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Summary thread: this thread should contain all the important information from 100s of other threads

ForexFactory contains many threads about 'making profit'. My questions:

1. Is anyone willing to create (and manage) this thread? Who wants to be the manager (OP)?
2. Are the viewers willing to look thru 1 (or more) threads? Who wants to extract interesting sentences from threads to complete our overview on: making profit?

Introduction:
The readers on Forexfactory are not in the "institutional circuit". We all know that knowledge is power. Moreover, a community that is not striving to benefit from one another, is not effective. So, to progress and find out what each of us need to focus on in the forex world, we work together on this thread. You don't have to be an expert to help.
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How:
1. Pick a thread below;
2. extract 1, 2 or more sentences and then post them in this thread;
3. add questions behind your sentences (if needed).

FOR EXAMPLE
"When testing your trading system, make sure it has a positive skew (many smaller losses and few big winners)."
Source: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post10668737

--> if the statement clearly needs an argument 'why', then add a question behind the statement:
Why do we need a positive skew?

--> readers of this thread will then discuss (answer) it.

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Goal of this thread:
- building a complete overview on: making profit.

Categorized as:
*How to make profit
*How can we predict price
*What indicators/systems to use and what definitely not?
** martingale
*How to properly test a trading system
*Statistics
*currency correlation


Please UP this thread so people will read this.


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This thread is made by and made for retail traders (like us).
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Are you interested to create this thread (and manage it), then I would really appreciate it. Then please use below layout (or similar) for the new thread:




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NEW THREAD:

HOW TO MAKE PROFIT IN FOREX!
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Introduction: ................ (for example: there is no guarantee to make consistent profit, but.... if I would recommend anything at all, the best direction I can point you to, is
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----- deep neural networks (dnn)

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Fuzzy Logic
This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- HFT (high frequency trading)
This CAN work, because:
1. After installing MetaTrader4, every trader should also install an HFT EA that convert tick data into a database, SQL & FXT. Then the tick database can be processed for entries and prediction of the next tick direction
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Machine learning and data mining techniques
This CAN work, because:
1. Machine learning https://www.mathworks.com/campaigns/..._offer_ml_ebok
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Kalman filter
This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- FD (Frequency Distribution)

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Law of Averages

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Law of Numbers

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.


----- MM

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Structure analysis

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.


----- anything related/based on self-adapting to the market

This CAN work, because:
1.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.


Forex Myths busted:

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Introduction : ............. (every YouTube trainer in forex tells you that his indicator works. Below I will explain why they CAN work or CANNOT work.)
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----- indicators (oscillators, trend/ranged, volume, MAs)
This CAN work, because:

1. Most indicators are leading/lagging (past). Some indicators (like trendline breakouts, Andrew's pitchfork, ......., ..........., ............) are indicating the future, which has a higher probability. Because: ...............................

2. Best indicators: MTF, non-repainting, linear regression, filters, vhf, ds, adapting, floating/quantile levels, newest prices/averages, CFB (composite fractal bahavior), digital filter, DSL (discontinued signal line), QQE (quantitative qualitative estimation), theory based (Ocean, Kaufman, Aroon, Ehler, Blau, Schaff), and ....., ..............., .......... because:......................... All these non-repainting indicators can be downloaded here https://forex-station.com/viewtopic....8480&t=8430755.

- the best indicators can be downloaded on the forex TSD website (now it's called: forex-station). But more modern methods would be to use machine learning and data mining techniques to try predict price changes

3. Why is macd divergence trading more recommended than trading macd crosses?


This CANNOT work, because:

1. Most indicators take very basic aspects of statistical analysis

2. Fibonnaci and MAs cannot work, because.................

3. most indicators do not use data that are statistically measurable, provide no tradeable info, and is non representative of market generated data/info (candlesticks). If the only data you have available to you is OHLC what you need to do is "un coerce"/reformat the data back into a market generated format. Data that has both a "price" column and a column that marks "time". By breaking the market into it's components/units: TPO's... "price*time events", "time price opportunities", "time that price occurred" , all the same. You now have a data set that is quantifiable & measurable is unbiased by observer TF (objective data). Frequency "Counts" of each time a price is used over time Gives you a single multidimensional distribution/display of prices (Structure).
"Demand" can be read from the frequency of times a price has been used........
By keeping a tally/count how many times a "price" is used at each 30m interval your data now has a "price" column and you have a count of the "times" a price was used in a "time" column. you have then restored your data to it's original market generated Price*time format. Now you have a display of MGD that displays both price and time in which you can now use for analysis. How much of the traders' activity contains "actual demand" created by traders willing to hold their positions overnight? And as volume is not a direct indication of "actual demand", it has little or no value. Demand moves the market, not volume (activity).

