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  • #4,241
  • Jul 11, 2017 6:17am Jul 11, 2017 6:17am
Quoting isaacpeh
Had a loss on the AUD/JPY. Was this process correct, only that the outcome could not be controlled , or was this process wrong that supported the outcome of this trade? Shorted at the yellow zone on the H4. Would love to learn from my mistakes H4 : {image} D1: {image} WK: {image}
Hello isaacpeh. But it is only my opinion
Excuse for bad English
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  • #4,242
  • Jul 11, 2017 9:57am Jul 11, 2017 9:57am
Some small trading idea for intraday trading...just for the practice

on the GBP JPY 4H chart supply was formed with the break of the blue support line

Zooming in, we can see a possible entry point on the 30 min chart
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  • #4,243
  • Jul 11, 2017 7:34pm Jul 11, 2017 7:34pm
Food for thought UJ, best to wait to touch the blue area daily sz? (i think its a fresh zone) or aggressive entry if the daily momentum trend line confirmed?

Purple = Weekly Zone
Blue = Daily Zone

Day:
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please comment or condemn
  • #4,244
  • Jul 12, 2017 5:23am Jul 12, 2017 5:23am
Quoting EVolta
Food for thought UJ, best to wait to touch the blue area daily sz? (i think its a fresh zone) or aggressive entry if the daily momentum trend line confirmed? Purple = Weekly Zone Blue = Daily Zone Day: {image} H4: {image} please comment or condemn
It depends which tf you take as a base.
If it's the daily then you need to wait for price to reach the blue zone and find some entry point inside it on the lower TF. Or trade it on a first touch SL set and forget.
If it's the 4h you take as a base, then you have a supply zone formed with the break of that diagonal support zone and you look for entry possibilities on 1h and lower time frames.
Just my 2 cents, i can also be completely wrong ( most probably :-D)
Br
Minosd
  • #4,245
  • Jul 12, 2017 6:25am Jul 12, 2017 6:25am
Dear traders, Akt.

I had a loosing trade few days ago, but was busy to post about it. Please, review my thoughts for short position in USD/JPY. I had set and forget trade, because I can not watch the market.
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Best wishes.
  • #4,246
  • Jul 12, 2017 6:52am Jul 12, 2017 6:52am
Dear traders,

EUR/JPY short position trade idea. Please, review my thoughts in screenshot. I would be thankful for your thoughts.
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Best wishes.
  • #4,247
  • Jul 12, 2017 8:38am Jul 12, 2017 8:38am
A big one nobody talked about
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  • #4,248
  • Jul 12, 2017 8:53am Jul 12, 2017 8:53am
Quoting isaacpeh
Had a loss on the AUD/JPY. Was this process correct, only that the outcome could not be controlled , or was this process wrong that supported the outcome of this trade? Shorted at the yellow zone on the H4. Would love to learn from my mistakes H4 : {image} D1: {image} WK: {image}
Hello isaacpeh,
if i may, the process seems fine

something to think about on the daily chart is that the daily sz was already tested and had a good move down. You were trying to short the top of the initial reaction to the daily SZ but there wasn't a defined daily SZ there.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,249
  • Jul 12, 2017 8:59am Jul 12, 2017 8:59am
Quoting EVolta
Food for thought UJ, best to wait to touch the blue area daily sz? (i think its a fresh zone) or aggressive entry if the daily momentum trend line confirmed? Purple = Weekly Zone Blue = Daily Zone Day: {image} H4: {image} please comment or condemn
Hello EVolta
Thank you for sharing your idea with us.

Something to consider please,
a) the approach to the daily SZ. Not great for that SZ.
b) the 4hr chart - the momo line is incorrect, the second point should be around 114; and more importantly, the end of momentum for no apparent reason is often a bit suspect.

please note that none of these observations negates your trade idea or even suggests that the idea is not a good one or will not work. As i often say, we are not invested in outcomes, only process.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,250
  • Jul 12, 2017 9:06am Jul 12, 2017 9:06am
Quoting Nojak
Dear traders, Akt. I had a loosing trade few days ago, but was busy to post about it. Please, review my thoughts for short position in USD/JPY. I had set and forget trade, because I can not watch the market. {image} Best wishes.
Hello Nojak
Thank you for sharing this trade.

