Issue escalated to Traders Court Holderlin vs AAFXTRADING.com (http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/case-2017-016-holderlin-vs-aafxtrading-com.48918/) | GUILTY
Using again, and for last time about this issue, this excellent Forexpeacearmy website, I want to answer back AAfxtrading´s answer to my experience of being swindled by them.
First, you, AAFXTRADING, have scammed a lot of people, not just me. Too late in my case, but I even found a whole website created by your victims: www. aafxtradingscam.review. Shame on you, great thieves.
Second, you have answered in just some hours this public complaint, but it´s now 21 days that this ”customer” of yours is asking you for an official explanation about how you cheated him with fake trades and fake candles.
Third, as usual, you lie again: "these type of clients based on EA... have paid huge amount (for the EA)". And you lie because you know perfectly that we didn´t pay a dime for our EA: we built it ourselves. We told you by written many times that we are three electronic engineers and experienced programmers, and we worked three years on it. In fact, the first thing your Live Chat said to us was: ”please, send us your EA”.
By the way, we use our EA more than one year ago with another brokers and, of course, no problem at all: they do not plant fake trades and spikes like in the movies. They are just honest, and earn a lot in commission as our EA trades so many lots. With you, for example, 1.250 lots in just seven days. But you don´t care: you are fake brokers, plain thieves.
And you performed both tricks exactly some hours before I was finally able to order a second withdrawal for 10.000 euros earnings (earned in just 6 days). A second withdrawal that you were delaying day after day.
Because I was your client for just 7 days, traded 1.250 lots and earned almost 12.000 euros. So, a dream for that decent broker you are not.
I even sent you both my MT4 journal (showing ordered sizes, and 100 times bigger sizes you planted on my account), and images comparing your ridiculously fake candles with another many brokers, included another twin-control account that I had with you secretly. Yes: I am a professional.
But be sure that you will pay me back all my monies: I won´t never stop claiming for my monies. And every day that passes by, you will have to pay me even for my lost daily benefits.
GENERAL WARNING: DO NOT SEND A SINGLE CENT TO AAFXTRADING. YOU WILL LOSE IT TOO.
And take a great look to www.aafxtradingisascam.review (http://www.aafxtradingisascam.review/).
Jan 21, 2017 - 1 Star AAFXTRADING SCAM – They crash any successful account by planting fake trades and spikes.
On last December 2016 I opened on AAFXtrading. com the VIP account 232516309, and funded it with 28.800 euros (twenty eight thousand and eight hundred euros). After 8 working days, our excellent EA (we are a team, and created this EA after more than 2 years of exhaustive work and full testings), had made 10.287 euros benefits. Watching the solid daily benefits, AAFX immediately put a fake crash out on the account by planting huge trades and faking a ridiculous spike of 225 pips.
Even if the whole thing was evident (and… highly suspicious at the same time: such two infamous “mistakes” commonly used by fake brokers to simulate crashes and close and steal any successful account), I kindly sent them five detailed emails with every evidence: my MT4 records (ordering 13 orders of 0.15 sizes, not those 100 times bigger, 15 lots each one, they planted one second later; 195 crazy lots in total!), and a graphic compilation comparing those three ridiculous fake candles with the official international data: many other brokers quotations and graphics and, also, comparing it with another account of them they didn´t know I had on another name!!!
On 8 working days my EA traded almost 1.250 lots (a dream for any honest broker), and ruled 12.000 small size trades up to 0.30 size; always the very same sizes once and once again. After 18 days, I didn´t got from them any answer nor explanation, but their Live Chat inmediately asked me something just incredible: “please, send us your EA”, (of course I did not) and they always pretend ignorance but, after some lines, suddenly they know everything and repeat non stop the perfect scam scheme.
The Live Chat tried to fool me by insisting on ¨sir, those trades were ordered from your IP¨, pretending to ignore Metratrader Journal and my repeated words: ¨Of course my EA ordered 13 trades, but on sizes 0,15 as it´s evidenced on the MT4´s Journal, not those 100 times bigger you planted on my account one second later. The MT4 keeps the orders it asked for, and what you planted in exchange¨.
The Live Chat (in fact, the only “answers” I ever got from them after sending five full and detailed emails), also ignored once and once again any reference to the scandalous fake spikes: 225 pips falldown when the market was calm and didn´t move more than 20 in any broker on this world, not even in any other account of them!
AAFX is a pure scam. They do not process any trade at all, just wait for customers to loss their monies and, if they don´t (like in our case) they plant fake trades and counterfeit the market to crash any account they don´t like. Of course, that´s why they can not offer the usual honest ECN systems to encourage success and volumes: PAMM accounts, Autocopy, ecc.
AAFXtrading stole me almost 40.000 euros. The only money I was able to withdraw were my first day´s 1.200 euros benefit, which I asked on that day and, after many lies, and insistence, I finally got 14 days later. And, ¨funny¨ enough, my account dashboard showed that amount was taken from… my own deposit.
Of course, I have the whole documentation and evidences ready to help others to prevent this scam. You can write me at [email protected] and I will gladly send you the whole documentation.
Just stay AWAY from AAFXtrading, PURE SCAM. NEVER, EVER, send them one cent: you will lose it too.
Reply by AAFXTRADING Support submitted Jan 23, 2017 Dear sir,
We confirmed that this our client and he deposited with us via bankwire. We can also confirm that he was using EA and all trades executed via EA. We have clearly mentioned on our website that if any EA malfuctioned we are not responsible for anything like that. If anyone needs his account history he/she can contact us and check yourself. These type of clients are based on EA and they believe EA will always make profits because they have paid huge amount for this and when the EA failed to show results. They just start blaming the broker. If anyone need more clarification on this case feel free to contact us.
