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  • Edited 6:21am Mar 26, 2016 1:53am | Edited 6:21am
  •  sevan62
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Quoting xmess7
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Sevan67: I believe CArneiro is saying to only take 3 pairs into consideration when trading with the rule he established. Then u can set the group TP/STOP/TS/BE. By doing this you are making the EA very selective of when it initiates a trade.
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Sure about it?
Maybe at least 3 pairs? From 03 to 07, let us look:
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But i missed the rule which defines:

  1. The particular number of pair in the group,
  2. Which currency pairs should be placed in group?

I've suggested "Currency strenght minimum level for stronger currency/group and for weaker?" but is is the best solution? I cant get clear answers to my 4 questions. Maybe you help with it?

If i understand perfectly the rule is the following:

  1. If at any moment we have at least one weak currency with currency strength not higher than 1.0 there is a chance to open group thading deals. Right? The same for sthe strongest one.
  2. But what rule defines the number of currencies on the opposite side? 03 or 04 or ... 07?
  3. And what rule defines what of them should we take into group? Euro currencies (EUR, GBP, CHF) against USD or JPY? Or maybe oil and gold dependent (CAD, AUD, NZD) against some of euro group or USD or JPY?

Who will clarify this? Unfortunately i have no experience in trading Udine system and these are unresolved questions for me. It seems that it is more easy to programm the rules than to get or understand them.

BR, alex
 
 
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  • Edited 6:23am Mar 26, 2016 2:29am | Edited 6:23am
  •  sevan62
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One more important question concerning group trading:

  1. Should we ignore all level filters (Fibo, DO, WO, MNO, BRN) if the rules for group trade entry are met?

This question arise because entry for some (or even all) currency pairs in the group may be prohibited by above mentioned level filters. I've read somewhere in JibalaPasan post that she ignore all the levels if she define synchron (or high correlation) in currency pairs. That is why i suggest to ignore level filter if the group is formed. Is it right?

BR, alex
 
 
  • Post #143
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  • Edited 5:50pm Mar 26, 2016 4:15am | Edited 5:50pm
  •  sevan62
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Quoting the bourne
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@Sevan Robinho is saying something very similar to what I was trying to outline in these my 2 old posts: here (look at point 3 and 4) and here we must have an edge on the market to be consistent with our profits STRONG CURRENCY is the way to go and yes, it is a good idea to start a separate thread for Robinho BT and it is a VERY good idea to not add too much filters keep up the good work
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Thanks mate for your high contribution in this thread. I assure you that any rule can be programmed in EA if it has formal description.
Following your previous posts:
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... as an optional 4-more sophisticated rule, RISK adversion\appetite filter. CHF & JPY strong=Risk adversion with this filter on,we could have less trades,but more profits in my opinion
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If i got it clearly you offer to restrict all entries in case we detect both CHF & JPY strong? Do you mean strong CHF & strong JPY? What minimum level? Not less than 6.5 for example for both CHF & JPY? Why exactly CHF & JPY? Why strong but not weak?

The second post:
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@sevan62 MariaLuiza's Master\Slave Filter explanation= Before entry make sure that the pair Master and Slave are moving in same direction and the direction of trade and direction of master slave pairs are same. Example: Lets say EURCAD qualifies for an entry according to GVC/Jibala current dashboard entry rules but before entry make sure that at that time Master (EURUSD) and Slave(EURJPY) are arround EURCAD and they are having same strength/price direction as that of EURCAD. Like if we are making a buy entry for EURCAD then EURUSD and EURJPY strength...
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So i'll try to formulate this rule as i got it and please correct me if i'm wrong. And please answer some questions also.

