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  • #4,221
  • Jul 10, 2017 8:02am Jul 10, 2017 8:02am
Good day
Everyone, AKT,

Can someone else teach me how should I determine Supply or Demand zone on Red color Highlighted?
There is too much noise information to cause me can't gauge which is SZ or DZ.

Please help.
Thank you.
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  • #4,222
  • Jul 10, 2017 10:57am Jul 10, 2017 10:57am
Quoting AndyNg
Good day Everyone, AKT, Can someone else teach me how should I determine Supply or Demand zone on Red color Highlighted? There is too much noise information to cause me can't gauge which is SZ or DZ. Please help. Thank you. {image}
Hello Andy,

It's better for you to take a look on other charts if you think this is one complicated one, you wouldn't want to mess with your mind to find where is the zones.
But I'd posted a few of these before and Michael has responded to it.
Below is the update for it, I hope it helps you out!

Best regards,
Sean
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  • #4,223
  • Jul 10, 2017 11:33am Jul 10, 2017 11:33am
Hello everyone.
EUR/JPY W1.
Is SZ correct? Is it time nowadays to start looking for short?
Please, your opinion.
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  • #4,224
  • Jul 10, 2017 11:45am Jul 10, 2017 11:45am
Quoting BogdanM.ua
{quote} Hello Akt. Dear Akt would like to know the reasons for the entrance. I analyzed several time frames and can't understand why there area of supply (she has not removed the demand zone)? Thanks in advance.
Hello BogdanM.ua
The trade was taken with prices in daily supply. That was the primary reason for taking it
As you will see, the zone was at daily supply.
Also, as one develops in S.A.D trading, there are some concepts that will need to be understood at a deeper level, such as using qualifiers for a zone eg only trading zones that have removed other zones. In this case, that qualifier was not used

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,225
  • Jul 10, 2017 11:47am Jul 10, 2017 11:47am
Quoting minosd
{quote} Thx Atk,great video. It made me think about my own approach to SAD trading...I looked at different Time frames, not to do a top down analysis, but to find supply and demand zones on the different time frames , besides I am only taking trades blindly (set and forget days in advance). The top down analysis you did is really good work! You are not entering blindly, but prefer to wait for some confirmation on a higher time frame, before searching for a good entry point on a lower time frame/ If've done some exercising, hereunder a GBP JPY trade...
Excellent Minosd.
We identified and took a similar trade last night.

Well done

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,226
  • Jul 10, 2017 11:54am Jul 10, 2017 11:54am
Quoting Yunvic
{quote} Dear Minosd, It seems to me that this SZ is not fresh. It originated from December 2016. Isn't it? And there are several DZs close beneath. Regards {image}
Hello Yunvic

If i may, i think you are referring to authenticity or association, rather than freshness
Freshness is determined by whether or not prices have returned to a zone since it was created.
Authenticity is determined by whether or not a zone was created as a result of the reaction of price to another zone
Authenticity is a more advanced concept and can be confusing for newer S.A.D traders. It is actually not that necessary except in some particular situations.

In this case, the daily SZ was fresh

best wishes
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  • #4,227
  • Jul 10, 2017 12:00pm Jul 10, 2017 12:00pm
Quoting amnrsln
Good day everyone. Hello Akt, I have a question regarding doji candles. Now from what I understand, doji candles are considered to be low odds when is included in a base (unless there are more than 3). The question is If dojis are formed in bases under HTF eg. Weekly or Monthly, is it considered a strong base?
Hello amnrsln

In S.A.D trading there is less if any concern about the "strength" of a zone as such, because there is no such concept within the methodology.
It is more concerned about the "quality" of a zone, an assessment that includes identifying the amount of time spent at a level.
The type of candle is also not that important. As you rightly said, it is the number of candles that is more relevant. So whether the basing consists of dojis, or marubozu candles means very little over all.

Hope that helps

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,228
  • Jul 10, 2017 12:04pm Jul 10, 2017 12:04pm
Quoting AndyNg
Hi AKT sir, I just start to noticed and read your thread by yesterday. I would like to ask, is there any group to join (Skype) for discussion or video courses?? I am so interested to learn Thank you.
Hello AndyNg
Good to meet you
Welcome to T.I.O.F

I am sure there will be enough here to get you started and keep you occupied.
I don't know if you have accessed the videos on the sister Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBf...ZS7J4oOx3hHl3g
If i may suggest, start with the back to basics videos. People have found it useful