4.

etc

----- patterns, waves and cycles (1-2-3 waves, Elliot waves, HnS (head and shoulders), wave pattern, bullish engulfing candle pattern, etc)
This CAN work, because:
1. Look for patterns and pattern aspects for each currency pair, timezone (session) and market condition. Don't measure candle height/swing height (amplitude), swing length and volatility, but rather follow the pattern itself.
2.
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- PA (price action)
This CAN work, because:
1. Researchers found that trading with the trend gives an additional edge of 10%. Can anyone post the research link?
2. Why do professional traders recommend trading M15 chart (instead of other charts)?
3.

This CANNOT work, because:
1.
2.
3.

----- Volume
This CAN work, because:
1. Instead of using the MT4 volume indicator, use a volume indicator based on tick data
2. But a better replacement for the volume indicator is the CoT indicator. If you are going to use the COT data for trading you need to be holding trades for weeks not days. Most people here hold trades no longer than a few days. When the futures contracts are at there largest or most extreme you follow the direction of the commercials (GBP contracts: 100k commercial short, 80k large spec long, 20k small spec long ie. go short dude). When the futures contracts are small follow the direction of the large specs. (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...16#post1965016). Following CoT reports means following Smart Money (the big guys).
3. Cot strategy: (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...48#post2369948)
Some rules of thumb suggest:
- If non-commercial is net long and both non-reportable and commercial are neutral look to enter into a long position.
- If both non-commercial and commercials are net long and non-reportable is net short look to enter a long position.
- If the non-reportable is net long and the non-commercial and commercial is short look for long entries.

4. Non Commercials usually act first, and if that move is confirmed by Commercials then it's a clear signal. (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...85#post2392785)



This CANNOT work, because:
1. Forex does not have a representation of real (central) volume.
2.
3.



To what extent is the Forex market random (price prediction):
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Introduction: .......................... (scientists have proven that Economic News moves the Forex market. Below we will go in depth to what extent the forex market is random.)
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For example:
- scalping below 10 pips is trading with more random price feed, than above 10 pips. Because:.......
- structure analysis: the forex has structure because central banks (CB) insist on it, and tier 1 and 2 banks function in a way that delivers structure (I’m looking at a 4h to 1D chart). Most of the time, this relationship (between CB and Tier banks) works well, but when structure falls apart, the CB’s take control (ie, 2008). No matter what, order will be/is imposed on the forex, and the processes these organizations use, in respond to fundamental announcements and regular international fund flows, will determine structure.
- Every month, week or day the market condition changes, because of economic news, ...... and,....... and .............
Question: how to predict for how long the new market condition lasts?
- etc etc
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How should (or shouldn't) you trade:
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Introduction: .......................... ()
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For example:
- never trade on a live account when you trade on a demo account on the same instance. Because:.......
- rather forward test on a small live account, than on a demo. Because:.......
- when manual trading you should use price data feed from an independent source, and then open new entry positions in your own broker's platform. Because:.......
- The best way to trade forex is not alone, but with 1 or 2 partners. In this teamwork you divide tasks: technical analyses, fundamental analyses, programming, etc and daily organise meetings to discuss, update and give one another deadlines and if needed stimulate each other where needed. Simply put, you will be able to see the progress in Google docs (which is where you find collected data from all your partners in 1 'MS Excel table'). The forex signals from that Excel table you are then able to use (as confirmation) for your entry/exit positions.
- use hedge buffers (two or three price zones) to make your trading system profitable in an uptrend and also ranged market.
- Always take trades on 58sec before open bar/candle closes so your price will be on the very top of new open bar/candle. Is this really better? (https://forex-station.com/viewtopic....46#p1295354221)

How should (or shouldn't) you automate an indicator or EA:
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Introduction: .......................... ()
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For example:
- Program in Python instead of mql4. Because:.......
- pull prices from an exchange and calculate your indicator using TA lib or alphavantage. Use pandas date time index dataframe using rolling methods.
- Good practice is first understanding the math behind each before observing behavioural patterns, or if you are good enough, expecting patterns from the math.



