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  • #10,401
  • Edited 5:06am Jul 9, 2017 3:54am | Edited 5:06am
Quoting OliveBranch
{quote} A mystery for me. My current charts look like as per below. Jakdan & Andy have said and have posted the SAR having attached onto EMA. They also say the SAR moved back a bar during Friday's session but haven't posted their chart of the SAR having moved. We have the before but not an after,...... so i am unsure how the SAR could move back 1 bar from it's attachment, i wasn't online to see this occur. So am also wondering if my chart is currently correct or incorrect.????? Any takers on explaining why a SAR, after attaching would move back...
Hi Oli, my chart is the same. My PC and mt4 wasn't on all of friday so I guess its to do with the data being lost

Edit: I'm only referring to the SAR attachment
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  • #10,402
  • Jul 9, 2017 7:34am Jul 9, 2017 7:34am
Quoting Retrogue
{quote} Hi Oli, my chart is the same. My PC and mt4 wasn't on all of friday so I guess its to do with the data being lost Edit: I'm only referring to the SAR attachment
OK. Tah Retrogue.
Not sure what you mean about data being lost when it all should be there....but our charts are the same, so all is good.
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  • #10,403
  • Jul 9, 2017 10:05am Jul 9, 2017 10:05am
Quoting OliveBranch
{quote} A mystery for me. My current charts look like as per below. Jakdan & Andy have said and have posted the SAR having attached onto EMA. They also say the SAR moved back a bar during Friday's session but haven't posted their chart of the SAR having moved. We have the before but not an after,...... so i am unsure how the SAR could move back 1 bar from it's attachment, i wasn't online to see this occur. So am also wondering if my chart is currently correct or incorrect.????? Any takers on explaining why a SAR, after attaching would move back...
Hi Oli,
Sure I'll give it a go. I believe the reason the Sar moved back a bar was because it was attached at the bottom of a bar that went higher high for the db and sar connection at the top. If the Sar would have stayed on the bottom of that bar then it would have appeared straight up because it had to connect at the top of that bar as well so it very politely stepped back a bar to stay in compliance with the matrix. And the bar after that went higher high as well and the sar did not return to it's old position but stayed locked in. So it is locked in unless it is forced and in this case it was pushed off that bar by a bigger force.

My two cents on this matter
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  • #10,404
  • Edited 3:33pm Jul 9, 2017 11:39am | Edited 3:33pm
Quoting SolitudeFx
{quote} Hi Oli, Sure I'll give it a go. I believe the reason the Sar moved back a bar was because it was attached at the bottom of a bar that went higher high for the db and sar connection at the top. If the Sar would have stayed on the bottom of that bar then it would have appeared straight up because it had to connect at the top of that bar as well so it very politely stepped back a bar to stay in compliance with the matrix. And the bar after that went higher high as well and the sar did not return to it's old position but stayed locked in. So...
From my experience with the Paradox, that is the only way I have seen a SAR move back, because the DB has taken control. You can't back test it because the SAR will move to the DB on a HH or LL than the SAR. If you look back you will see occasional 2 bar SAR and DB, and that's only because that is the High or Low of that swing before another connection the opposite way to the SAR. Hope that makes sense, but good explanation Soltitude.

The Paradox is out of the box, and it will also sometimes do things that are beyond the box, and that's the Matrix. And this kind of thing is one of those scenarios. You will never stop learning with this system, and by that I mean your starting point of competence ie earning money after successful demoing, is enhanced by a continued learning curve. Even Dana learns new things about this system.

Regards

Shaun
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  • #10,405
  • Jul 9, 2017 4:05pm Jul 9, 2017 4:05pm
Quoting shinny
{quote} From my experience with the Paradox, that is the only way I have seen a SAR move back, because the DB has taken control. You can't back test it because the SAR will move to the DB on a HH or LL than the SAR. If you look back you will see occasional 2 bar SAR and DB, and that's only because that is the High or Low of that swing before another connection the opposite way to the SAR. Hope that makes sense, but good explanation Soltitude. The Paradox is out of the box, and it will also sometimes do things that are beyond the box, and that's...
Thanks Shaun for adding that. I was just stating how I saw it and wasn't sure if I was on track or not. I have much to learn about the paradox. Sure helps to have the extra guidance.