Welcome again

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,229
  • Jul 10, 2017 1:26pm Jul 10, 2017 1:26pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Yunvic If i may, i think you are referring to authenticity or association, rather than freshness Freshness is determined by whether or not prices have returned to a zone since it was created. Authenticity is determined by whether or not a zone was created as a result of the reaction of price to another zone Authenticity is a more advanced concept and can be confusing for newer S.A.D traders. It is actually not that necessary except in some particular situations. In this case, the daily SZ was fresh best wishes{image}
Dear Akt, thank you for explanation. But excuse me, am I right that it is new fresh SZ nested inside previous wider SZ? Is it worse? Or it still has a high probability of short trade success?
Regards.
  • #4,230
  • Jul 10, 2017 3:31pm Jul 10, 2017 3:31pm
Quoting Yunvic
{quote} Dear Akt, thank you for explanation. But excuse me, am I right that it is new fresh SZ nested inside previous wider SZ? Is it worse? Or it still has a high probability of short trade success? Regards.
Hello Yunvic.
It had a high enough probability of success with enough of a profit margin as allowed by the decision matrix, so i merely executed the plan

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,231
  • Jul 10, 2017 3:51pm Jul 10, 2017 3:51pm
Hello everyone

Weekly analysis

best wishes

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  • #4,232
  • Edited 7:47pm Jul 10, 2017 7:19pm | Edited 7:47pm
Dear all,

Some question on usdcad

Monthly:
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Trendline is down, are we targeting the purple zone on downside? is it valid tested or un-tested?
My opinion its tested on 06-06-2016, do you think it will get deeper penetrate or get removed?

let me know what you guys think.

thanks
  • #4,233
  • Jul 11, 2017 12:12am Jul 11, 2017 12:12am
Hi AKT,

Thanks for your latest youtube video uploaded.
Based on the chart for SZ and DZ location.
I got some question need help.

Can you please correct me?
Thank you so much.
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  • #4,234
  • Jul 11, 2017 12:25am Jul 11, 2017 12:25am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello BogdanM.ua The trade was taken with prices in daily supply. That was the primary reason for taking it As you will see, the zone was at daily supply. Also, as one develops in S.A.D trading, there are some concepts that will need to be understood at a deeper level, such as using qualifiers for a zone eg only trading zones that have removed other zones. In this case, that qualifier was not used best wishes
Thank you very much Akt!
I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
  • #4,235
  • Jul 11, 2017 1:20am Jul 11, 2017 1:20am
Quoting EVolta
Dear all, Some question on usdcad Monthly: {image} Weekly: {image} Trendline is down, are we targeting the purple zone on downside? is it valid tested or un-tested? My opinion its tested on 06-06-2016, do you think it will get deeper penetrate or get removed? let me know what you guys think. thanks
IMO:
price might rotate back to previous value area.
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  • #4,236
  • Jul 11, 2017 3:42am Jul 11, 2017 3:42am
Hi everyone.
How do you know when to cancel a pending order?

For example :

I placed a short pending order after an ascending TL break on the H4. , Confirmation trade.
Price did not return to that area for awhile and kept going lower. After that , it finally returned to that area where your pending order is placed. But price has aready dropped so much before returning up. Will that short still be valid?

All this happened within the same or 2 WK candles. (At WK supply)
D1 dropped but did not break the ascending TL YET.
H4 broke and dropped. Then returned to untested Supply.

How will you know when to cancel a trade or not to ?
The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be.
  • #4,237
  • Jul 11, 2017 4:07am Jul 11, 2017 4:07am
Had a loss on the AUD/JPY.

Was this process correct, only that the outcome could not be controlled , or was this process wrong that supported the outcome of this trade?

Shorted at the yellow zone on the H4.
Would love to learn from my mistakes

H4 :
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  • #4,238
  • Jul 11, 2017 4:25am Jul 11, 2017 4:25am
Hello isaacpeh, Akt and fellow traders,

On AUD/JPY discussion,

I'm thinking the trend time frame, D1, is up trend and up momentum as drawn. So going short in the entry time frame, H4 is maybe lower probability.

Thanks

Quoting isaacpeh
Had a loss on the AUD/JPY. Was this process correct, only that the outcome could not be controlled , or was this process wrong that supported the outcome of this trade? Shorted at the yellow zone on the H4. Would love to learn from my mistakes H4 : {image} D1: {image} WK: {image}
"The markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solv
  • #4,239
  • Jul 11, 2017 5:27am Jul 11, 2017 5:27am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Weekly analysis best wishes https://youtu.be/ZTTxpB5XDuI
Thx for the reference :-DDD
It's Mino (Minotaur) with my initials S.D.

Br
Minosd
  • #4,240
  • Jul 11, 2017 6:15am Jul 11, 2017 6:15am
Quoting isaacpeh
Had a loss on the AUD/JPY. Was this process correct, only that the outcome could not be controlled , or was this process wrong that supported the outcome of this trade? Shorted at the yellow zone on the H4. Would love to learn from my mistakes H4 : {image} D1: {image} WK: {image}
I don't think you did anything wrong, check this Daily chart for where the supply zone was created
Maybe the only negative is that the supply zone does not stand out enough, there are more highs just above this zones high on the left
You could've taken the same trade on GBP JPY and with success.


Br
Minosd
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