How should you test a trading system?

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Introduction: .......................... ()
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For example:
- Why is backtesting not effective to measure the profitability/probability of your trading system:
- Why is it better to forward live test 100 trades to check if the result is 75% winrate (instead of backtesting for 2, 5 or 10 years)?
- whenever testing indicators, patterns or strategies keep checking if therein you are able to read the demand/supply mindset of the market.

When is a system robust:
- Optimizing (curve-fitting), Profit factor (PF) and sample size are not so important. Because market conditions can remain in place for indeterminate periods of time. (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post10668737)
- Rather look at P/L, drawdown, positive expectancy, Sharpe, REAL averages, positive skew (many smaller losses and few big winners), short holding period, trades frequently and ...... ? And why?
- Test results are also good if the system runs on a great variety of different market conditions. (Of course sample size is a proxy for this as the greater the number, the more chance you encounter a greater variety of different market conditions but it is no guarantee....so using a fixed number like a backtest of 200 trades etc to be representative of a more robust performer is a bit of a misnomer. If your system is a high frequency trader then that sample size can potentially arise in a single market condition. In testing your system under an array of different market conditions.....then the longer the test the better.)
- identify which market conditions perform best
- maximize position rate: for example, max open positions is 10, then make position size: 10% per position.
- how to test if the results are just luck? How to find out if your predictive signals (in your system) don't actually exist?
- System diversification is a great way to manage the correlation between return streams. There are many different ways you can diversify to achieve improved risk-weighted returns including:
a) instrument diversification.....ideally across asset classes whereby you look for uncorrelated instruments that allow you to achieve higher risk-weighted returns than what is achievable with a single instrument (thus, not EUR/USD and GBP/USD. Since these two are correlated it could consider (in testing standpoint) that you are still only trading one currency pair);
b) timeframe diversification which also allows you to deploy uncorrelated return streams to optimise risk-return relationships; and
c) system diversification in which you deliberately construct your return streams to offer uncorrelated relationships. (https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...3#post10667433)


How do big institutions make profit:
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Introduction: .......................... they use technical and fundamental analyses. They use quantitive (Quant) trading: mathematical computations and number crunching to identify trading opportunities. This includes HFT, algos, statistical arbitrage and the availability of comprehensive databases. Many quantitative traders are more familiar with quantitative tools, such as moving averages and oscillators. (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q...ve-trading.asp) Quants use data mining (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/datamining.asp) and a Bloomberg terminal (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b...g_terminal.asp).
Quants have the choice between dedicated backtest software, such as Tradestation, a numerical platform such as Excel or MATLAB or a full custom implementation in a programming language such as Python or C++.
(https://www.quantstart.com/articles/...tative-Trading)
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For example:
- Here is a small list of places to begin looking for Quant strategy ideas:

  1. Social Science Research Network - www.ssrn.com
  2. arXiv Quantitative Finance - arxiv.org/archive/q-fin
  3. Seeking Alpha - www.seekingalpha.com
  4. Elite Trader - www.elitetrader.com
  5. Nuclear Phynance - www.nuclearphynance.com
  6. Quantivity - quantivity.wordpress.com

* which indicators do they use?
* most retail traders are scalpers. Does the same apply for big institutions?
* which methods do they use: neural networks, Kalman filter, fuzzy logic, machine learning and Frequency Distribution (FD)?

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I think that's a good ideal but need many change, maybe hard
 
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You have to figure out what works and what does not work for YOU.
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He puts in alot of hard work typing those. I commend on that. But everyone has different comments and view for sure. So I don't think you will get your eventual answer. I am sure there are traders that survive with just some basic indicators / oscillators as well
 
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Quoting edwinsieng
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But everyone has different comments and view for sure.
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Exactly, that is what this summarizing is about.


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I am sure there are traders that survive with just some basic indicators / oscillators as well
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Precisely, I agree, that is the goal of this thread: making an overview of it including source, author, arguments, etc. If the OP (of the new thread) reads thru other threads and eventually he is reading on them 'why specific indicators do work', then the OP is able to sum it up. Also, if it doesn't work, then this is a good opportunity to sum it up as well.
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Before a new OP steps up and takes his role, we could make his job easier by posting 'interesting threads' that should definitely be summed up and posted in one new thread.

