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  • #1
  • First Post: Jul 10, 2017 5:36am Jul 10, 2017 5:36am
Hello I am looking for a professional Mql trainer who can train me from basic to advanced level. I am willing to pay fairly. I prefer to have sessions atleast 4 days a week.
Tutorials must be example based training. (indicators. EAs, script)
( I am aware of basics and little more already but don't mind refreshing)

please add me on skype id fastpaybus
Thank you.
Regards
AJ.
  • #2
  • Jul 10, 2017 5:55am Jul 10, 2017 5:55am
Quoting scalperpeak
Hello I am looking for a professional Mql trainer who can train me from basic to advanced level. I am willing to pay fairly. I prefer to have sessions atleast 4 days a week. Tutorials must be example based training. (indicators. EAs, script) ( I am aware of basics and little more already but don't mind refreshing) please add me on skype id fastpaybus Thank you. Regards AJ.
The very first thing you need to do is learn C++. You don't necessarily need to know the libraries but you should be comfortable with OOP concepts, functions, and general syntax. You'll easily find good c++tutorials but I've personal never seen an mql tutorial that covers all the aforementioned skills, especially OOP. OOP isn't absolute necessary if you just want to do some really simple programs, but if you ever want to get into some more complex programming or MQL5 then you'll need to learn it.
  • #3
  • Jul 10, 2017 6:07am Jul 10, 2017 6:07am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} The very first thing you need to do is learn C++. You don't necessarily need to know the libraries but you should be comfortable with OOP concepts, functions, and general syntax. You'll easily find good c++tutorials but I've personal never seen an mql tutorial that covers all the aforementioned skills, especially OOP. OOP isn't absolute necessary if you just want to do some really simple programs, but if you ever want to get into some more complex programming or MQL5 then you'll need to learn it.
Firstly Thank you for your suggestion.
Yes, I want to do some complex coding. And that's why I need an MQL trainer. I have gone through the C and Mql basics but now to move ahead above basics and venture above the intermidiary level, I want to learn from a trainer. So thats why I am looking for the training course of 6 months
  • #4
  • Jul 10, 2017 6:16am Jul 10, 2017 6:16am
Quoting scalperpeak
{quote} Firstly Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, I want to do some complex coding. And that's why I need an MQL trainer. I have gone through the C and Mql basics but now to move ahead above basics and venture above the intermidiary level, I want to learn from a trainer. So thats why I am looking for the training course of 6 months
If you want complex you need to learn OOP, and don't accept any offers from a trainer who won't have a focus on OOP development with mql. If you just stick with procedural C you're going to be programming with your hands behind your back and you're going to wind up frustratingly making 1000s of lines of spaghetti code.
  • #5
  • Jul 10, 2017 6:27am Jul 10, 2017 6:27am
Quoting scalperpeak
{quote} Firstly Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, I want to do some complex coding. And that's why I need an MQL trainer. I have gone through the C and Mql basics but now to move ahead above basics and venture above the intermidiary level, I want to learn from a trainer. So thats why I am looking for the training course of 6 months
This is what I would suggest you start with. https://www.sololearn.com/join/?ref=site the c++ tutorial.
  • #6
  • Edited 9:27am Jul 10, 2017 9:03am | Edited 9:27am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} This is what I would suggest you start with. https://www.sololearn.com/join/?ref=site the c++ tutorial.
Thank You so very very much for your time and effort.
But I am always Open for training from an MQL trainer.
Hope to see someone reply me on skype
  • #7
  • Jul 10, 2017 9:46am Jul 10, 2017 9:46am
Quoting scalperpeak
Hello I am looking for a professional Mql trainer who can train me from basic to advanced level. I am willing to pay fairly. I prefer to have sessions atleast 4 days a week. Tutorials must be example based training. (indicators. EAs, script) ( I am aware of basics and little more already but don't mind refreshing) please add me on skype id fastpaybus Thank you. Regards AJ.
my suggestion is you try to read this book first.
it's worth every penny.

https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Adviso.../dp/0982645937
https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Adviso.../dp/0982645929
  • #8
  • Jul 10, 2017 9:53am Jul 10, 2017 9:53am
Quoting Hairi
{quote} my suggestion is you try to read this book first. it's worth every penny. https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Adviso.../dp/0982645937 https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Adviso.../dp/0982645929
Thank you so much for the links. I am aware of mql5.com tutorials which I have read to an extent. I sure will look into these links.
  • #9
  • Jul 10, 2017 9:59am Jul 10, 2017 9:59am
Hi Scalperpeak,

forget the books. They are useless. You need a challenge in creating a mql4 program. If you have small programming knowledge, then it will be easy.

