What is the best moving Average to show the current trend on a

one hour chart ?

one hour chart ?

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What is the best moving Average to show the current trend on a

one hour chart ?

one hour chart ?

Quoting toddandersonDislikedWhat is the best moving Average to show the current trend on a

one hour chart ?Ignored

Here's my experience with MA's. A person could pick just about any number on any timeframe and come up with a set of rules for helping to define the trend. Since the MA is just a lagging average of prices, prices will always react in and around the MA. Personally, I use a 200 WMA on 5 and 15 minute charts. I've learned how price action reacts to that period. You could just as easily choose another period and be just as right. Again, I'd refer you to the HAT thread for helping to define trends.

Quoting toddandersonDislikedWhat is the best moving Average to show the current trend on a

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The beauty and the beast of the trading market is that its trends and flats last DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF TIME.

A ma that was too fast last month (or year) can be too slow today... An optimal period for MA today maybe too fast or too slow tomorrow... The best idea is to find an indicator or a system that has the least optimization possible and use it. It will not be optimal, but it will be more stable.

For ema's I liked this combination 5,21,55,233 (fibonacci numbers). On intraday use of that can get 100+ pips on pound...

Or 8,24,48,120,240 could work well for 1 hr chart...

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Depends on what trend you are looking for, short term trend call for shorter MA, such as the 34 EMA, longer term trend you might use something like the 50SMA, 100SMA or 200EMA. Alternatively look at Multiple Moving Averages, such as outlined in my trading manual at http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...ead.php?t=6233

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Quoting stockwetDislikedTake a look at the Hat thread. It's impressive for following the trend.

Here's my experience with MA's. A person could pick just about any number on any timeframe and come up with a set of rules for helping to define the trend. Since the MA is just a lagging average of prices, prices will always react in and around the MA. Personally, I use a 200 WMA on 5 and 15 minute charts. I've learned how price action reacts to that period. You could just as easily choose another period and be just as right. Again, I'd refer you to the HAT thread for helping to define trends.Ignored

- Joined Jan 2005 | Status: Keep Learning | 1,180 Posts

There is always the old problem of MAs which is they are either too fast or too slow most of the time, & in 10% of the time they fit...This is because the fact that the price itself dictates the movement of the MA & not vice versa...

If you can solve this problem someday, you might have got a solution for one of the biggest problems facing MA traders....I started searching for a solution for the problem 3 months ago...Just trying to develope an adaptive MA in which it can adjust itself not only in the speed of the price, but also in the mood of the price...For example, if the price is fast, my MA must be fast, but it will still lag, if the price is slow in its' movement, my MA should be slow and so on....About the mood of the price, I am trying to find a way in which the formula itself of the MA discounts strong trends, congestions, V shaped reversals & so on....I don't really need to include every single pattern in the formula because I know it would be impossible to do this, but I only need to include reversals, congestions & trend strength....

Wish me luck, I am still early in my research...

Thanks,

Nader

If you can solve this problem someday, you might have got a solution for one of the biggest problems facing MA traders....I started searching for a solution for the problem 3 months ago...Just trying to develope an adaptive MA in which it can adjust itself not only in the speed of the price, but also in the mood of the price...For example, if the price is fast, my MA must be fast, but it will still lag, if the price is slow in its' movement, my MA should be slow and so on....About the mood of the price, I am trying to find a way in which the formula itself of the MA discounts strong trends, congestions, V shaped reversals & so on....I don't really need to include every single pattern in the formula because I know it would be impossible to do this, but I only need to include reversals, congestions & trend strength....

Wish me luck, I am still early in my research...

Thanks,

Nader

Quoting narafaDislikedThere is always the old problem of MAs which is they are either too fast or too slow most of the time, & in 10% of the time they fit...This is because the fact that the price itself dictates the movement of the MA & not vice versa...

If you can solve this problem someday, you might have got a solution for one of the biggest problems facing MA traders....I started searching for a solution for the problem 3 months ago...Just trying to develope an adaptive MA in which it can adjust itself not only in the speed of the price, but also in the mood of the price...For example, if the price is fast, my MA must be fast, but it will still lag, if the price is slow in its' movement, my MA should be slow and so on....About the mood of the price, I am trying to find a way in which the formula itself of the MA discounts strong trends, congestions, V shaped reversals & so on....I don't really need to include every single pattern in the formula because I know it would be impossible to do this, but I only need to include reversals, congestions & trend strength....

Wish me luck, I am still early in my research...