Regards,
AAFX TRADING Team
Using again, and for last time about this issue, this excellent Forexpeacearmy website, I want to answer back AAfxtrading´s answer to my experience of being swindled by them.
First, you, AAFXTRADING, have scammed a lot of people, not just me. Too late in my case, but I even found a whole website created by your victims: www. aafxtradingscam.review. Shame on you, great thieves.
Second, you have answered in just some hours this public complaint, but it´s now 21 days that this ”customer” of yours is asking you for an official explanation about how you cheated him with fake trades and fake candles.
Third, as usual, you lie again: "these type of clients based on EA... have paid huge amount (for the EA)". And you lie because you know perfectly that we didn´t pay a dime for our EA: we built it ourselves. We told you by written many times that we are three electronic engineers and experienced programmers, and we worked three years on it. In fact, the first thing your Live Chat said to us was: ”please, send us your EA”.
By the way, we use our EA more than one year ago with another brokers and, of course, no problem at all: they do not plant fake trades and spikes like in the movies. They are just honest, and earn a lot in commission as our EA trades so many lots. With you, for example, 1.250 lots in just seven days. But you don´t care: you are fake brokers, plain thieves.
And you performed both tricks exactly some hours before I was finally able to order a second withdrawal for 10.000 euros earnings (earned in just 6 days). A second withdrawal that you were delaying day after day.
Because I was your client for just 7 days, traded 1.250 lots and earned almost 12.000 euros. So, a dream for that decent broker you are not.
I even sent you both my MT4 journal (showing ordered sizes, and 100 times bigger sizes you planted on my account), and images comparing your ridiculously fake candles with another many brokers, included another twin-control account that I had with you secretly. Yes: I am a professional.
But be sure that you will pay me back all my monies: I won´t never stop claiming for my monies. And every day that passes by, you will have to pay me even for my lost daily benefits.
GENERAL WARNING: DO NOT SEND A SINGLE CENT TO AAFXTRADING. YOU WILL LOSE IT TOO.
And take a great look to www.aafxtradingisascam.review (http://www.aafxtradingisascam.review/).
Jan 21, 2017 - 1 Star AAFXTRADING SCAM – They crash any successful account by planting fake trades and spikes.
On last December 2016 I opened on AAFXtrading. com the VIP account 232516309, and funded it with 28.800 euros (twenty eight thousand and eight hundred euros). After 8 working days, our excellent EA (we are a team, and created this EA after more than 2 years of exhaustive work and full testings), had made 10.287 euros benefits. Watching the solid daily benefits, AAFX immediately put a fake crash out on the account by planting huge trades and faking a ridiculous spike of 225 pips.
Even if the whole thing was evident (and… highly suspicious at the same time: such two infamous “mistakes” commonly used by fake brokers to simulate crashes and close and steal any successful account), I kindly sent them five detailed emails with every evidence: my MT4 records (ordering 13 orders of 0.15 sizes, not those 100 times bigger, 15 lots each one, they planted one second later; 195 crazy lots in total!), and a graphic compilation comparing those three ridiculous fake candles with the official international data: many other brokers quotations and graphics and, also, comparing it with another account of them they didn´t know I had on another name!!!
On 8 working days my EA traded almost 1.250 lots (a dream for any honest broker), and ruled 12.000 small size trades up to 0.30 size; always the very same sizes once and once again. After 18 days, I didn´t got from them any answer nor explanation, but their Live Chat inmediately asked me something just incredible: “please, send us your EA”, (of course I did not) and they always pretend ignorance but, after some lines, suddenly they know everything and repeat non stop the perfect scam scheme.
The Live Chat tried to fool me by insisting on ¨sir, those trades were ordered from your IP¨, pretending to ignore Metratrader Journal and my repeated words: ¨Of course my EA ordered 13 trades, but on sizes 0,15 as it´s evidenced on the MT4´s Journal, not those 100 times bigger you planted on my account one second later. The MT4 keeps the orders it asked for, and what you planted in exchange¨.
The Live Chat (in fact, the only “answers” I ever got from them after sending five full and detailed emails), also ignored once and once again any reference to the scandalous fake spikes: 225 pips falldown when the market was calm and didn´t move more than 20 in any broker on this world, not even in any other account of them!
AAFX is a pure scam. They do not process any trade at all, just wait for customers to loss their monies and, if they don´t (like in our case) they plant fake trades and counterfeit the market to crash any account they don´t like. Of course, that´s why they can not offer the usual honest ECN systems to encourage success and volumes: PAMM accounts, Autocopy, ecc.
AAFXtrading stole me almost 40.000 euros. The only money I was able to withdraw were my first day´s 1.200 euros benefit, which I asked on that day and, after many lies, and insistence, I finally got 14 days later. And, ¨funny¨ enough, my account dashboard showed that amount was taken from… my own deposit.
Of course, I have the whole documentation and evidences ready to help others to prevent this scam. You can write me at [email protected] and I will gladly send you the whole documentation.
Just stay AWAY from AAFXtrading, PURE SCAM. NEVER, EVER, send them one cent: you will lose it too.
Reply by AAFXTRADING Support submitted Jan 23, 2017 Dear sir,
We confirmed that this our client and he deposited with us via bankwire. We can also confirm that he was using EA and all trades executed via EA. We have clearly mentioned on our website that if any EA malfuctioned we are not responsible for anything like that. If anyone needs his account history he/she can contact us and check yourself. These type of clients are based on EA and they believe EA will always make profits because they have paid huge amount for this and when the EA failed to show results. They just start blaming the broker. If anyone need more clarification on this case feel free to contact us.
Regards,
AAFX TRADING Team