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  • #1
  • First Post: Jul 27, 2017 2:43pm Jul 27, 2017 2:43pm
since bones have questioned my trading skills, i create this thread.

1) only two members are allowed to post here:

a) bones and
b) deltaone

-> any other poster will be removed.

2) this thread has only one objective:

to prove trading ability in comparison via live trade calls.

3) rules:

a) any underlying, any instrument is valid.
b) intraday, overnight whatsoever.
c) only live trade calls with entry level and sl on a timely manner are valid. tp is optional, if manual close is posted within 1m after doing so.
d) to have same level playing field, we should limitize position size. as i use 1% normally for intraday setupīs, iīd say 10% max - up to you, bones.
e) once a trade is entered, position size should be announced immediately.

i thought you brits like competition, donīt you? since iīm on vacation till 04.09.17, iīd like to appeal to the famous british fair play - letīs have a gentlemenīs agreement to start than.

are you willing to comply with the above mentioned rules, bones?
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #2
  • Jul 27, 2017 2:56pm Jul 27, 2017 2:56pm
Yea i guess but not right now maybe in a month,im very busy
BTW I never questioned your skills at all
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  • #3
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:04pm Jul 27, 2017 3:04pm
In the Uk the kids just broke up from school I have 4
I can't be distracted ,the rules let me think about it
My gut feeling is not to get involved to let FF sway any decisions that could cost money
but then again sound like fun lol
I can tell for a fact I'm short EU
On-site guru & also FF member's' psychiatrist, when not drinking tea
  • #4
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:17pm Jul 27, 2017 3:17pm
id
noun
PSYCHOANALYSIS
noun: id; plural noun: ids

  1. the part of the mind in which innate instinctive impulses and primary processes are manifest.
    "The conflict between the drives of the id and the demands of the cultural superego"


idiot
ˈɪdɪət/
noun

  1. informal
    a stupid person.
    synonyms: fool, ass, halfwit, nincompoop, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, imbecile, dullard, moron, simpleton, clod; More

    1. archaic
      a person of low intelligence.

The last thing FF needs is another trader pissing contest, do us all a favor and just F#0k 0ff back to your respective corners before you attract the TRoll herd and disturb the general peace and ignorance around here.

Please...

If you want to measure phallic mass, do it somewhere else.

Nobody cares in reality, you're just going to make a spectacle of yourselves and no one will take either of you seriously after your pissing contest.... Oh yeah right, good point... go ahead.

Tony, just no...
Hell no, not you, not this.

  • #5
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:20pm Jul 27, 2017 3:20pm
Quoting Bones
Yea i guess but not right now maybe in a month,im very busy BTW I never questioned your skills at all
fine with me, iīm out of business till september.

nice to hear that, sounded different to me.

summer vacations here too (september). wish you a nice time with them - family is the most important thing in live.

all positions flat on fx now here - donīt like to have open fx positions when in holidays - portfolioīs save, donīt think written covered calls will cause delivery of any stocks of my portfolio.

till the next time, bones.
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #6
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:22pm Jul 27, 2017 3:22pm
well that was short lived...

"you challenging me asshole? come on lets go!"

"nah man..i got shit going on in my life..i don't need this"

"oh ok..uhm..that's cool then"

"cool, we good then?"

"yea..we good..i love you..."
  • #7
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:23pm Jul 27, 2017 3:23pm
Well you may have a point
I don't know how D trades ,maybe better to just talk live trades ,honestly it doses't matter to me how anyone does as long as I think their posting genuine
I still like the principled idea

Quoting JimmyC
id noun PSYCHOANALYSIS noun: id; plural noun: ids the part of the mind in which innate instinctive impulses and primary processes are manifest. "The conflict between the drives of the id and the demands of the cultural superego" idiot ˈɪdɪət/ noun informal a stupid person. synonyms: fool, ass, halfwit, nincompoop, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, imbecile, dullard, moron, simpleton, clod; More archaic a person of low intelligence. The last thing FF needs is another trader pissing contest, do us all a favor and just...
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  • #8
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:24pm Jul 27, 2017 3:24pm
Quoting JimmyC
id noun PSYCHOANALYSIS noun: id; plural noun: ids the part of the mind in which innate instinctive impulses and primary processes are manifest. "The conflict between the drives of the id and the demands of the cultural superego" idiot ˈɪdɪət/ noun informal a stupid person. synonyms: fool, ass, halfwit, nincompoop, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, imbecile, dullard, moron, simpleton, clod; More archaic a person of low intelligence. The last thing FF needs is another trader pissing contest, do us all a favor and just...
breach of rule #1 - bye!
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  • #9
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:24pm Jul 27, 2017 3:24pm
Quoting hilmy83
well that was short lived... "you challenging me asshole? come on lets go!" "nah man..i got shit going on in my life..i don't need this" "oh ok..uhm..that's cool then" "cool, we good then?" "yea..we good..i love you..."
breach of rule #1 - bye!
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #10
  • Jul 27, 2017 3:39pm Jul 27, 2017 3:39pm
funny how fast people show their inability to read one simple sentence...

wer lesen kann, ist klar im vorteil.
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #11
  • Jul 28, 2017 5:39am Jul 28, 2017 5:39am
Guys..
this thread is unnecessary.
A much simpler solution is to BOTH to start Trade Explorers.
Make them Demos*... same capital ..with same ENC broker.
No need to disclose either or any of your respective REAL accounts.
In fact very unwise to do so. Recommend NOT.

