the same numbers as before. xmess7 can correct me if I'm wrong but I do remember him saying so.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #326
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:44am Aug 17, 2017 8:44am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} For demo testing I use 0.01, for FIFO which specific setting are you referring to, as there a few FIFO?
I was trying to calculate to see if the pip count was affected by your combine trade setting, I was referring to the second basket you posted from the PIF template. Honestly if that's not the case then I don't know what to tell you, I would ask the broker. It shows 22 pairs open which does seem low for the amount of signals shown. What doesn't make sense is that the first basket has 25 pairs and every signal triggered an open trade. Very strange.
  • #327
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:48am Aug 17, 2017 8:48am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} As far as I'm aware xmess7 did fix that part in the EA code and even if you combine lot it does not affect the pip count, so the EA will combine the duplicate trades and their lot but the pip count will still show the same numbers as before. xmess7 can correct me if I'm wrong but I do remember him saying so.
Yeah,I think that rings a bell now,my bad.
  • #328
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:52am Aug 17, 2017 8:52am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} I was trying to calculate to see if the pip count was affected by your combine trade setting, I was referring to the second basket you posted from the PIF template. Honestly if that's not the case then I don't know what to tell you, I would ask the broker. It shows 22 pairs open which does seem low for the amount of signals shown. What doesn't make sense is that the first basket has 25 pairs and every signal triggered an open trade. Very strange.
Yeah I don't know. The PIF basket I'm not counting for TO as it didn't fire on time, but ti did close with -178 pips, and for LO its still open floating around 50 pips.

I'm going to remove, reset and reload everything again and see tonight how it goes.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #329
  • Aug 17, 2017 8:56am Aug 17, 2017 8:56am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Yeah I don't know. The PIF basket I'm not counting for TO as it didn't fire on time, but ti did close with -178 pips, and for LO its still open floating around 50 pips. I'm going to remove, reset and reload everything again and see tonight how it goes.
If you're using a template maybe try just setting up the chart with his settings. It's 6 baskets of CCFp-diff and CCFp-diff MTF.

10080 TF L2
10080 FF L2
1440 TF L2
1440 FF L2
D1 W1 TF L2
D1 W1 FF L2
  • #330
  • Aug 17, 2017 9:12am Aug 17, 2017 9:12am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} If you're using a template maybe try just setting up the chart with his settings. It's 6 baskets of CCFp-diff and CCFp-diff MTF. 10080 TF L2 10080 FF L2 1440 TF L2 1440 FF L2 D1 W1 TF L2 D1 W1 FF L2
Yup that's what I did, I set up each setting individually. Templates shared here don't work properly for me as I use a Mac and for some reason when a template that was saved on Windows it won't work 100% on Mac. When people share templates I'll look at the indicator and figure it out lol.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #331
  • Aug 17, 2017 9:26am Aug 17, 2017 9:26am
Ahaaaaaaa EUREKA! I figured it out! The problem is not the settings or the EA, it my platform!

So on my demo account I have a 200 trade limit and once it hits the broker won't allow additional trades, so whats been happening is that when all my baskets were opening at TP and LO the platform would reach the 200 trades limit and not allow the EA to open all the trades suggested.

I've now removed some weekly baskets that were filling up my platform to make way for the daily tests to run smoothly.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #332
  • Aug 17, 2017 9:53am Aug 17, 2017 9:53am
A bit of info for baskets cases !
I am just about to remove a daily basket that ive been trading for around 12 weeks. It made money nearly ever day for 6 weeks.Account grew very quickly,then slowed.trades then went almost one win one loss.As the stop loss and take profit was the same it it didn't matter. Then we have the next weeks when its given nearly all the profit back.

The moral of this story is,no matter how good it looks,even using daily entry,we have to make sure we have some long testing and make sure its bulletproof before putting hard earned money on the table.
  • #333
  • Aug 17, 2017 9:56am Aug 17, 2017 9:56am
Quoting nihilist23uk
A bit of info for baskets cases ! I am just about to remove a daily basket that ive been trading for around 12 weeks. It made money nearly ever day for 6 weeks.Account grew very quickly,then slowed.trades then went almost one win one loss.As the stop loss and take profit was the same it it didn't matter. Then we have the next weeks when its given nearly all the profit back. The moral of this story is,no matter how good it looks,even using daily entry,we have to make sure we have some long testing and make sure its bulletproof before putting hard...
Hi nihilist