Thanks,

NaderIgnored

First the trend will change on 1 minute, then 5 minute charts, then 10, then 15 minute charts and so on until the major trend on large scale charts changes.

I was just reading 'Trading with DiNapoli Levels' where the author says he asks the following question at any classes he gives.

**"Which way is the S&P going?**"

People say either up, down or sideways. He says the question they should as is of course**"On what time frame?"**.

So if you interested in long term trend use a longer ma,, short term =short ma. as has been stated by others above.

SilverB

People say either up, down or sideways. He says the question they should as is of course

So if you interested in long term trend use a longer ma,, short term =short ma. as has been stated by others above.

SilverB

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- Joined Jan 2006 | Status: Pips Ahoy! | 1,130 Posts

As i post this, i am an hour away from entering an online webinar with Raghee, teacher of the "Wave" (a 34ema Close/High/Low see these free online training videos) who uses this on her 30m,60m,180m,240m,Dailies. She states that it is no Holy Grail, but it works for her in the various market conditions. I too have searched through the MA madness and from my past year of study have come back time and again to using FIBO-numbered emas beginning w/the 8ema and going up to the 377.

Along this study i purchased the DVD "Better Trading with the Guppy Moving Averages". Understanding of the market groups and how the GMMA can be used in indicating the market's mood was a nice addition to the library of knowledge. I'm also beginning to dig into the RMMA (Rainbow Multiple Moving Average) discussed by Akuma99 his "Not So Squeezy" thread Well worth the read if you have not yet done so.

Cheers,

Thom

Along this study i purchased the DVD "Better Trading with the Guppy Moving Averages". Understanding of the market groups and how the GMMA can be used in indicating the market's mood was a nice addition to the library of knowledge. I'm also beginning to dig into the RMMA (Rainbow Multiple Moving Average) discussed by Akuma99 his "Not So Squeezy" thread Well worth the read if you have not yet done so.

Cheers,

Thom

For me, there is no point to find the ultimate moving average at all. When you use MA, you should expect to have loss during the range market and that's normal.

I have been testing MA for quite a long time, and they all give similar results over a longer time frame - about 33% winning ratio....However, with a proper money management plan, you can end up with profit with ANY MA number you selected. Therefore what's the need to search the "best" MA?? Get on with a proper money management and fire it off...

If you really need advise using MA - the only advise I can give you is to "AVOID TRADING DURING HOLIDAYS" - at least 2 weeks prior the holiday and 1 week after the holiday.

Hope this helps

Use the same MA's as many of them and you'll do alright.

Many traders use the Fibonacci numbers, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55...

Many use the 20, 50, 100, 200,

Some use 25, 40, even the ten,

Most use EMA, I think, sometimes with a simple on the longest time frame they use, i.e. the 200.

Put some up, and when price treats a MA as a support and/or resistance line, especially 3 or more times, than you have hit on one which is very useful at the time you are looking, and should be tried again in that same market.

- | Joined Oct 2016 | Status: Member | 384 Posts

Each period of moving average influences the graphic from 0 up to the Infinite, the moving average measured the average price but i do not believe in that, according to the period of moving average has a certain amount of force and according to the period of moving average will influence in a given time

You can try to learn these settings

8 EMA 13 EMA 21 EMA 34 EMA 55 EMA 89 EMA 144 EMA (Fibonacci sequence)

Iīm not a teacher i donīt care if is not sufficient information

You can try to learn these settings

8 EMA 13 EMA 21 EMA 34 EMA 55 EMA 89 EMA 144 EMA (Fibonacci sequence)

Iīm not a teacher i donīt care if is not sufficient information

- | Joined Oct 2016 | Status: Member | 384 Posts

I think Moving average is a good indicator, is the only one that detect how market works, actually the market move with Force and time because of logic, the moving average is a great tool to detect the movements (force and time, based in a certain sector of candles)

- Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Member | 1,942 Posts

Disliked{quote} THERE IS NO BEST OPTIMIZED MA OR ANY OTHER INDICATOR! The beauty and the beast of the trading market is that its trends and flats last DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF TIME. A ma that was too fast last month (or year) can be too slow today... An optimal period for MA today maybe too fast or too slow tomorrow... The best idea is to find an indicator or a system that has the least optimization possible and use it. It will not be optimal, but it will be more stable. For ema's I liked this combination 5,21,55,233 (fibonacci numbers). On intraday use of that...Ignored

EXACTLY

So you need to update it periodically depending on the TF you trade.

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Only business as usual..