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  • #4,201
  • Jul 6, 2017 2:04pm Jul 6, 2017 2:04pm
Quoting alexelale
Hello AKT and members! Just some XAUUSD idea... Comments appreciated Curve: D: {image} H4: {image} H1: {image}
Hello alexelale
Thank you for sharing your idea.

One observation if i may please, the 60min demand zone you highlight is not fresh. That doesn't mean it will not work, that is not something anyone can know
However one of the major considerations within the methodology is in ensuring the zones are as fresh as possible.
It may be something to consider, to wait for new zones to form on smaller timeframes at that level and then look to engage those

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,202
  • Jul 6, 2017 2:05pm Jul 6, 2017 2:05pm
Hello everyone

The US index, the Nasdaq 100,

before and after.

best wishes
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  • #4,203
  • Jul 7, 2017 9:30am Jul 7, 2017 9:30am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello alexelale Thank you for sharing your idea. One observation if i may please, the 60min demand zone you highlight is not fresh. That doesn't mean it will not work, that is not something anyone can know However one of the major considerations within the methodology is in ensuring the zones are as fresh as possible. It may be something to consider, to wait for new zones to form on smaller timeframes at that level and then look to engage those best wishes

Hello AKT! You had reason, went down to 15min timeframe and managed to enter a second grade after being stopped out at first.

Risk reward 1:7

I understand if a zone is not fresh I can look for fresh levels inside that zone in lower timeframes no?
  • #4,204
  • Jul 7, 2017 1:26pm Jul 7, 2017 1:26pm
Hey guys, when you find good zones like these (ignore the quality of the zones in the pic)

do you trade them both?
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  • #4,205
  • Jul 7, 2017 3:26pm Jul 7, 2017 3:26pm
Quoting yonswac
Hey guys, when you find good zones like these (ignore the quality of the zones in the pic) do you trade them both? {image}
Hello yonswac
Welcome, i don't believe we have met
Good to meet you, Welcome to T.I.O.F

If i may, the question you ask is very difficult to answer because the decision to trade any particular zone always depends on a number of factors, some of which have nothing to do with the zone directly. Context is very important.

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,206
  • Jul 7, 2017 3:32pm Jul 7, 2017 3:32pm
hello everyone

AUDUSD....before and after

best wishes
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  • #4,207
  • Jul 7, 2017 7:30pm Jul 7, 2017 7:30pm
Hi AKT, nice too meet you too

for the sake of example

in this picture you posted, will you trade all the supply zones?

regards.
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  • #4,208
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:45pm Jul 7, 2017 11:45pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello yonswac Welcome, i don't believe we have met Good to meet you, Welcome to T.I.O.F If i may, the question you ask is very difficult to answer because the decision to trade any particular zone always depends on a number of factors, some of which have nothing to do with the zone directly. Context is very important. Best wishes
Dear Akt,
It is a very interesting point. Till now I believed that the only reason for the price to move is imbalance which we see as zones and curves betveen them. What are others reasons? What do you mean as a number of factors and context? Could you clarify, please? I think it might be important for many traders here.
Best regards.
  • #4,209
  • Jul 8, 2017 1:08am Jul 8, 2017 1:08am
Quoting yonswac
Hi AKT, nice too meet you too for the sake of example in this picture you posted, will you trade all the supply zones? regards. {image}
Hello yonswac & yunvic

the question you both ask is to do with the foundation of S.A.D trading.....Multiple Time frame Analysis. That is a topic that is very important to me and other S.A.D traders because it is the concept on which the methodology is based.
For those who have been in here and read a view of the posts and seen the charts posted, they know that Multiple time frame analysis is a must.
I can not make a trading decision without looking at a market through different lenses.
It is the same market, viewed from different time based perspectives. Just like when you do an MRI of someone's brain, you are looking at the same brain but at different sliced levels. In the case of trading, time, is the knife used to make the cut so to speak.

Yonswac, that is why i said it is virtually impossible to answer your question accurately about whether i would trade all the zones on the chart you posted earlier or on my chart that you posted above. I would have to know the context in which the trade was being taken.

Yunvic, that context and other factors i speak of, include things such as trend, the quality of the level itself, potential profit margin available, etc.
Each one of those is a topic on its on and there are videos and posts where some of them have been discussed extensively by and with the fellas in here.

For example, if prices return to the supply zone on your chart Yonswac. To consider the zone(s) at all, you should ask the question, what is the trend as prices are returning? if i take this short for example, what is in the way of my trade in terms of buyers, etc?

Multiple time frame analysis
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best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #4,210
  • Jul 8, 2017 1:25am Jul 8, 2017 1:25am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello yonswac & yunvic the question you both ask is to do with the foundation of S.A.D trading.....Multiple Time frame Analysis. That is a topic that is very important to me and other S.A.D traders because it is the concept on which the methodology is based. For those who have been in here and read a view of the posts and seen the charts posted, they know that Multiple time frame analysis is a must. I can not make a trading decision without looking at a market through different lenses. It is the same market, viewed from different time based...
Dear Akt,
Thank you very much!
  • #4,211
  • Jul 8, 2017 4:49am Jul 8, 2017 4:49am
Thank you AKT for the explanation.
  • #4,212
  • Jul 8, 2017 6:01am Jul 8, 2017 6:01am
Hello Akt,
Really enjoyed your video above,
post4,209,

Your sharing lovely indept analysis/information, pratically doing all the work for us, I feel so lazy watching your analysis.

Thank you keep it up and God bless.

Ps: It is hard to catch those falling knives, I suppose thats what the 95% or so find hard to do.

