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  • #4,741
  • Jul 17, 2022 7:28am Jul 17, 2022 7:28am
Quoting maneverfix
{quote} @badcatstealf, drawing MSJ Grid is very easy in TV, most important part is getting "IMPULSE" right. Search for posts by Swede in this thread it self, he has made numerous posts on impulse. Here is step 1: Find an impulse and draw Gann Box {image} Step 2: Draw Gann Fan {image} add 2 trendlines shown in thick black {image} done.

Could you check my drawing on this stock https://www.tradingview.com/x/0YdMDFfk/ ?
  • #4,742
  • Jul 17, 2022 9:45am Jul 17, 2022 9:45am
Quoting badcatstealf
{quote} Could you check my drawing on this stock https://www.tradingview.com/x/0YdMDFfk/ ?
Perfect, key is finding impulse.
  • #4,743
  • Edited 3:56pm Jul 18, 2022 9:37am | Edited 3:56pm
Quoting Garry119
{quote} {image}
Hello Garry;

I wonder if I can ask you more about this Vadimcha method? I've tried a google and can't find any information other than the name mentioned here a few times on Forexfactory. I've never heard of this before but what I see on your chart samples looks similar to something else I've seen that's been making me super curious, but again I had no access to that information or knowledge. I've seen there's an mt4 indicator here too, but if we're on a different trading platform, can this be learned to be drawn/calculated manually too?

Would really appreciate any information you can share with me. I can't DM, since I'm newly registered here but if you can, I'd be happy to talk private if you prefer too.

Cheers,
  • #4,744
  • Edited 11:10am Jul 18, 2022 10:48am | Edited 11:10am
closed 3 out of 5 trades.....runners will be longer term.....this was all based on the block trade area on the 4 hour chart, divergence on the 1 min, plus the stop hunt ....+22, +21 +26...so far...stops moved to break even
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  • Jul 18, 2022 11:40am Jul 18, 2022 11:40am
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  • Jul 18, 2022 11:43am Jul 18, 2022 11:43am
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  • #4,747
  • Jul 18, 2022 11:50am Jul 18, 2022 11:50am
closing the last two. may add more later but for now the 4 hour candle is about to close and I expect a retrace , so out with another +35 +33

A very good day indeed...
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  • #4,748
  • Jul 18, 2022 11:57am Jul 18, 2022 11:57am
Quoting Swede
closing the last two. may add more later but for now the 4 hour candle is about to close and I expect a retrace , so out with another +35 +33 A very good day indeed... {image}
Very very good trading my friend
Simple and boy so effective
  • #4,749
  • Edited 1:02pm Jul 19, 2022 12:44pm | Edited 1:02pm
they say history repeats itself...and that was certainly true with cable today...came right back to yesterdays price, with one notable difference, we had a crystal clear stop hunt and for the scalper its a scalpers delight...so took more lots, smaller size and the trades have now been closed for the day....And yes, I took a little heat before placing stops...didnt expect the second test...anyway this was not smart, could have rocketed upward and created a loss by the time one reacts.... moral of the story we never know what is around the corner....lol

caution at this point....clearly there has been strong upward movement, may clear and head north.. so this is just for scalping, not overnight holds etc.
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  • #4,750
  • Jul 19, 2022 5:37pm Jul 19, 2022 5:37pm
Quoting Swede
they say history repeats itself...and that was certainly true with cable today...came right back to yesterdays price, with one notable difference, we had a crystal clear stop hunt and for the scalper its a scalpers delight...so took more lots, smaller size and the trades have now been closed for the day....And yes, I took a little heat before placing stops...didnt expect the second test...anyway this was not smart, could have rocketed upward and created a loss by the time one reacts.... moral of the story we never know what is around the...
Swede
White Flat Bottoms
Red Flat Tops
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  • #4,751
  • Jul 19, 2022 6:42pm Jul 19, 2022 6:42pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede White Flat Bottoms Red Flat Tops {image}
Good charts Dave....when you take everything into consideration, watching for short entries is coming to an end, unless scalping that is. I just use the 4 hour with normal candles and 1 min with Heiken for entries at key areas, find too many charts confuses the old guy...
  • #4,752
  • Jul 20, 2022 10:51am Jul 20, 2022 10:51am
4 for 4 in the past hour....+17 +12 +21 +14
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  • #4,753
  • Jul 20, 2022 12:29pm Jul 20, 2022 12:29pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede It's well worth setting all your Intra day charts to the 4 day Octave or 4 day Cycle This lets you see how you arrive at the various levels and if with have enough Daily Range left to break them Allways looking left of course Enclosed pic of all time frames set to 4 day {image}
Could you expand on 4 day octave....I’m a bit thick and not sure....how do you accomplish that setting? And which MM indicator are you using....I can see I need to knuckle down on this more...
  • #4,754
  • Jul 20, 2022 12:55pm Jul 20, 2022 12:55pm
Dave, Parisboy.........I have to thank both of you for staying true to what you believe. I go to a lot of forums taking in some useful info at times, but some of what is posted is just so incredibly worthless it should be removed before another unsuspecting newbie blows his account. Yes, there are some incredible traders here also, but because they talk with honesty and refuse to tickle the ears of the listener, they are abandoned at the first sign of a price challenge. Instead, the newbie wants someone to present a dream and to hell with reality, reality is boring, they want the dream without the work involved.

And some of those so called gurus seem need the attention of those with a hundred questions, while offering riddles instead of real answers......grrrrr!