(You CAN if concerned about having time, & if use certain brokers and platforms,
use copytrade software internally on your servers to link your real Fx trades anonymously to your TE demo on an equity proportional basis.
I dont actually recommend this.. I tried it with unreliable technology, and worked for couple months and when Real account changes made then demo started missing stops from Real, with demo result completely different from Real...LoL)

So since both have time to spare to exchange posts in FFNews?
Just trade your main calls on the Demos for couple of months..
And you have achieved your objective of establishing mutual credibility (in Fx Tradings terms)?
Youll also keep it low key and not provide troll platform to stir shit between you.
Good Luck to both you.
Cliff

*note: Of course demo results are not reflective of Real.(because of TC/etc)
But difference is largely related to trade strategy (with Scalping-uselessly inaccurate .. and Position Trading 90%+ accurate)
so to experienced observer demo-real inaccuracy can be easliy determined.

PS TIP: if you want to discover the extent to which hidden TC - Transaction Costs (think of it as cost-of-sales) plays out with your strategy and broker..
Start Demo with them. same time you start Real. Same equity but preferably with different IP and identity.?
Then use reliable tradecopy software on same server (to zero copy latency.)
Execute live trades THROUGH Demo platform. And at EoM look at difference between account balances.
That will give you realistic estimate of hidden Transaction Cost and on a trade by trade basis.
Can be scary.. LoL
  • #12
  • Jul 29, 2017 6:23am Jul 29, 2017 6:23am
Cliff I'm not interested in having a demo explorer because I believe that info is worthless .
to be straight I don't feel in competition with anyone else at FF

What I look for at FF is someone who can inform me something I didn't know already
D says he worked at a bank the way he speaks I believe him ,also posts charts
So he's good to chat to

I wouldn't engage on that level full stop ,whatever happens I want to see full reasoning


Quoting cliffedwards
Guys.. this thread is unnecessary. A much simpler solution is to BOTH to start Trade Explorers. Make them Demos*... same capital ..with same ENC broker. No need to disclose either or any of your respective REAL accounts. In fact very unwise to do so. Recommend NOT. (You CAN if concerned about having time, & if use certain brokers and platforms, use copytrade software internally on your servers to link your real Fx trades anonymously to your TE demo on an equity proportional basis. I dont actually recommend this.. I tried it with unreliable technology,...
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  • #13
  • Edited 7:39am Jul 29, 2017 6:36am | Edited 7:39am
You started a demo explorer for credibility ,then blamed tech issue you never bothered to resolve....trust me that looks bad anyone who's survived this game over sometime
what you would need to do to raise credibility to the level you say your at in my mind
Is translate your fundi views into a chart or something solid that can be judged in real time

the main thing would be here is your passing info on thats reliable
On-site guru & also FF member's' psychiatrist, when not drinking tea
  • #14
  • Jul 29, 2017 6:39am Jul 29, 2017 6:39am
Hours Bones spending on FF looking for great explorers =0
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  • #15
  • Edited 8:03pm Jul 29, 2017 8:51am | Edited 8:03pm
As I said I have never said I'm the better trader ,I don't know at all
All I said was having been a banker ,done economics at Uni while handy {Deutsche Bank actually in financial trouble hope that's not down to D :-) }
doses't set you up as then a trader or give that much of an edge compared to the other skills required
even a bank can fall pray to the number one necessity ,emotion -controlling greed.
anyone can check my history


Quoting hilmy83
well that was short lived... "you challenging me asshole? come on lets go!" "nah man..i got shit going on in my life..i don't need this" "oh ok..uhm..that's cool then" "cool, we good then?" "yea..we good..i love you..."
On-site guru & also FF member's' psychiatrist, when not drinking tea
  • #16
  • Jul 29, 2017 9:23am Jul 29, 2017 9:23am
Im not going to take head patting from Cliff when I have the better FF profile
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  • #17
  • Edited 4:58am Jul 30, 2017 4:37am | Edited 4:58am
Cliff has asked me why I thought theres no way I'm looking at a flag monthly eur gbp
if the next w1 candle is solid red then the big white w1 is false even though it looks bullish
whatever happens next I'm looking at a swing high if it goes up above 9150 it will fail spectacular imo
EU bull run has not broke free on that basis also USDX clearer ,bearish but at a major level
but I have nothing other than anticipation
#downward red line complete guess
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  • #18
  • Jul 30, 2017 5:07am Jul 30, 2017 5:07am
eur aud I don't have to guess a bearish TL
then bearish monthly ,
so the bullish w1 has limitations if it breaks around to 15 is the most possible in all probability
likely it goes to support
as long as major line stays
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  • #19
  • Jul 30, 2017 6:19am Jul 30, 2017 6:19am
fair warning as before another fundamental specialist
who works in a bank

Quoting Bones
q about to print sets tone ,it can only retrace in my eyes for a some time ,I don't see it going into the upper wick before much lower {image}
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  • #20
  • Jul 30, 2017 1:14pm Jul 30, 2017 1:14pm
Quoting cliffedwards
Guys.. this thread is unnecessary. A much simpler solution is to BOTH to start Trade Explorers. Make them Demos*... same capital ..with same ENC broker. No need to disclose either or any of your respective REAL accounts. In fact very unwise to do so. Recommend NOT. (You CAN if concerned about having time, & if use certain brokers and platforms, use copytrade software internally on your servers to link your real Fx trades anonymously to your TE demo on an equity proportional basis. I dont actually recommend this.. I tried it with unreliable technology,...
sorry, cliff:

breach of rule #1 - bye!
fortis fortuna adiuvat
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