Let me use this opportunity to be the first to suggest interesting threads to summarize (for our new thread):

Diversified Trend Trading Approach
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=514163

The only thread you will ever need: FX Exposed!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=768090

success with neural networks
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...4#post11198424

Twelve widely believed forex myths
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=273035

Kalman filter and currencies strength
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=435706

5 years and still no strategy
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=656830

Ideas for Data & applications of Machine Learning with Azure ML
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=776188

Why do indicators not work/work? Why is Forex not truly random?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=359847

Is trading really that hard?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=447992

Any Successful Forex Traders
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=734345

The Equilibrium, a key to success!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=727775

Why it is possible to predict price movement?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=359093

Fundamental Trading Always beats Technical Trading 100%
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=750004


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Let me use this opportunity to be the first to suggest interesting threads to summarize (for our new thread):

How to be profitable:

The greatest Forex questions ever asked
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=3898 (recommended)

What Would You Do Differently Today for Better Trading Results?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=589295

Can YOU make money as a professional trader - Redux
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=760980

Forex - A negative sum game for losers
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=651547

anyone need help?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=28414

threads about '90% of traders fail':
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=550936
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=39527
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=41771
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=714796
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=104168

What helped you the most to be profitable?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=349881

the most important things in forex
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=485215

Still losing
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...=399508&page=2

How my Trading took BIG turn...
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...91#post3334991

No Brainer Trades (including a huge arsenal of tool and resources)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=86429

Best & worst times to trade
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=10112

Can you get rich quickly from forex trading?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=428226

How far back is ideal for backtesting? (including poll)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=280665

How many consistently profitable traders around?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=632376

Can a grid trader survive? (including poll)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=480774

How many years to become profitable?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=9358

How much do people make trading FOREX
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=304173

How did you find success?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=210053

Does the martingale system really work?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=235889

What Is Best Indicator For Getting OUT of Trade?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=166768

On the topic of BS in trading forums...
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=239348

The most important lesson’s I’ve learned trading Forex, so far...
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=218515

Important – Why systems are profitable (or not)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=71674

We're all saying the same thing (but is there a real edge in forex?)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=80960

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Randomness in the market/Price prediction:

Can You Predict BIG Candles!?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=322479

Thoughts on randomness and systems
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=152918

TA self fullfilled prophecies... what a joke.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=141871

Is the market random or not ?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=80791

Poll: Are trends rooted in randomness?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=29629 (with poll)

Random Market vs Set Expectancy
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=81323

market and life, is it so different?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=274454

MTS Vs Random Entry - A Paradox
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=3718

Quantifying our Strategies
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...29#post6038429 (check the pdf files)

Pro Traders in a Random Market
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=253595

Probability System Theory and Money Management
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=11101

My take on trading
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=290480

why have you accepted the price-predictability assumption?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=461674 (recommended)

The Market's Illusions & The Human Brain
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=530946

Luck, Randomness, and Chance in Trading
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=551554

Profiting from an unpredictable market?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=533628

Building an edge based on crowd behaviour
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=511911

Is the market really random?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=496106

Market Random and Predictable Parts
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=249202

Do you believe this market is random?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=455818

Technical Analysis alone will not give you an edge
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=564224 (randomness quantified)

PDF file: market randomness in depth
https://www.forexfactory.com/attachm...0&d=1529058392 (recommended)(Random Walk Theory)

Random Walk Theory (The unbeatable!)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=653850

Assessing the Profitability of All Possible Trading Strategies
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=520834

Assessing the Profitability of All Possible Trading Strategies
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=502914 (including Random Walk Theory)

Random walk and Pascals triangle
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=248249

Probability System Theory and Money Management
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=11101

Is successful trading more dependent on skill than luck? (including poll)(recommended)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=23526

Random vs Predictable
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=529374 (poll)

Coin tossing and random entries
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=38050

40000 coin toss chart with data from Berkeley University
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=524090

coin toss entry question
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=146510

Short Term Trading is Quantum Physics
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=76647
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Discussion on indicators and systems

*are moving averages effective?
What are your moving average settings?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=456525

