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  •  MaxenshteinD
  • Joined May 2016 | Status: carpe diem et memento mori | 478 Posts
Did I miss something or there are literally a minumum of 10 threads with hundreds of pages each from self proclaimed gurus claiming to be profitable with no evidence at all ?
Futhermore they are making nearly 4 digit sums from selling education ?
The truth is hidden from you
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  •  MaxenshteinD
  • Joined May 2016 | Status: carpe diem et memento mori | 478 Posts
Trading is a business right ?
So why is the attitude is like that's some kind of religion where 1) You don't need any evidence, you must simply believe. 2) If you dare question the validity, than you are going to hell ?
The truth is hidden from you
 
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  • Aug 1, 2017 2:58pm Aug 1, 2017 2:58pm
  •  FairTrader
  • Joined Mar 2017 | Status: kcabllup dna tseter | 400 Posts
This business itīs a scam world ...

We need to keep our eyes always open.
We are alone on our path.

Do not trust anyone ... Much less without evidence!
And if we are lucky ... sometimes we can find someone on our path with good intentions, but as I said, if we are lucky.
The funniest, is that nobody takes me seriously.
 
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  •  yousername
  • Joined Mar 2017 | Status: Working smart and hard | 2,949 Posts
Quoting MaxenshteinD
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Trading is a business right ? So why is the attitude is like that's some kind of religion where 1) You don't need any evidence, you must simply believe. 2) If you dare question the validity, than you are going to hell ?
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hahahaha
Some of these gurus need to keep their head down. And some of these students need to learn to respect the gurus/owner of the thread
I say, both needs to respect one another.
This is not investment/trading advise. Will not hold accountable for loss
 
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  •  dwe213
  • Joined May 2005 | Status: Shopping | 437 Posts
Want the real deal? Read all the old posts here by philmcgrew
 
 
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  • Aug 1, 2017 9:36pm Aug 1, 2017 9:36pm
  •  FxHelp
  • | Additional Username | Joined Sep 2016 | 545 Posts
Lack of knowledge of market = losing traders

Top traders also lose from time to time, the only difference they know when the balance tips over
Frank Fadi
 
 
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  •  Mr.yen
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experience is the best teacher
 
 
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  •  FxHelp
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Quoting Mr.yen
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experience is the best teacher
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I Frame that quote.

EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST TEACHER
Frank Fadi
 
 
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  •  yesyoucan
  • Joined Nov 2014 | Status: Proud to be FF Member | 357 Posts
Quoting MaxenshteinD
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Trading is a business right ? So why is the attitude is like that's some kind of religion where 1) You don't need any evidence, you must simply believe. 2) If you dare question the validity, than you are going to hell ?
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Read steve nison's Candlesticks ...and search Mentor as per your requirements.
Never Gamble Forex
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  •  Mr.yen
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Quoting RondaRousey
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{quote} 1. A true gun trader will not publish their trading system on FF. 2. Those who hide their losses cannot be trusted. Gun traders hide their gains. 3. The larger their ignore list, the more of a fraud they are. If they cannot accept criticisms then they cannot accept their losses.
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agree with you
 
 
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  •  FxLapozi
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Quoting RondaRousey
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{quote} 1. A true gun trader will not publish their trading system on FF. 2. Those who hide their losses cannot be trusted. Gun traders hide their gains. 3. The larger their ignore list, the more of a fraud they are. If they cannot accept criticisms then they cannot accept their losses.
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1. A true trader (or whatever shit you are calling) wont post shit like +2000pips only after trend is confirmed.
2. Yes, i agree with you those who hide their losses cannot be trusted and you, on the other hand, never posted any losses before. So what makes of you? Fraud?
3. You like attention and i am giving you mine.

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Did I miss something or there are literally a minumum of 10 threads with hundreds of pages each from self proclaimed gurus claiming to be profitable with no evidence at all ? Futhermore they are making nearly 4 digit sums from selling education ?
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You probably were referring to

  1. RondaRousey

 
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  •  Laslo
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Quoting MaxenshteinD
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Did I miss something or there are literally a minumum of 10 threads with hundreds of pages each from self proclaimed gurus claiming to be profitable with no evidence at all ? Futhermore they are making nearly 4 digit sums from selling education ?
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it seems that there are more teachers than students in forex niche
 
 
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  •  Mr.yen
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ooh yeeah and i'm fvckin' stupid student..
 
 
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  •  NeilWagner
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My 5 years trading experience is my best teacher. I also started from zero level!
 