Regards,
John
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  • #10,406
  • Jul 9, 2017 5:14pm Jul 9, 2017 5:14pm
Quoting SolitudeFx
{quote} Thanks Shaun for adding that. I was just stating how I saw it and wasn't sure if I was on track or not. I have much to learn about the paradox. Sure helps to have the extra guidance. Regards, John
John

Happy to help, keep up the good (and hard) work, your certainly on the right path.

All the best

Shaun
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  • #10,407
  • Jul 9, 2017 5:18pm Jul 9, 2017 5:18pm
Date: 09/07/2017 17:00 EST


News announcement: JPY BOJ Kuroda speaks at Branch Manager’s meeting at 19:30 EST. I need to wait after this is over to trade.
Daily:
ROMAR – support
EMA - support
PSAR - support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing up
Last EMA Alert Arrow up
Last DB Attachment up at 130.112 with magenta divergence
FIBO down


Notes: white is sliding under purple. PSAR and EMA are very strong for the up. Market is near the top of the FIBO.

2 HR:
ROMAR - support
EMA - support
PSAR - support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing down
Last EMA Alert Arrow up
Last DB Attachment up at 130.112 with green and magenta divergences
FIBO down

Notes: smooth sliding under white and purple. DB/SAR attached at the 0.00 FIBO level with magenta and green divergences.

1 HR:
ROMAR - support
EMA - support
PSAR –support
Notes: white crossed purple for the down. Smooth at the crossing with purple for the down. Market between EMA as support and purple.

Final notes: the market is currently in an uptrend with EMA/ROMAR synched on all three charts. The 2HR chart is going into a slider with smooth under purple and white at the crossing with purple. The market is in between EMA as support and purple resistance in the 2HR chart so I need to wait for a breakout. It is also at the top of the 2HR and Daily FIBOS with DB/SAR attached on the 2HR with both divergences and turning sideways. I will wait for now because we could be possibly heading for a reversal. To go long I will wait for an open candle above purple and smooth sliding below purple for the continuation of the uptrend. To go short I would be looking for the PSAR flip setting a consolidated downtrend towards ROMAR.
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  • #10,408
  • Jul 10, 2017 2:12am Jul 10, 2017 2:12am
10/7 - trading plan
DAILY
ROMAR: Support
EMA: support
Parabolic: support
Purple ,White and smooth pointing up. MACD UP , Fibo RED. Last DB at 130.27
NOTES : Strong uptrend
2H
ROMAR: support
EMA: support
Parabolic: support
Fibo red, MACD down. Last DB+SAR at 130.27 at current candle.
NOTES : Strong uptrend, with ROMAR out of the trading zone (BB's)

1H
ROMAR: support
EMA: support
Parabolic: support
Notes : fibo red ,MACD down. 4 horsemen UP

FINAL NOTES : We are in an uptrend, the fact that the 2H ROMAR is out of the trading zone and the last DB+SAR suggest a possible small move down.
The rules with an uptrend are clear: BUY FROM SUPPORT for 40/40
Entry : long at EMA 2H touch for 40/40.
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  • #10,409
  • Jul 10, 2017 5:03am Jul 10, 2017 5:03am
Entered long as per plan
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  • #10,410
  • Jul 10, 2017 5:59am Jul 10, 2017 5:59am
Quoting Adaptation
Date: 09/07/2017 17:00 EST News announcement: JPY BOJ Kuroda speaks at Branch Managers meeting at 19:30 EST. I need to wait after this is over to trade. Daily: ROMAR support EMA - support PSAR - support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing up Last EMA Alert Arrow up Last DB Attachment up at 130.112 with magenta divergence FIBO down Notes: white is sliding under purple. PSAR and EMA are very strong for the up. Market is near the top of the FIBO. 2 HR: ROMAR - support EMA - support PSAR - support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing down Last EMA Alert Arrow...
Entry: entered long at the opening of the 05:00 EST candle from EMA as support.

Rules: rules for uptrends
1. ROMAR and EMA must be in sync on all three charts to go long (yes) post 1680
2. Sync for both ROMAR and EMA uptrend on both the 1 HR and 2 HR to enter a trade (yes) post 1680
3. Trades are made from support area to go long (yes) entered from EMA post 1680
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  • #10,411
  • Jul 10, 2017 2:41pm Jul 10, 2017 2:41pm
A bit of a late one guys been very busy and just got sorted.