And like you said, you dont care what the trend is doing at those very important levels, maybe thats another reason loosers keep on loosing,
they keep those friends (trends) for too long.
Really nice post,
Thank you again
  • #4,213
  • Jul 8, 2017 10:21am Jul 8, 2017 10:21am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello yonswac & yunvic the question you both ask is to do with the foundation of S.A.D trading.....Multiple Time frame Analysis. That is a topic that is very important to me and other S.A.D traders because it is the concept on which the methodology is based. For those who have been in here and read a view of the posts and seen the charts posted, they know that Multiple time frame analysis is a must. I can not make a trading decision without looking at a market through different lenses. It is the same market, viewed from different time based...
I think a lot of new S.A.D traders get confused with trend and momentum. At least I was. Had to watch the videos over and over before I start to understand the difference
  • #4,214
  • Jul 8, 2017 10:29am Jul 8, 2017 10:29am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello yonswac & yunvic the question you both ask is to do with the foundation of S.A.D trading.....Multiple Time frame Analysis. That is a topic that is very important to me and other S.A.D traders because it is the concept on which the methodology is based. For those who have been in here and read a view of the posts and seen the charts posted, they know that Multiple time frame analysis is a must. I can not make a trading decision without looking at a market through different lenses. It is the same market, viewed from different time based...
AKT Sir,

Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu sooooooooo much for posting this video sir.....my only wish why did i not see ur forum 2 years ago...oh well its never too late...but i did used you concept and teaching and goodness me it turned out to one of the best trades I had for a long time.....still learning but finally i feel like i am on the right track..

Thank you for helping us all..
  • #4,215
  • Jul 8, 2017 9:25pm Jul 8, 2017 9:25pm
Hi AKT sir,

I just start to noticed and read your thread by yesterday.
I would like to ask, is there any group to join (Skype) for discussion or video courses??

I am so interested to learn
Thank you.
  • #4,216
  • Jul 9, 2017 1:08am Jul 9, 2017 1:08am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone The US index, the Nasdaq 100, before and after. best wishes{image}{image}
Hello Akt. Dear Akt would like to know the reasons for the entrance. I analyzed several time frames and can't understand why there area of supply (she has not removed the demand zone)? Thanks in advance.
I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
  • #4,217
  • Jul 9, 2017 6:54am Jul 9, 2017 6:54am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello yonswac & yunvic the question you both ask is to do with the foundation of S.A.D trading.....Multiple Time frame Analysis. That is a topic that is very important to me and other S.A.D traders because it is the concept on which the methodology is based. For those who have been in here and read a view of the posts and seen the charts posted, they know that Multiple time frame analysis is a must. I can not make a trading decision without looking at a market through different lenses. It is the same market, viewed from different time based...
Thx Atk,great video. It made me think about my own approach to SAD trading...I looked at different Time frames, not to do a top down analysis, but to find supply and demand zones on the different time frames , besides I am only taking trades blindly (set and forget days in advance).
The top down analysis you did is really good work! You are not entering blindly, but prefer to wait for some confirmation on a higher time frame, before searching for a good entry point on a lower time frame/
If've done some exercising, hereunder a GBP JPY trade opportunity for next week. Thx for the feed-back, any comment is welcome/
Myself took the blind entry at 147.45, targetting 144.95 or lower.
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  • #4,218
  • Jul 9, 2017 11:04am Jul 9, 2017 11:04am
Quoting minosd
{quote} Thx Atk,great video. It made me think about my own approach to SAD trading...I looked at different Time frames, not to do a top down analysis, but to find supply and demand zones on the different time frames , besides I am only taking trades blindly (set and forget days in advance). The top down analysis you did is really good work! You are not entering blindly, but prefer to wait for some confirmation on a higher time frame, before searching for a good entry point on a lower time frame/ If've done some exercising, hereunder a GBP JPY trade...
Hello! I'm sure AKT can give you better advise! But if you allow me I would like to note that even if all seems pretty correct (I also looked at this pair while preparing the week ahead), I decided to delete it from my watch list due to the low risk.reward chance.

If you look closer, check the multiple demand zones on H8 chart, even if you entry would be right, your probable TP would be around 146.750 leading you a trade of around 1:2-1:3 risk reward ratio.

Always make sure to follow your trading plan, if that tells you to trade 1:2-1:3 risk reward go for it

I'm here learning as well so I just dropped my thoughts, of course comments and corrections are welcome

Hope to have helped.

  • #4,219
  • Jul 10, 2017 4:12am Jul 10, 2017 4:12am
Quoting minosd
{quote} Thx Atk,great video. It made me think about my own approach to SAD trading...I looked at different Time frames, not to do a top down analysis, but to find supply and demand zones on the different time frames , besides I am only taking trades blindly (set and forget days in advance). The top down analysis you did is really good work! You are not entering blindly, but prefer to wait for some confirmation on a higher time frame, before searching for a good entry point on a lower time frame/ If've done some exercising, hereunder a GBP JPY trade...
Dear Minosd,
It seems to me that this SZ is not fresh. It originated from December 2016. Isn't it? And there are several DZs close beneath.
Regards
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  • #4,220
  • Jul 10, 2017 5:38am Jul 10, 2017 5:38am
Good day everyone.

Hello Akt, I have a question regarding doji candles.

Now from what I understand, doji candles are considered to be low odds when is included in a base (unless there are more than 3). The question is

If dojis are formed in bases under HTF eg. Weekly or Monthly, is it considered a strong base?
i just want to make 10% gain a month.
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