Kind regards,
Hoschie
  • #10
  • Jul 10, 2017 10:32am Jul 10, 2017 10:32am
Quoting Hoschie
Hi Scalperpeak, forget the books. They are useless. You need a challenge in creating a mql4 program. If you have small programming knowledge, then it will be easy. Kind regards, Hoschie
Well I am aware of it a little bit and that exactly is the reason I need a mentor(trainer) to pursue into the complexities of coding.
  • #11
  • Edited 5:45am Jul 13, 2017 5:34am | Edited 5:45am
Quoting Hoschie
...forget the books. They are useless....
Yes, I agree. Forget about the books, forget about the mobile apps. Also, it doesn't work like this: (1) Find a mentor, (2) learn coding, (3) become successfull.


You need to develop an understanding of how the market works and what you can and can't do with coding. Learning to code will not help you with this, especially if you already have basic coding knowledge. Instead I recommend to look for like-minded people in your area or, if you have the money, look for professional training. With this I mean training from prop firms, i.e. Stage5.

Joining forces is the way to go as you cannot develop all your tools by yourself, even if you was a superior coder. Then you have to decide about the style you want to develop: Do you want to trade discretionary or automated? Then you look for the tools you need and start to look for people which already have the knowledge. Until you reach this point you don't need any coding knowledge at all but an understanding of the markets and trading in general.

My personal opinion (I know it sounds rude but just take it as a personal opinion): 95% of the so-called coders in this forum are script kiddies which have NO proper coding knowledge. So think about who you ask for training. I would definitely recommend not to look HERE.

Instead looking for MQL training it might be a better idea to look for opportunities in developing successfull trading systems in general, independent of any language. Learn about proper backtesting and analyzing approaches, again independant of a language. Short, develope a style that works for you. After look for the tools to transform your style into successfull trades. The above mentioned 95% match with another number of 95 and that's not by coincidence. I leave that riddle to you.

Best of luck
It takes blood, sweat and enough tears to wash away the blood.
  • #12
  • Jul 13, 2017 6:55am Jul 13, 2017 6:55am
Quoting emmzett
{quote} Yes, I agree. Forget about the books, forget about the mobile apps. Also, it doesn't work like this: (1) Find a mentor, (2) learn coding, (3) become successfull. You need to develop an understanding of how the market works and what you can and can't do with coding. Learning to code will not help you with this, especially if you already have basic coding knowledge. Instead I recommend to look for like-minded people in your area or, if you have the money, look for professional training. With this I mean training from prop firms, i.e. Stage5....
I am very thankful to you for giving me inspiration. and enlightening on the difference between a coder and a Thinking coder. Your input is also valuable. I can understand what you mean. I am trying to put my best possible by reading everyone's suggestion. Once again. Thanks.
  • #13
  • Jul 13, 2017 7:09am Jul 13, 2017 7:09am
Quoting scalperpeak
{quote} I am very thankful to you for giving me inspiration. and enlightening on the difference between a coder and a Thinking coder. Your input is also valuabel. I can understand what you mean. I am trying to put my best possible by reading everyone's suggestion. Once again. Thanks.
Let's say you already know enough of the markets, and let's say you already had a strategy in mind...

Let's say that you wanted to build a multi-currency scalper that opens positions on all pairs of a particular country's currency (eg. USDJPY,EURUSD,GBPUSD... XXXUSD) when all pairs retrace 1.5ATR on M1 in the face of a strong H1 trend. You also want to set stops on each order at 2ATR and spead a total risk of n% evenly across all pairs. Simple enough said, but nearly impossible to manage in MQL without the use of OOP.