Date: 10/07/17 6.52 GMT EUR/JPY

Daily: Open above horsemen
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Support
PSAR – Support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing: up
Last EMA Alert Arrow: Up
Last DB Attachment: 130.264 top
Fibo: Down

Notes: The Daily has the 4 horsemen heading flat to up purple on top, with the DB/SAR attached at the high just above the 0 red fibo with thistle tag. The magenta tag and divergence are two bars back @130.112 (red fibo) Market rising MACD getting weaker.

2 HR:
OPEN PRICE – 129.872 – 130.224
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Support
PSAR – Support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing: down
Last EMA Alert Arrow: Up
Last DB Attachment: 130.264 top
Fibo: Down

Notes: The 2 hour has the four horsemen heading North, in the correct order for the up and with the Romar trend. Romar now out of the trading area below Lower BB at 61.8 fib. BB’s are both flattening out. DB/sar and Both divergence at the High of 130.264, with Magenta tag. fib red, MACD just below the 0,

1 HR:
ROMAR - Support
EMA –Support
PSAR – Support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing: Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow: Up
Last DB Attachment: N/A
Fibo: Down

Notes: The 1 hour has the four horsemen heading up with the Romar trend which is also out of the trading area lower BB which are closing in.

Final Notes for all three charts: the market is in up trend. All Horsemen heading North. Market testing the 0 fib but no real sign of weakness apart from MACD D and H2 and BB’S not opening up.
Entry:
Consolidation:
Long: Waiting to go long off H2 support SAR/PASR
Short:

NEWS: No major news today and market steady after G20
After trade notes: Went long off H2 SAR/PSAR (BOTH ARROWS IN THE SAME BAR AND DOWN IS A CONCERN?) BB’ also closing
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  • #10,412
  • Jul 10, 2017 3:42pm Jul 10, 2017 3:42pm
Trading plan for July 10/17

Daily

Romar:Support
Ema:Support
Parabolic:Support
Ema Arrow: Up
Macd Arrow:Up
Fibo:Red
Db/Sar: Connected at 130.386

Notes: Purple slider over white. Current bar
retraced with the db/sar divergence at the
0 fibo.

2 Hour

Romar:Support
Ema:Resistance
Parabolic: Resistance
Ema Arrow: Down
Macd Arrow: Down
Fibo:Red
Db/Sar: Db connected with sar at the top. Sar
broke away stopped at the 23.6

Notes: Consolidation swing starting toward
Romar with the Horsemen.Db/sar at the top
showing seperate with divergence.

1 Hour

Romar: Support
Ema: Resistance
Parabolic: Resistance
Ema Arrow: Down
Macd Arrow: Down
Fibo:Red
Db/Sar: connected at the bottom and 61.8 fibo

Notes: Ema slider with parabolic holding resistance.hidden divergence
at the top.

Final Notes: With the H2 parabolic flip we are now in
compliance for consolidation rules. Over 40 pips to bollinger bands support.
Daily candle retraced from new high resistance. Will go short at
the h2 resistance.

Rules: 1.H2 parabolic flip put market in consolidation so trading is both ways.
2.Pipcount to support is 40+ pips.
3.H2 Parabolic locked in with new open bar
4.No red news

Entry: Went short at 130.00
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  • #10,413
  • Edited 4:48pm Jul 10, 2017 4:33pm | Edited 4:48pm
Session New York: EUR - JPY 100717
1730hrs EST

Daily
ROMAR: Support
EMA: Support
Parabolic: Support
Notes: Four Horsemen up. DB attached 100pips below 0.00 FIBO. FIBO Red.

H2
ROMAR: Support
EMA: Support/Resistance dependant on current candle finish position
Parabolic: Resistance (Flipped down current candle)
Notes: Four Horsemen down. Purple crossing EMA down. DB and MAGENTA/Green DIVERGENCE attached 0pips below 0.0 FIBO. Trend EMA arrow down. MACD down for last 14 hrs. FIBO Red. ROMAR out of trading zone

H1
ROMAR: Support
EMA: Resistance
Parabolic: Resistance
Notes: Four Horsemen down, under EMA, currently in a slider. Parabolics down, Trend EMA arrow down. MACD down. Fibo Red. Romar out of trading zone

Final Notes: both the H2 and H1 charts have had ROMAR out of the trading zone since H2 DB/SAR attached at 0.0 Fib therefore we have been in consolidation since that point. Current Parabolic Flip is not yet confirmed, however too close to middle for a trade to either of the BBs ie. A risky 40pips.