 
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  •  LookinGood
  • | Joined Jan 2017 | Status: Member | 238 Posts
Quoting MaxenshteinD
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Trading is a business right ? So why is the attitude is like that's some kind of religion where 1) You don't need any evidence, you must simply believe. 2) If you dare question the validity, than you are going to hell ?
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It's simple psychology.

Person starts trading FX, thinks they'll be the one to break through the shackles of their mediocre familial monetary policy by doing so.
Does a little research, throws on some trades that they believe will work but in actuality have a 50/50 chance of profit.
The unlucky will win and think they have an edge. The unlucky will lose and think they need a mentor.
The unlucky winner will ramp up the risk and lose more than they bargained for bringing them down to the chaotic mind state of the loser.

Now the person, having taken a blow to their ego, searches for a system that will help them win back their pride and show that they're truly ordained for greatness and calm they're mental chaos.
After enough searching while depressed they come across an individual that appears to know more than them (the Guru).
This Guru will speak of things that they've never heard of before and they will speak with absolute confidence.
This Guru will also have a following. The followers affirm that this is the place to be if you want to be profitable.

Having experienced the pain and chaos of loss, this person will latch onto the 1st thing that appears stable and able to get them what they want.
They will mentally minimize the warning signs and maximize anything that confirms that they're in the right place at the right time.
The Guru's message will always be clear. "Its not the system, it's you. Look at this historical chart i just made, proofs right here."
Sometimes a follower might chime in. "Check out my historical chart. if i can learn this, why can't you? Work on your psychology!"

This follower is usually so far invested into this system that they just want to appear like they've achieved success knowing full well they struggling as well.
The follower thinks,"Hey, as long as these guys think i'm good at this then they'll think i'm better than them and i can get a little of this chaos an pain eased."
Person starts to wonder why they're having a hard time learning this thing that everyone else can but doesn't question the system itself.
Little do they know, they've been trapped.

The trap is probably not pre-planned and most will eventually see through it.

Probably just occurs from a well meaning individual that had a eureka moment and wanted to share with the world rather than testing it out.
Then again sometimes its just an elaborate scheme to get people to donate to their patreon or contact them so they can try to sell them a mentorship off the site. Sometimes its an individual who's just promoting a system that once googled, leads you to their website where you can pay for the system. As long as they don't mention it on FF they can be non-commercial Guru's.

All in all. It's just another layer of confusion that can ruin peoples lives if they buy into it. With no one willing to take responsibility, you can see why there are so many trolls on this website.
 
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  • Aug 2, 2017 1:05pm Aug 2, 2017 1:05pm
  •  FxHelp
  • | Additional Username | Joined Sep 2016 | 545 Posts
Identify the trend
monthly weekly daily
indentify LSS cycle LONG, SELL, SELL-SHORT
Find entry
and shoot

Sounds easy, huh?
I say lack of market structure is the missing link. and that comes with experience and knowledge
Frank Fadi
 
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  • Aug 2, 2017 5:36pm Aug 2, 2017 5:36pm
  •  RondaRousey
  • Joined Jan 2017 | Status: Member | 695 Posts
Quoting FxLapozi
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{quote} 1. A true trader (or whatever shit you are calling) wont post shit like +2000pips only after trend is confirmed. 2. Yes, i agree with you those who hide their losses cannot be trusted and you, on the other hand, never posted any losses before. So what makes of you? Fraud? 3. You like attention and i am giving you mine. {quote} You probably were referring to RondaRousey
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You have been following me around like a bad smell since the start of the year.

When I fart, you smell.
You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
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  • Aug 2, 2017 7:59pm Aug 2, 2017 7:59pm
  •  FxLapozi
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: Trading from Mars | 830 Posts
Quoting RondaRousey
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{quote} You have been following me around like a bad smell since the start of the year. When I fart, you smell.
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That's the best you can come up with? I am a little disappointed. Thought you are better troll than this. Guess I overestimated you.

Now go...Go play with your imaginary cash you profited from your imaginary trades.
 
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  • Mar 2, 2019 11:13am Mar 2, 2019 11:13am
  •  Infassen
  • | Joined Dec 2018 | Status: Member | 128 Posts
You can meet pseudo experts in any area of your life. Today we have a bunch of people, who are selling their not expert skills pretending like they are and actually making good money out of it. Probably this is also a consuming problem. We need to be more demanding.
 
 
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  • Mar 6, 2019 6:00am Mar 6, 2019 6:00am
  •  Nathaniel711
  • | Joined May 2018 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
I do not know. clear on the web is an awful lot of science support for trading.
 
 
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