Something i thisk is worth thinking about is the fact that the weekly was in a sideways market when you shorted. Secondly and because of that, your trade though correct, had limited profit margin. As you can see, price reacted well on the initial arrival to your zone but then came back. So on the whole profit margin was a concern.
You can see that on the daily as well

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,251
  • Jul 12, 2017 9:09am Jul 12, 2017 9:09am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello isaacpeh, if i may, the process seems fine something to think about on the daily chart is that the daily sz was already tested and had a good move down. You were trying to short the top of the initial reaction to the daily SZ but there wasn't a defined daily SZ there. best wishes
Thank you AKT and the others who replied. I am confused with this set up now. When price touches the D1 SZ , it's still fresh and made a move down that caused a confirmation trade on the H4. so i would place my trade in that H4 confirmation within the D1 just tested zone since it had a move down. Won't this happen to all scenerios for a confirmation entry? HTF fresh zones will surely be tested after a move down for a confirmation trade on the entry TF. The only other way would be a SAF trade. Please clarify , thanks


And for trades like this : (See ss below)
Should i already consider it touched and unfresh , and delete my pending order tho it's missed by a few pips or just let it run if the rules still allows it. Thanks AKT !

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Cheers
Isaac
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  • #4,252
  • Jul 12, 2017 10:12am Jul 12, 2017 10:12am
Hello all. A small victory.
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  • #4,253
  • Jul 12, 2017 2:26pm Jul 12, 2017 2:26pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Nojak Thank you for sharing this trade. Something i think is worth thinking about is the fact that the weekly was in a sideways market when you shorted. Secondly and because of that, your trade though correct, had limited profit margin. As you can see, price reacted well on the initial arrival to your zone but then came back. So on the whole profit margin was a concern. You can see that on the daily as well best wishes
Dear Akt,

Thank you for response. So... I have to look in daily chart for profit margin as well, not only in H4 chart? The reason why you would not short there would be pour profit margin in daily chart?

Best wishes.
  • #4,254
  • Jul 12, 2017 2:44pm Jul 12, 2017 2:44pm
Dear Akt,

Based on our chat, could you show how to make correct and technical profit margin measurement. Would be nice to see scheme of this action.

Best wishes.
  • #4,255
  • Jul 12, 2017 7:35pm Jul 12, 2017 7:35pm
https://www.tradingview.com/x/SqzBVRq6/

my question is ,,,,could this of been a set and forget trade at the daily zone?...otherwise their is no conformation to short.....correct? even when I scroll to 4hr

all welcome to critique....
thanks all
  • #4,256
  • Jul 13, 2017 12:37am Jul 13, 2017 12:37am
Quoting Nojak
{quote} Dear Akt, Thank you for response. So... I have to look in daily chart for profit margin as well, not only in H4 chart? The reason why you would not short there would be pour profit margin in daily chart? Best wishes.
Hello Nojak

I was responding to your question. Generally speaking, no, the first measurement is on the 4hr chart.
In this case, looking again at your chart, the daily zone was created as prices continued to move higher through your stop

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,257
  • Jul 13, 2017 12:39am Jul 13, 2017 12:39am
Quoting tony1200
https://www.tradingview.com/x/SqzBVRq6/ my question is ,,,,could this of been a set and forget trade at the daily zone?...otherwise their is no conformation to short.....correct? even when I scroll to 4hr all welcome to critique.... thanks all
Hello tony1200
Thank your for sharing your chart with us

To be able to give you an accurate response, i think it will help the guys if you posted a top down multiple time frame analysis
because that is the one of the main ways to determine whether or not to use a set and forget method or not

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,258
  • Jul 13, 2017 12:41am Jul 13, 2017 12:41am
Quoting BogdanM.ua
Hello all. A small victory. {image}
Hello BogdanM.ua

Very nice. Well done.
How does that feel please, i mean, reaping the reward of good work?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,259
  • Jul 13, 2017 3:12am Jul 13, 2017 3:12am
Any one else seeing many short setups on the euro? It would not be wise to take all of them tho. I'm personally trying 2 shorts on 2 different euro pairs

http://imgur.com/a/ymZMB
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  • #4,260
  • Jul 13, 2017 3:27am Jul 13, 2017 3:27am
A trade I missed on the NZD CAD, price entered Daily demand and reacted on a very far away DZ on the 4H chart.
But this would've been a beauty, 1:3 RR almost hit ;-)
Maybe there will be another opportunity to enter, but I can't see one
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