RULE(s) when ROMAR is out of BBs then we are in Ranging. In Ranging we do not trade from the middle, await a confirmed top or bottom and trade a resistance/support from there.

Adjustments:

Entry: Await confirmed new top or bottom in Ranging mode. Trade from new resistance or support.
Result:

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  • #10,414
  • Jul 10, 2017 5:06pm Jul 10, 2017 5:06pm
Date: Monday July 10th
NEWS: Orange USD news Tuesday 10:00 & 12:30 EST, otherwise yellow.

Daily:

ROMAR - Support
EMA - Support
Psar - Support

Checklist:

Last MACD 0 Crossing - Up
Last EMA Alert Arrow - Up
Last DB Attachment - Top
Last SAR Attachment - Top
Fibonacci - Red

Notes: Imbalance present with the last 2, including current, candles being above Purple. New daily candle in several hours. Therefore, the market will either move down
or sideways in order to restore balance. 4 horsemen are support. DB/SAR attached at top 0 Fibonacci. New daily candle imbalanced with Purple. MACD above 0 but decreasing.

H2:

ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
Psar - Resistance

Checklist:

Last MACD 0 Crossing - Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow - Down
Last DB Attachment - Up
Last SAR Attachment - Down
Fibonacci - Red

Notes: ROMAR below the lower band and out of the trading area. Lower Bollinger Band is support. Parabolic flipped on last candle, and with the close of the 16:00 candle, and the open of the new 18:00 candle, it is set in stone. MACD well below 0 and has been decreasing. 4 horsemen in swing down but EMA is still below Purple. 23.6 is the nearest Fibo level and is support. Parabolics on the H2 having flipped, we are in consolidation. EMA arrow down set in stone.

H1:

ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
Psar - Resistance

Checklist:

Last MACD 0 Crossing - Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow - Down
Last DB Attachment - null
Fibonacci - Red

Notes: ROMAR is support. ROMAR below the lower bollinger band and is out of the trading area. Parabolics holding resistance, EMA and MA arrow (coral) last showing is down. Bollinger Bands are within the 0 and 100 of the Fibo. FiboContourUp and FiboContourDown show a consolidation. MACD below 0.

Final Notes: H2 Parabolics against ROMAR trend. We are in consolidation. Current daily candle as well as the previous daily candle are imbalanced with Purple, and market must move either down or sideways to regain balance. Mondays daily candle went up above the previous Fibo high of 130.112, but retraced to open back inside the Fibo. H2 Sar attached on bottom, waiting on the DB which is still attached on top. The double top as illustrated by the Parabolics last week still indicates a lower low in the future.

Entry: Short

Short: Open candle below EMA, EMA at the crossing of Purple, 4 horsemen aligned down.

rules(s):

In consolidation, trading is both ways.

Wait for candle close of Parabolic flip, while candle is still open it may flip back and forth.
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  • #10,415
  • Edited Jul 11, 2017 3:26am Jul 10, 2017 8:07pm | Edited Jul 11, 2017 3:26am
Quoting Andiroo
Session New York: EUR - JPY 100717 1730hrs EST Daily ROMAR: Support EMA: Support Parabolic: Support Notes: Four Horsemen up. DB attached 100pips below 0.00 FIBO. FIBO Red. H2 ROMAR: Support EMA: Support/Resistance dependant on current candle finish position Parabolic: Resistance (Flipped down current candle) Notes: Four Horsemen down. Purple crossing EMA down. DB and MAGENTA/Green DIVERGENCE attached 0pips below 0.0 FIBO. Trend EMA arrow down. MACD down for last 14 hrs. FIBO Red. ROMAR out of trading zone H1 ROMAR: Support EMA: Resistance Parabolic:...
Adjustments: None

Entry: Long (edit typo - Short) - Awaited hit on Parabolic @0200hrs (sorry 2100hrs EST) as per above Trading Plan 40sl/40tp.