  1. ​We define all conditions for entry (for ex EURCAD) according to GVC/Jibala are met. ...
  2. We begin to look for Slave pair. Why exactly EURUSD is a Master and EURJPY is a Slave for EURCAD? What do you mean by "Master (EURUSD) and Slave(EURJPY) are arround EURCAD"? Are EURUSD and EURJPY master/slave for EURAUD in any conditions? What are the rules for determining Master/Slave for any other pair? For example for NZDCHF or EURJPY?
  3. A questions for clarification "Master (EURUSD) and Slave(EURJPY) are arround EURCAD and they are having same strength/price direction as that of EURCAD." Should we measure pair strenght in BSR (Buy/Sell Ratio)? Anyway it can't be exactly the same. Maybe better to limit pair strenght difference? Should we detect pair price direction based on a sign of their BSR? Or D1&H1 candle color? Or correlation coefficient sign and value?

Please try to provide more detailed rules description as for newbie trader otherwise it is impossible to formalise them.

P.S. Good weekend and green pips to everybody.

BR, alex
 
 
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  • Mar 26, 2016 4:23am Mar 26, 2016 4:23am
  •  Eonfx
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Good to see you guys are working hard on this project.
We are proud to be most consistent signal provider in entire industry.
 
 
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  • Mar 26, 2016 10:07am Mar 26, 2016 10:07am
  •  Carneiro
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Quoting xmess7
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Sevan67: I believe CArneiro is saying to only take 3 pairs into consideration when trading with the rule he established. Then u can set the group TP/STOP/TS/BE. By doing this you are making the EA very selective of when it initiates a trade. Carneiro: Hello . I going to trying Spanish to see if the translation will help.. I will try to read your posts in portuquese cause there is a little similarity in the languates in terms of expression. So lets see if this helps Hope the translator doesn't...
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It is this same friend

but if the currency is with 04 pairs dea cordo,,, will make 04 entries
if with 05 pairs of agreement will make 05 entries

The only thing we have to put the same risk ... if we put 2% risk, .... this risk to be 03,04, 05, 06 or 07 entries ... the risk has to be the same .. regardless of how many entries do
 
 
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  • Mar 26, 2016 10:13am Mar 26, 2016 10:13am
  •  Carneiro
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Quoting sevan62
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One more important question concerning group trading: Should we ignore all level filters (Fibo, DO, WO, MNO, BRN) if the rules for group trade entry are met? This question arise because entry for some (or even all) currency pairs in the group may be prohibited by above mentioned level filters. I've read somewhere in JibalaPasan post that she ignore all the levels if she define synchron (or high correlation) in currency pairs. That is why i suggest to ignore level filter if the group is formed. Is it right?
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Seven 62 good day ... is to leave all existing filters
see the example of post 85
GBP was weak ... had 05 entries with different pairs ...
If the inputs are in agreement, will pass the filters
The 03 minimum entries must be in accordance with the filter ... If you have 02 entries ok ... and the 3rd is prevented by a filter ...
EA WILL NOT DO THE ENTRIES 02 OK
 
 
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  • Mar 26, 2016 10:14am Mar 26, 2016 10:14am
  •  the bourne
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Quoting sevan62
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{quote} Thanks mate for your high contribution in this thread. I assure you that any rule can be programmed in EA if it has formal description. Following your previous posts: {quote} If i got it clearly you offer to restrict all entries in case we detect both CHF & JPY strong? Do you mean strong CHF & strong JPY? What minimum level? Not less than 6.5 for example for both CHF & JPY? Why exactly CHF & JPY? Why strong but not weak? The second post: {quote} So i'll try to formulate this rule as i got it and please correct me if i'm wrong. And please...
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Here we go,I got some free time for reply,just sent you a PM,I don't wanna clutter this thread
DO UT DES
 
 
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  • Mar 27, 2016 12:41am Mar 27, 2016 12:41am
  •  Carneiro
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2015 | 1,420 Posts
important note