*reverse engineer the market
Reversed Engineered Trading System
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=303883

*replacing Volume in forex (with CoT)
Follow the Smart Money / COT Analysis
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=376395

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Forward/Backtesting:

Does backtesting work?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=535226

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Statistics:

The Magical Bell Curve of Standard Distribution
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=3323

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Correlation between FX pairs

Measuring Correlation Between FX Pairs
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=29333

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Martingale:

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=66849
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=222913
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=220308
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=203431

Martingale... How to make it WORK for YOU!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=390851

Magix, Martingales, and Market Myths
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=501128(recommended)

Martingaling - Looks so good until the inevitable
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=498722

$10 to $80,000 in 13 trades
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=756022

Playing Russian Roulette with Martingales
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=549931

Double or Nothing Scaling
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=646690

Martingale EA. Almost can't lose!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=12068




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Let's look at the following PDF files. If you read one pdf, try to extract only the interesting sentences (related to: making profit) and post them in this thread.
Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf ctmag_1209, the turtle system.pdf   524 KB | 369 downloads
File Type: pdf Convergent & Divergent Strategies.pdf   4.2 MB | 1,073 downloads
File Type: pdf SSRN-id2993026.pdf   927 KB | 506 downloads
File Type: pdf Big Data in Portfolio Allocation.pdf   834 KB | 1,003 downloads
File Type: pdf jpm-systematic-strategies-2013-12-11-1277971 (3).pdf   5.6 MB | 581 downloads
File Type: pdf Analysis-of-Trend-Following-Systems.pdf   915 KB | 782 downloads
File Type: pdf Complexity Economics - Research Paper.pdf   789 KB | 334 downloads
File Type: pdf TheBigSecretToTradingSuccess -Diversification - Kevin Davey.pdf   243 KB | 1,737 downloads
File Type: pdf Bill Dreiss - Measuring Market Choppiness Oct93.pdf   3.6 MB | 1,374 downloads
File Type: pdf Campbell & Co - Return_Dispersion__Counterintuitive_Correlation.pdf   1.4 MB | 381 downloads
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The Trader's Academy - by Traders for Traders (share ideas, tips, strategies, knowledge, anechdotes and experience for the benefit of others)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=557181 (recommended)

High Frequency Trading!
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=64064

Kalman filter and currencies strength
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=435706

Why the stock market is the easiest market to trade (also discusses Forex)
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=450595

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2. extracting 1, 2 or more sentences (mainly focused on 'how to make profit in forex') and then post them in this thread;
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"When testing your trading system, make sure it has a positive skew (many smaller losses and few big winners)."
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... xixixi ...
 
 
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These pdf files provide an explanation of high frequency trading in forex.



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Quantitative tools have been widely adopted in order to extract the massive information from a variety of financial data. Mathematics, statistics and computers algorithms have never been so important to financial practitioners in history. Investment banks develop equilibrium models to evaluate financial instruments; mutual funds applied time series to identify the risks in their portfolio; and hedge funds hope to extract market signals and statistical arbitrage from noisy market data. The rise of quantitative finance in the last decade relies on the development of computer techniques that makes processing large datasets possible. As more data is available at a higher frequency, more researches in quantitative finance have switched to the microstructures of financial market. High frequency data is a typical example of big data that is characterized by the 3V’s: velocity, variety and volume. In addition, the signal to noise ratio in financial time series is usually very small. High frequency datasets are more likely to be exposed to extreme values, jumps and errors than the low frequency ones. Specific data processing techniques and quantitative models are elaborately designed to extract information from financial data efficiently. In this chapter, we present the quantitative data analysis approaches in finance. First, we review the development of quantitative finance in the past decade. Then we discuss the characteristics of high frequency data and the challenges it brings. The quantitative data analysis consists of two basic steps: (i) data cleaning and aggregating; (ii) data modeling. We review the mathematics tools and computing technologies behind the two steps. The valuable information extracted from raw data is represented by a group of statistics. The most widely used statistics in finance are expected return and volatility, which are the fundamentals of modern portfolio theory. We further introduce some simple portfolio optimization strategies as an example of the application of financial data analysis. Big data has already changed financial industry fundamentally; while quantitative tools for addressing massive financial data still have a long way to go. Adoptions of advanced statistics, information theory, machine learning and faster computing algorithm are inevitable in order to predict complicated financial markets.

