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  • #201
  • Jul 9, 2017 10:37pm Jul 9, 2017 10:37pm
Quoting NeilWagner
{quote} This is appropriate for the market maker (mainly non-regulated Forex brokers). Even they create false spikes in market! But, transparent Forex brokers are different! They secure traders trading capital and moderate their live trades position in the right way!
BROKERAGE IS A BUSINESS IF THE BROKER AS SHAREHOLDERS profits are very important to the broker you are the money making machine for your broker
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  • #202
  • Jul 9, 2017 10:57pm Jul 9, 2017 10:57pm
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  • #203
  • Jul 12, 2017 7:22pm Jul 12, 2017 7:22pm
Quoting MarkFxAnde
When I was a newbie I trade with a scam broker where I always used SL to reduce my loss but alas! My Stop loss didnt work at all even sometimes demo. Thats why we have to make sure the real regulated broker which doesnt hunts traders SL.
theirs always scam brokers
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  • #204
  • Jul 12, 2017 9:33pm Jul 12, 2017 9:33pm
Hi everyone. Zillion here. The notion of brokers hunting 'my stop loss' is a suspicious concern in forex trading and I cannot blame anyone for feeling this way. My thinking is this kind of notion could shift your mind set and becloud your simple judgement and trading decisions. The reverse of this notion or question would be - 'Are brokers hunting my Take Profit'. On a section of this website you will be surprised to find that for any particular currency pair you are trading - say BUY - there is a significant number of traders who are on the 'SELL' side. The algorithm running this complex trade worldwide tilts the balance in favor of the biggest bidder which in this case could be big money movers, banking and institutional transactions, high impact news, etc or a combination of these. Check out that section of this website that displays how many traders there are on opposite sides - BUY or SELL - on the same currency pair. This will help your strategy and mindset ultimately. Bottom line - KEEP IT SIMPLE and STICK WITH .01, .1 and 1 lots for the appropriate account size then your losses will only nibble at your account balance and you stand the chance to recoup afterwards.
  • #205
  • Jul 15, 2017 8:42pm Jul 15, 2017 8:42pm
Quoting Zillion
Hi everyone. Zillion here. The notion of brokers hunting 'my stop loss' is a suspicious concern in forex trading and I cannot blame anyone for feeling this way. My thinking is this kind of notion could shift your mind set and becloud your simple judgement and trading decisions. The reverse of this notion or question would be - 'Are brokers hunting my Take Profit'. On a section of this website you will be surprised to find that for any particular currency pair you are trading - say BUY - there is a significant number of traders who are on the 'SELL'...

after teaching new traders to do 1 , 2 cent trades until they learn how to trade they get a good profit of one trade and they think they have become traders so they leave the advice that was freely given and trade full lots wiping their accounts then blaming others for there determination to get greedy
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  • #206
  • Jul 16, 2017 2:56am Jul 16, 2017 2:56am
Quoting Aussi
{quote} after teaching new traders to do 1 , 2 cent trades until they learn how to trade they get a good profit of one trade and they think they have become traders so they leave the advice that was freely given and trade full lots wiping their accounts then blaming others for there determination to get greedy
Unfortunately, although the advice is great in theory, in reality they would have probably been better off trading a decent amount of money and practicing good risk management. It's not psychologically easy trading for pennies. It takes discipline that most don't have. They get frustrated with the gains. Seems like so much work for nothing. In my opinion trading under capitalized blows up more accounts. Don't start trading at all until you have at least a couple thousand or so I would say. That way with 1-2 percent risk you can still make decent gains and still it's enough money to lose that the trader will respect the account more. The more money at risk the more it would hurt to be stupid with it. That's what worked for me at least. Never blown an account to this day. I've made every mistake in the book and drawn down to 50% more than once but the account always survived because I respected the money at stake and couldn't afford to lose it or I couldn't trade. Number one rule in trading is protect your capital!
  • #207
  • Jul 16, 2017 12:46pm Jul 16, 2017 12:46pm
Although you can never know for sure, I think an investor who invests through retail brokers should definitely pay attention to whether the broker is regulated and what kind of regulations apply to them in terms of stop/loss hunting or any other potential threat.
  • #208
  • Jul 16, 2017 2:07pm Jul 16, 2017 2:07pm
Quoting Aussi
Hi girls and guys does your broker hunt your stoploss and do you believe a stoploss is a must
Hi,

does your broker hunt your stoploss? I think no maybe in 1,2 or 3 pips not more by make the spread higher.
but the right question is : does your broker fuck your trade stile? Yes by Spreads and Slippage.

do you believe a stoploss is a must? MUST and MUST and MUST.