03 or 04 in group
risk / stop = 2%
reward = 3% 4%
be = 1%
ts = 1.5%


05 input group
risk / stop = 2.5%
reward = 3.5% a 5%
be = 1.5%
ts = 2.5%

06 or 07 in group
risk / stop = 3%
reward = 4% a 6%
be = 2%
ts = 3%

1) we must change this agreement risk reward with the number of entries, for a fixed amount may be with a very short risk if the robot make more than 05 entries

just like hint
 
 
  • Post #149
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  • Edited 5:00am Mar 27, 2016 3:23am | Edited 5:00am
  •  sevan62
  • Joined Nov 2015 | Status: Coder | 510 Posts
Quoting Carneiro
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important note 03 or 04 in group risk / stop = 2% reward = 3% 4% be = 1% ts = 1.5% 05 input group risk / stop = 2.5% reward = 3.5% a 5% be = 1.5% ts = 2.5% 06 or 07 in group risk / stop = 3% reward = 4% a 6% be = 2% ts = 3% 1) we must change this agreement risk reward with the number of entries, for a fixed amount may be with a very short risk if the robot make more than 05 entries just like hint
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It is clear now, mate Robinho and will be realised in EA.
But there is still a question

  1. Based on which criteria should we calculate the particular number of pairs in the group? Minimum level of currency strenght?

Have a nice weekend

BR, alex
 
 
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  • Edited 8:16am Mar 27, 2016 7:22am | Edited 8:16am
  •  M.Propper
  • | Joined Mar 2016 | Status: Member | 139 Posts
Hello sevan, hello to everyone. I have signed up specifically for this Tread here and would like to help test the EA and will from next week the trades post here. ( If desired )
What me until now to the EA incident:
1. The news filter. Should he stop the EA completely or only the affected pairings? (Udine rule says only these pairs)
2. Would it not be easier to enter the trading hours sequentially in a single line?
10: 05-11: 30,14: 10-16: 10 ...............
Likewise, the couples he is to act (to do list item 20)
3. Please explain to me the meaning behind the Version 1.43. The filter Pause after deal was supposed to be enough, right?
And finally, a desire. I am very interested in the Basket-Traiding, but please do it so that you can trade either 00-level or basket. Maybe a switch installing .... Basket Traiding true / fals.
Thank sevan, for this project and your work on it.
(Any misspelling, Google has made)
 
 
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  • Edited 8:33am Mar 27, 2016 8:14am | Edited 8:33am
  •  Carneiro
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{quote} It is clear now, mate Robinho and will be realised in EA. But there is still a question Based on which criteria should we calculate the particular number of pairs in the group? Minimum level of currency strenght? Have a nice weekend
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What strength criteria you use in EA Robinho?

The one you will use,,, the only difference is that it will only use the power of the stronger (1st) and the weakest (8th)

For example ... We may have a very strong currency and activate 03 entries and at the same time have a very weak currency and activate 04 entries at the same time. So work only with 1st and 8th

Note: I left a power indicator in the post 94 CM Strength ... I do not know what you think,,, because I do not know the ease of programming you have,,, but post 94 left the indicator Trend indicator, it could be the trigger of the strong and weak currency.

A hug and grateful for all the attention
 
 
  • Post #152
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  • Edited 5:50pm Mar 27, 2016 1:51pm | Edited 5:50pm
  •  sevan62
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Quoting M.Propper
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Hello sevan, hello to everyone. I have signed up specifically for this Tread here and would like to help test the EA and will from next week the trades post here. ( If desired ) What me until now to the EA incident: 1. The news filter. Should he stop the EA completely or only the affected pairings? (Udine rule says only these pairs) 2. Would it not be easier to enter the trading hours sequentially in a single line? 10: 05-11: 30,14: 10-16: 10 ............... Likewise, the couples he is to act (to do list item 20) 3. Please explain to me the meaning...
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Hi M.Propper, welcome to the thread and thanks for attention.
1. News filters prohibits the deals for all currency pairs if red news are received at least for one currency. Mybe later i'll make separation for each currency but i'm not sure if it make sence. For example USD red news has a great effect on whole market and every currency pair is involved in fast movement.
2. I don't think so. There will be more mistakes probability entering proper values in one line. For example smb will use space or dot or semicolon instead of comma. And it is necessary to have some room for comments to define which value correspontds to which session and there is no room in this case. Look at any dashboard parameters with multissesions or other EA. There is similiar organisation. And it is not such important imho.
3. Right. Pause After Deal is one of time filters. The second one is 1 trade per H1 candle and the third is 1 trade per session. It is up to you which to apply. But i'm not going to make two in one EA. It would be much better to create two separate EAs. One with single trade control and another basket trading. The reasons are:

  1. Completely different logic of entry, exit and trailing/BE.
  2. Completely different input parameters (GUI would be mess for mix version).
  3. Completely different functions, indicators and principles.