Inserted Code
if(has_strategy_in_mind)
{
   if(!is_simple && knows_oop)
      DiveIntoMQL();
   else
      LearnOOP();
}

There are many opinions in the thread, but one thing is certain... if you're gonna try and learn OOP from an MQL tutorial you're in for a bad time.
  • #14
  • Jul 13, 2017 7:21am Jul 13, 2017 7:21am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} Let's say you already know enough of the markets, and let's say you already had a strategy in mind... Let's say that you wanted to build a multi-currency scalper that opens positions on all pairs of a particular country's currency (eg. USDJPY,EURUSD,GBPUSD... XXXUSD) when all pairs retrace 1.5ATR on M1 in the face of a strong H1 trend. You also want to set stops on each order at 2ATR and spead a total risk of n% evenly across all pairs. Simple enough said, but nearly impossible to manage in MQL without the use of OOP. if(has_strategy_in_mind)...
Yes.OOP is another level for me right now.
Well I first want to get a little grip on the basics coding, to build up some confidence and eliminate that hell bent fear that I will not be able to put logic in coding. Reading is easy but putting it into practise is another level of courage for me and thats what led to come here.
  • #15
  • Jul 13, 2017 7:39am Jul 13, 2017 7:39am
Quoting scalperpeak
{quote} Yes.OOP is another level for me right now. Well I first want to get a little grip on the basics coding, to build up some confidence and eliminate that hell bent fear that I will not be able to put logic in coding. Reading is easy but putting it into practise is another level of courage for me and thats what led to come here.
Which is exactly why you should complete a simple C++ tutorial with practical examples first (solo-learn is awesome), and at least have a basic understanding of OOP before investing a whole lot of time with MQL. Trust me, I made these mistakes already and wasted a lot of time learning to write shi* spaghetti code. Almost all MQL examples here use procedural C logic with a ridiculous amount of (confusing) nested statements and booleans that traverse the global scope; in and out of random functions... it's a freakin' mess. Compare a typical C-style-spaghetti MQL4 EA with a well done MQL5 (OOP) EA and the ability to understand what's going on (logic) is night and day.
  • #16
  • Jul 13, 2017 7:46am Jul 13, 2017 7:46am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} Which is exactly why you should complete a simple C++ tutorial with practical examples first (solo-learn is awesome), and at least have a basic understanding of OOP before investing a whole lot of time with MQL. Trust me, I made these mistakes already and wasted a lot of time learning to write shi* spaghetti code. Almost all MQL examples here use procedural C logic with a ridiculous amount of (confusing) nested statements and booleans that traverse the global scope; in and out of random functions... it's a freakin' mess. Compare a typical...
That 1 thing you nailed it bro. You read the real fear- the NESTED random functions. I did my basics already. I can also understand. I start shivering when I have to write a logic which is on my mind. So yes I admit of my fear. I am also a human and I have seen and have read others code but there are 2 things which I would point to-- simply basics is not helping and as Hoschie and Emzzett put it in their comments.- A real hard push to do the codes (something which you did experience already) and keep checking outputs at various levels of codes particularly using bools , prints and alerts. and ofcourse not to forget the books of training.
  • #17
  • Jul 13, 2017 7:56am Jul 13, 2017 7:56am
Quoting scalperpeak
{quote} That 1 thing you nailed it bro. You read the real fear- the NESTED random functions. I did my basics already. I can also understand. I start shivering when I have to write a logic which is on my mind. So yes I admit of my fear. I am also a human and I have seen and have read others code but there are 2 things which I would point to-- simply basics is not helping and as Hoschie and Emzzett put it in their comments.- A real hard push to do the codes (something which you did experience already) and keep checking outputs at various levels of...
Absolutely, stay interested and put newly acquired knowledge immediately to use by playing around with some MQL functions and simple programs that write out to the log- and while you're at it make sure you learn the debugger and how to set breakpoints, step thru your code, and watch variables/expressions in the debug window.

...but do not skip the C++ tutorial.

In six months you could easily become one of the elite MQL developers around here if you follow this track.
  • #18
  • Jul 13, 2017 8:02am Jul 13, 2017 8:02am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} Absolutely, stay interested and put newly acquired knowledge immediately to use by playing around with some MQL functions and simple programs that write out to the log- and while you're at it make sure you learn the debugger and how to set breakpoints, step thru your code, and watch variables/expressions in the debug window. ...but do not skip the C++ tutorial. If you follow this track, in six months you could easily become one of the elite MQL developers around here.
Yes I am noting that down. That is the possible way to move the wheels ahead.
  • #19
  • Last Post: Jul 13, 2017 8:18am Jul 13, 2017 8:18am
Quoting Nicholishen
{quote} Absolutely, stay interested and put newly acquired knowledge immediately to use by playing around with some MQL functions and simple programs that write out to the log- and while you're at it make sure you learn the debugger and how to set breakpoints, step thru your code, and watch variables/expressions in the debug window. ...but do not skip the C++ tutorial. In six months you could easily become one of the elite MQL developers around here if you follow this track.
And ofcourse Thanks.
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