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  • #10,416
  • Jul 11, 2017 2:19am Jul 11, 2017 2:19am
Quoting jakdan
A bit of a late one guys been very busy and just got sorted. Date: 10/07/17 6.52 GMT EUR/JPY Daily: Open above horsemen ROMAR - Support EMA - Support PSAR Support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing: up Last EMA Alert Arrow: Up Last DB Attachment: 130.264 top Fibo: Down Notes: The Daily has the 4 horsemen heading flat to up purple on top, with the DB/SAR attached at the high just above the 0 red fibo with thistle tag. The magenta tag and divergence are two bars back @130.112 (red fibo) Market rising MACD getting weaker. 2 HR: OPEN PRICE 129.872 130.224...
Self evaluation: took 40 from the market. went long off SAR/PSAR maybe waited a little too long for entry, next candle as the arrows were flicking on and off and was unsure of the consequences, however the main rule was to stay with the trend. took longer than expected but got there in the end.
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  • #10,417
  • Jul 11, 2017 2:34am Jul 11, 2017 2:34am
Quoting SolitudeFx
Trading plan for July 10/17 Daily Romar:Support Ema:Support Parabolic:Support Ema Arrow: Up Macd Arrow:Up Fibo:Red Db/Sar: Connected at 130.386 Notes: Purple slider over white. Current bar retraced with the db/sar divergence at the 0 fibo. 2 Hour Romar:Support Ema:Resistance Parabolic: Resistance Ema Arrow: Down Macd Arrow: Down Fibo:Red Db/Sar: Db connected with sar at the top. Sar broke away stopped at the 23.6 Notes: Consolidation swing starting toward Romar with the Horsemen.Db/sar at the top showing seperate with divergence. 1 Hour Romar: Support...
Self evaluation
I took this trade off resistance going short with the h2 parabolic flip. I see where I failed in this trade and although it turned out -40 pips I can see the reasons why it did not turn out and I will outline them below.

1. The smooth white crossing was not showing the ema purple crossing. The ema purple cross was much later giving risk to a slider.

2. The ema purple crossing was very shallow giving way to ema sliding under smooth

3. The Daily had just come out of a purple white slider with fresh upward momentum and not enough pip count as well to support.

I hope I have covered the errors in this trade.

Regards,
John
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  • #10,418
  • Jul 11, 2017 3:02am Jul 11, 2017 3:02am
[quote=SolitudeFx;10072061]{quote} Self evaluation I took this trade off resistance going short with the h2 parabolic flip. I see where I failed...

Hi Solitude,
Am unable to comment on specifics to help you. Am the wrong person for the job.

However, I reckon if we all look again at this post https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...5#post10055945
& then look at the very next post under that one, we'll see something tangible that may help us improve.

For myself these days after many helpful interventions from the seniors, i look to see if i can identify the scenario 1st. Then move from there.
If i am not able to identify the scenario at the end of the plan notes, i stand down and study because what works in one scenario will not work for another.

Hope this helps,

Oli
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  • #10,419
  • Jul 11, 2017 6:25am Jul 11, 2017 6:25am
Quoting pipon
10/7 - trading plan DAILY ROMAR: Support EMA: support Parabolic: support Purple ,White and smooth pointing up. MACD UP , Fibo RED. Last DB at 130.27 NOTES : Strong uptrend 2H ROMAR: support EMA: support P. The rules with an uptrend are clear: BUY FROM SUPPORT for 40/40 Entry : long at EMA 2H touch for 40/40.
My trade is running for 27 hours now, and it is 20-25 pips in profit. It got up to 38.5 pips about 4.5 hours ago.
I hope my question will not irritate dove but I must ask:
While the 40/40 rule is very clear, is there any time frame and/or pips in profit that we can move the stop to entry point ?
I do believe in the trade and plan (Could have waited for a Parabolic touch instead of the EMA touch but that is hindsight), but after 27 hours we are not in the moment, and if market will change then getting a -40 pips on a trade that was a pip and a half away from TP is a shame.

I trade DEMO so I will not change the stop until I get an answer,as this question is for learning purpose only
Thanks
  • #10,420
  • Jul 11, 2017 7:27am Jul 11, 2017 7:27am
Quoting pipon
{quote} My trade is running for 27 hours now, and it is 20-25 pips in profit. It got up to 38.5 pips about 4.5 hours ago. I hope my question will not irritate dove but I must ask: While the 40/40 rule is very clear, is there any time frame and/or pips in profit that we can move the stop to entry point ? I do believe in the trade and plan (Could have waited for a Parabolic touch instead of the EMA touch but that is hindsight), but after 27 hours we are not in the moment, and if market will change then getting a -40 pips on a trade that was a pip...
A fair question. Dana has stated that a trading plan is valid for 24 hours. So perhaps it then follows that an open trade is rightfully "reevaluated" after 24 hours as well...be it demo or live.
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