It is possible to create it but it would be terrible to use it. Anyway basket trading EA is not in the nearest future.

BR, alex
 
 
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  • Edited Mar 28, 2016 1:40am Mar 27, 2016 1:53pm | Edited Mar 28, 2016 1:40am
  •  sevan62
  • Joined Nov 2015 | Status: Coder | 510 Posts
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{quote} What strength criteria you use in EA Robinho? The one you will use,,, the only difference is that it will only use the power of the stronger (1st) and the weakest (8th) For example ... We may have a very strong currency and activate 03 entries and at the same time have a very weak currency and activate 04 entries at the same time. So work only with 1st and 8th Note: I left a power indicator in the post 94 CM Strength ... I do not know what you think,,, because I do not know the ease of programming you have,,, but post 94 left the indicator...
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Thx bro for your comments. Now we are closer for understanding and proper realisation.

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Results for Asian Session today:
1. ICMarkets:
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Tickmill less deal perhaps because of wider spread. Spread filter is set to 25 and was prohibiting them.
Deals:
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BR, alex
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2016 4:28am Mar 28, 2016 4:28am
  •  AlexDee
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Nice results I just started and will post my results later today.
Slowly, but positively
AlexDee All Time Return: -0.3%
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2016 5:55am Mar 28, 2016 5:55am
  •  M.Propper
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Hello sevan, nice to hear that there will be a separate EA for trading Basket. Unfortunately, it looks to me so that the EA until now ignored the filter settings. Or am I doing something wrong?
(All spelling mistakes has made Google)

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  • Mar 28, 2016 10:39am Mar 28, 2016 10:39am
  •  M.Propper
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He ignores the Pivot Level settings consistently. How many days calculated the adr filter?
(All spelling mistakes has made Google)
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  • Mar 28, 2016 12:17pm Mar 28, 2016 12:17pm
  •  AlexDee
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It opens not on the 00-levels only as per Udine's strategy.
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Slowly, but positively
AlexDee All Time Return: -0.3%
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2016 12:29pm Mar 28, 2016 12:29pm
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{quote} Sure about it? Maybe at least 3 pairs? From 03 to 07, let us look: {image} But i missed the rule which defines: The particular number of pair in the group, Which currency pairs should be placed in group? I've suggested "Currency strenght minimum level for stronger currency/group and for weaker?" but is is the best solution? I cant get clear answers to my 4 questions. Maybe you help with it? If i understand perfectly the rule is the following: If at...
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I answered this for you in this post....
Rank ' em, based on the values where it measures distance for the midpoint, and you have a flying start...
Start with the big rocks, remember ?
LuXing
Wisdom begins in wonder
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2016 2:11pm Mar 28, 2016 2:11pm
  •  sevan62
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Hello sevan, nice to hear that there will be a separate EA for trading Basket. Unfortunately, it looks to me so that the EA until now ignored the filter settings. Or am I doing something wrong? (All spelling mistakes has made Google) {image} {image} {image} {image}
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Hi M.Propper,
you are right, it looks like there is another calculation formula for SnR. I'll check it soon.

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How many days calculated the adr filter? (All spelling mistakes has made Google) {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
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50 days.
BR, alex
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2016 2:20pm Mar 28, 2016 2:20pm
  •  sevan62
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It opens not on the 00-levels only as per Udine's strategy. {image}
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You are right. But this is not Udine EA but Robinho EA and as i noticed studiing Robinho's charts he ignores this rule. Nevertheless i may add an option to open trades exactly on 00 level.
BR, alex
 
 
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