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  • Opened May 14, 2019 | Never Closes | 5 Votes
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Futures or Futures and Options?  
Futures Report 2 Votes
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Futures and Options Combined Report 3 Votes
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  • First Post: May 14, 2019 11:28am May 14, 2019 11:28am
If you look at the COT report for guidance in your trading, do you consider just futures contracts or do you look at the futures and options combined? Why?
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I think it would be best to look at both and maybe to have a look at the options only data as well

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Dunstan
Aye! Nice thread and TY... tryna get in on all dis risk... any calls for Gold?! Where da yield at?
Quoting mjbarr
If you look at the COT report for guidance in your trading, do you consider just futures contracts or do you look at the futures and options combined? Why? {image}
The open interest and changes to open interest are the real "tell" for this report. It implies confidence of large commercial concerns as to what/when they think the next cycle will begin.

When you see open interest increasing but at smaller and smaller rates from one week to the next it means the participation is getting saturated and large concerns are going to start exiting open positions.

Whether those are futures or options is mostly irrelevant. Everyone who holds and open positions is going to want to exit in profit.
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Quoting DonPato
{quote} The open interest and changes to open interest are the real "tell" for this report. It implies confidence of large commercial concerns as to what/when they think the next cycle will begin. When you see open interest increasing but at smaller and smaller rates from one week to the next it means the participation is getting saturated and large concerns are going to start exiting open positions. Whether those are futures or options is mostly irrelevant. Everyone who holds and open positions is going to want to exit in profit.
so .... institutions always need their options to finish ITM?
Quoting Cools81
{quote} so .... institutions always need their options to finish ITM?
Not necessarily...they can also sell the option at a profit before it expires. Exiting positions in options doesn't mean the always finish in the money...(this from someone who has never traded options). In addition, option positions is "implied commitment" it isn't an actual position until the option expires in the money.

Point being that the COT report (imo) is of better value when evaluating open interest and the rate of change in that interest.
Do more of that which succeeds and less of that which does not - Dennis Gar
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I've actually been wondering about this myself. I look at Futures and Options since its all-inclusive, but I'm not 100% sure that's superior to Futures only.
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