Anyway, my rant for today, thanks for listening. (Therapy)
  • #4,755
  • Jul 20, 2022 2:19pm Jul 20, 2022 2:19pm
Quoting maneverfix
{quote} Perfect, key is finding impulse.

Hi again.

When their is impulse upside, shall I draw the gann fann from left top as I did here https://www.tradingview.com/x/uOMqrfqg/ or left bottom corner of the gann box? I am confused. What is the rule which market follows ?
  • #4,756
  • Edited 4:23pm Jul 20, 2022 2:45pm | Edited 4:23pm
Quoting Swede
Dave, Parisboy.........I have to thank both of you for staying true to what you believe. I go to a lot of forums taking in some useful info at times, but some of what is posted is just so incredibly worthless it should be removed before another unsuspecting newbie blows his account. Yes, there are some incredible traders here also, but because they talk with honesty and refuse to tickle the ears of the listener, they are abandoned at the first sign of a price challenge. Instead, the newbie wants someone to present a dream and to hell with reality,...
Thanks for your nice words Swede.

As you know I had recently some head-ons about Gann about apprentice gurus, bullshitters and manipulators. Obviously they are not 100% so,but they present more or less the characteristics?.

After years of various experiences I have listed some rules to detect a guru, a bullshitter or a manipulator or a combinaison of the three.

First there is no guru without groupies and ONLY the groupies, the followers , the suckers create the guru.

Gurus and bullshitters NEVER answer directly a question and above all NEVER a Technical question NEVER on the methods they use.

How is builld the bullshit ? Gurus and bullshitters write tons of common sense trading generalities on tradings, stocks, the market that you cannot criticize because they are true. And we use them too.

Follow the trend
The trend is my friend
always use a stop loss
buy low , sell high and conversely
after an uptrend yo have a downtrend

etc etc The general idea is to multiply variations on this themes (and similar)

The basic principle for Gurus and Bullshitters is double " find yourself' /" do your own cooking"

Why ? because by doing youself (whatever the guru / bullshitter method you use the more you work on, the more time, hope and sometimes money you invest into, the more you are involved and the most difficult for you it is to agree that it does not work or at leat that it does not work as you hoped.

The second term "do your own cooking" is linked to the fact that all what say and write gurus and bulshitters HAS TO BE ambiguous, , unclear, general and allowing multiple interpretations.

By allowing multiple interpretations a guru / bullshitter can stay above the discussion / controversy and every body can follow the guru having its own idea on what the guru really thinks.

The guru de facto selects among groupies some stringers which propagate the good word, stimulate the enthousiasm , the believings and the energy of the simple believers . Their second task is to detect, isolate, fight and expel the unbelievers , those who ask questions , underline contradictions etc.

Was Gann a Guru ? a bullshitter ? a manipulator ?

My answer is YES (to be followed)
  • #4,757
  • Jul 20, 2022 3:11pm Jul 20, 2022 3:11pm
Quoting badcatstealf
{quote} Hi again. When their is impulse upside, shall I draw the gann fann from left top as I did here https://www.tradingview.com/x/uOMqrfqg/ or left bottom corner of the gann box? I am confused. What is the rule which market follows ?
There is quite a bit of information in the Michael Jenkins thread on properly drawing and measuring out the impulse wave. I looked at the one you presented a few post back and the most powerful, the 1 x1 was bang on...look what happened to price as the level was challenged. So, the complete wave should be measured if I hear you correctly.
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  • #4,758
  • Jul 20, 2022 3:16pm Jul 20, 2022 3:16pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} There is quite a bit of information in the Michael Jenkins thread on properly drawing and measuring out the impulse wave. I looked at the one you presented a few post back and the most powerful, the 1 x1 was bang on...look what happened to price as the level was challenged. So, the complete wave should be measured if I hear you correctly. {image}

Is this Elliott wave whenyou say wave?
  • #4,759
  • Edited 5:20pm Jul 20, 2022 5:03pm | Edited 5:20pm
Quoting badcatstealf
{quote} Is this Elliott wave whenyou say wave?
No, there has to be a series of waves to form and Elliot Wave......this is simple math at work, Jenkins calls it squaring the range.....the theory is an Impulse Wave carries the DNA of future moves expressed using diagonals....and the 1 x 1 tends to be the best signals......( I misslabled the chart attached, should have read 1 x 1, not 1x4) Note the powerful effect it had, all coming from the DNA of the Left Hand Side of the Grid..

edit.....with all of this in mind, remember the diagonal is just a line, like fib levels, horizontal levels, offset angles and so on...some seem to be more powerfull than others, so you dont trade blindly just because and angle is being challenged, but you start to analyse price action at these levels, like the chart below, once I was in it was just a matter of managing stops to that break even, then just hold to the next level that seems to be strong.....no magic in all this, just common sense and management...
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  • #4,760
  • Jul 20, 2022 5:05pm Jul 20, 2022 5:05pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Thanks for your nice words Swede. As you know I had recently some head-ons about Gann about apprentice gurus, bullshitters and manipulators. Obviously they are not 100% so,but they present more or less the characteristics?. After years of various experiences I have listed some rules to detect a guru, a bullshitter or a manipulator or a combinaison of the three. First there is no guru without groupies and ONLY the groupies, the followers , the suckers create the guru. Gurus and bullshitters NEVER answer directly a question and above all NEVER...
Absolutly, totally agree with you 100%.....or should I say 161.8% lol
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