https://forex-station.com/viewtopic....8271&t=8413872

If you read one pdf, try to extract only the interesting sentences (related to: making profit) and post them in this thread.
Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf Middlemen in Limit Order Markets.pdf   584 KB | 414 downloads
File Type: pdf Risk and Return in High-Frequency Trading.pdf   731 KB | 422 downloads
File Type: pdf How Does High Frequency Trading Affect Low Frequency Trading.pdf   879 KB | 520 downloads
File Type: pdf Low-Latency Trading.pdf   847 KB | 295 downloads
File Type: pdf High Frequency Trading.pdf   579 KB | 369 downloads
File Type: pdf Trading Rules Over Fundamentals - A Stock Price Formula...s and Crashes.pdf   1.1 MB | 384 downloads
File Type: pdf Correlated High-Frequency Trading.pdf   564 KB | 386 downloads
File Type: pdf A Practical Real Options Approach to Valuing High-Frequ... R&D Projects.pdf   803 KB | 414 downloads
File Type: pdf High-frequency trading and the construction of information inequality.pdf   436 KB | 345 downloads
File Type: pdf Quantitative_Data_Analysis_in_Finance.pdf   1.4 MB | 852 downloads
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Forex reports
- https://www.barclayscorporate.com/pr...ns/fx-dmr.html (recommended)
- http://www.forexreport.com
- https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Financial_reports
- https://www.forexcycle.com/daily-forex-reports
- http://www.gfx.gbm.scotiabank.com/Ma..._Overview.html
- http://www.epicresearch.co/research/daily-reports/forex
- https://www.leaprate.com/category/forex-market-research
- https://vantagepointtrading.com/usin...forex-trading/
- https://www.forexct.com.au/education/reports
- https://www.oanda.com/forex-trading/...nts-of-traders
- http://www.capitalstars.com/forex-report/


How to make money in forex
https://www.wikihow.com/wikiHowTo?se...orex+indicator

Forex wiki
https://forexwiki.com/Main_Page

Forex databases:

  1. Reuters
  2. The Wall Street Journal
  3. Bloomberg
  4. MarketWatch.com






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How to make profit in forex? Well, price prediction is hard because price change consists of multiple factors:
1. Inflation Rates
2. Interest Rates
3. Country’s Current Account / Balance of Payments
4. Government Debt
5. Terms of Trade
6. Political Stability & Performance
7. Recession
8. Speculation

Therefore we dive into Forex statistics. Statistical analysis in FX trading, can literally mean anything.
If you want to analyse price action, then you’ll be measuring whats called price evolution.

Since there are only two ways price can behave; Mean reverting or Trending, you’ll be using statistics to find out probabilities if price will exhibit one of those two behaviors, in the near future.

A good to way to start thinking about this, is with this spectrum.
|| Random ← → Oscillating ← → Chaotic ← → Deterministic ||

Where price evolution always falls in between these 4 regimes/characteristics, and obviously random and deterministic represent pure 100% unpredictability and pure 100% predictability.

From there, it’s about using specific formulas for that price evolution. And giving each regime in that spectrum certain equations to work with, so that it can determine where in the spectrum, price action is falling more towards.

The statistical analysis, comes from trying to find a relationship and pattern in price evolution.

A good topic to start reading about is co-variance. It plays a very crucial role in all kinds of trading, not to mention all kinds of other professions and fields (making it a good topic to know about in general).

Read about probability specific textbooks. Probability is actually the universal driving force for statistics. Read about statistics from below links.


Forex statistics:
- [forex stats] https://brokernotes.co/forex-trading...ry-statistics/
- [forex stats] http://fxpros.net/index.php/forex-re...tats-2010-2013
- [eur/usd stats] http://fxpros.net/index.php/forex-research/eurusd
- [forex stats] https://www.fxstreet.com/strategy/statistics
- [stats on leverage, very interesting] http://thepatternsite.com/Currency.html
- [stats for backtesting] https://www.autochartist.com/66578-2/
- [MT4 stats] https://www.instaforex.com/market_statistics.php
- [forex stats] https://www.bis.org/statistics/about_fx_stats.htm

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Does anyone have knowledge of wikipedia editing? I need help to make a standard construction in my wiki page (my first time editing). My wiki is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:S...ete_collection
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