Regards
  • #209
  • Jul 17, 2017 7:05am Jul 17, 2017 7:05am
Quoting eaX
{quote} Hi, does your broker hunt your stoploss? I think no maybe in 1,2 or 3 pips not more by make the spread higher. but the right question is : does your broker fuck your trade stile? Yes by Spreads and Slippage. do you believe a stoploss is a must? MUST and MUST and MUST. Regards
you started of well then fell
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  • #210
  • Jul 17, 2017 7:08pm Jul 17, 2017 7:08pm
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  • #211
  • Jul 18, 2017 6:20am Jul 18, 2017 6:20am
Quoting Aussi
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remembers me about the joke about loser traders.

whats the last word of a retail trader: the market always comes back.
  • #212
  • Jul 18, 2017 2:39pm Jul 18, 2017 2:39pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} remembers me about the joke about loser traders. whats the last word of a retail trader: the market always comes back.
and the market does look euro look pound look aud look gold
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  • #213
  • Jul 18, 2017 2:52pm Jul 18, 2017 2:52pm
I'm a parasitic trader.
Smart money stop hunts in order to get liquidity.
As a retail trader I must follow smart money.
To do that I trade breakouts of the ressistance in bullish trends. And breakouts of the support in bearish trends.
Why ? The weak money usually places their stops in the following areas
The truth is hidden from you
  • #214
  • Jul 18, 2017 3:14pm Jul 18, 2017 3:14pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} and the market does look euro look pound look aud look gold
thats your coming back? really? ok, then in eurusd there are high and low far away. but both you will see in next time in your theory (the market always comes back), or will you wait many decades ? really not smart investment.
  • #215
  • Jul 18, 2017 3:18pm Jul 18, 2017 3:18pm
I always use a wide stop loss. I try to never hit it. If I do, it was a black swan event, or I screwed up, or both. Out of my last 42 trades, I hit a stop loss once. I have no evidence my broker hunts my stop. But I have no doubt that if a huge number of stops are gathered at one particular point, say a big round number, some traders will structure trades to execute off a bounce off that big round number, which is accelerated by stops triggering there, or just below. Accept the blame for all your losses and bask in the credit for all your wins and you'll be a better trader for it. Just my own humble opinion on the subject.
  • #216
  • Jul 18, 2017 4:23pm Jul 18, 2017 4:23pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} thats your coming back? really? ok, then in eurusd there are high and low far away. but both you will see in next time in your theory (the market always comes back), or will you wait many decades ? really not smart investment.

SMART INVESTMENT making 47% mine is no theory but I am sure others are also smart while others are concerned about theory and when as ever traders had to wait forever seems to me " PEOPLE BUY AT THE TOP FOR IT MOVE UP WHEN A CHANGE IN TREND IS DOWN OR VICE VERSA " and did not ....... PERHAPS YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE , I learnt 20 odd years ago TREND IS YOUR FRIEND OR DONT YOU BELIVE IT and learnt when to get in and out of a trade
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  • #217
  • Jul 18, 2017 4:40pm Jul 18, 2017 4:40pm
Quoting Graviton
I always use a wide stop loss. I try to never hit it. If I do, it was a black swan event, or I screwed up, or both. Out of my last 42 trades, I hit a stop loss once. I have no evidence my broker hunts my stop. But I have no doubt that if a huge number of stops are gathered at one particular point, say a big round number, some traders will structure trades to execute off a bounce off that big round number, which is accelerated by stops triggering there, or just below. Accept the blame for all your losses and bask in the credit for all your wins and...
like what you say
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  • #218
  • Jul 18, 2017 5:33pm Jul 18, 2017 5:33pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} SMART INVESTMENT making 47% mine is no theory but I am sure others are also smart while others are concerned about theory and when as ever traders had to wait forever seems to me " PEOPLE BUY AT THE TOP FOR IT MOVE UP WHEN A CHANGE IN TREND IS DOWN OR VICE VERSA " and did not ....... PERHAPS YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE , I learnt 20 odd years ago TREND IS YOUR FRIEND OR DONT YOU BELIVE IT and learnt when to get in and out of a trade
i really dont know any about you, maybe you are good trader, maybe poser, maybe extrem bad trader, doesnt matter and is uninteresting. i only speak about your sentence "the market always comes back". thats wrong, and you can try to argument why its not wrong, but believe me, dont try, you cant win with this crazy sentence.
  • #219
  • Jul 18, 2017 5:48pm Jul 18, 2017 5:48pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i really dont know any about you, maybe you are good trader, maybe poser, maybe extrem bad trader, doesnt matter and is uninteresting. i only speak about your sentence "the market always comes back". thats wrong, and you can try to argument why its not wrong, but believe me, dont try, you cant win with this crazy sentence.
not trying to defend it " i believe in it "
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  • #220
  • Jul 19, 2017 4:48am Jul 19, 2017 4:48am
Its probably because your a bad trader. Is anyones account even worth stop-hunting for? I know mine certainly isn't

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