can we know the setting of that basket that did not work?
  • #334
  • Aug 17, 2017 10:49am Aug 17, 2017 10:49am
Quoting FxMadness
@bae67 FXChoise demo. {image}
Thanks for taking the time and testing it. I sent you a PM.
Everything in the universe is mathematical including fear and greed.
  • #335
  • Aug 17, 2017 11:02am Aug 17, 2017 11:02am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Unless you use the same resources it isn't a level playing field so it is not a fair comparison just like showing a Trade Explorer that doesn't use the resources from Post 1 - again not a level playing field so it impossible to make a fair determination and that why the rules were put in place to make it fair for everyone - simple. Just like people who are in line for the competition show their templates etc; it would be unfair for the organiser/funder to compete in the competition.
News times always result in knee jerk over-reactions. Soon after the news mania is over the pairs always give back some of their movements. For stocks I use to enter both sides of the trade. Applying few simple indicator, widely available, I knew when was the time to exit one side and wait to exit the other side. It was always a certain win for me. Never lost during news trades. I am not sure how applicable my method would be to FX.
Everything in the universe is mathematical including fear and greed.
  • #336
  • Aug 17, 2017 11:04am Aug 17, 2017 11:04am
Quoting FxMadness
{quote} I will (except for xmess EA, do not use it) after i tested for at least 3 months. Any time shorter will not show any consistent results.
Are you using your FXM indicator, which you have given out to everyone?
Everything in the universe is mathematical including fear and greed.
  • #337
  • Aug 17, 2017 11:05am Aug 17, 2017 11:05am
Quoting bae67
{quote} News times always result in knee jerk over-reactions. Soon after the news mania is over the pairs always give back some of their movements. For stocks I use to enter both sides of the trade. Applying few simple indicator, widely available, I knew when was the time to exit one side and wait to exit the other side. It was always a certain win for me. Never lost during news trades. I am not sure how applicable my method would be to FX.
Why not just enter once at the point where you would exit the losing trade? You would get the same results with less commission/spread.
  • #338
  • Edited 11:40am Aug 17, 2017 11:27am | Edited 11:40am
Quoting Embry1
{quote} Why not just enter once at the point where you would exit the losing trade? You would get the same results with less commission/spread.
Almost always when I entered one side of the trade during news, I ended up losing. Plus, I think only those with inside trading advantage (illegal) know how a stock will move during news.

By entering both side, I did not care how the stock would move, I knew that whatever direction it moved I was standing to profit from it. Once the news hits, the stock moves so fast that you should not enter since you would lose a lot in slippage .... but after usually 1 to 2 hours you could see that it was losing steam and you should jump the ship from the wining side and wait for the stock to give back some of the movement which would lessen the lose on your losing side of the trade. The net result was always positive without guess work and the emotional stress. As I said, I am not sure if you can do this with FX. I am very new to FX, but those with more experience in FX trading may chime in and let us know if I am way off my bases.

The reason I would try to use this system in FX is that we have a very powerful indicator (thanks to FXMadness, by the way if he shares his first name or a nickname it would he much better), however, there is almost always DD. By trying to adopt this system we could take advantage of the DD "and" the direction the indicator suggests. Sort of double dipping, if you will. I don't know, maybe I am becoming too greedy for my health.
Everything in the universe is mathematical including fear and greed.
  • #339
  • Aug 17, 2017 11:50am Aug 17, 2017 11:50am
Quoting bae67
{quote} Almost always when I entered one side of the trade during news, I ended up losing. Plus, I think only those with inside trading advantage (illegal) know how a stock will move during news. By entering both side, I did not care how the stock would move, I knew that whatever direction it moved I was standing to profit from it. Once the news hits, the stock moves so fast that you should not enter since you would lose a lot in slippage .... but after usually 1 to 2 hours you could see that it was losing steam and you should jump the ship from...
its an interesting one.....looking at todays usd news it would of worked perfectly on all usd pairs.You State side traders would need to use a broker that allowed hedging which is no problem here in UK.
So to implement it we would need a way to open both buy and sell trades on all usd pairs which is easy enough to do with a script,we would then need a script to close out all positive trades and a close all open trades at the end.
theres prob an easier way to do it and test it,but I like the sound of it.
  • #340
  • Aug 17, 2017 12:12pm Aug 17, 2017 12:12pm
Quoting nihilist23uk
{quote} its an interesting one.....looking at todays usd news it would of worked perfectly on all usd pairs.You State side traders would need to use a broker that allowed hedging which is no problem here in UK. So to implement it we would need a way to open both buy and sell trades on all usd pairs which is easy enough to do with a script,we would then need a script to close out all positive trades and a close all open trades at the end. theres prob an easier way to do it and test it,but I like the sound of it.
I am using a broker in UK (multiple accounts), it does take US citizens and does allow this strategy.

I already PMed Xmass about this. He said that it was just not possible since there were a lot of issues he needed to fix with the EA first. This can be done manually, but it will be a pain in the neck and I am not sure how effective it will be manually. With stocks is was just two clicks and I was on both sides of the trades. With FX baskets, there are just too many pairs and this creates problems such as confusion (entering wrong pairs....). So, I am testing it with single pairs to see how it does.
Everything in the universe is mathematical including fear and greed.
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