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  • Oct 19, 2007 9:53am Oct 19, 2007 9:53am
  •  Yuppie
  • | Joined Jun 2007 | Status: ̿ ̿ ̿̿'̿̿\̵͇̿̿\=(•̪●)=/̵͇̿̿/'̿̿ ̿ | 2,727 Posts
Here is another trade...

Waited for this one for a while... Trades you plan well in advance generally work out better I find...

Playing things very conservatively just now... Usually more liberal... But just trying different things to see where my comfort zone is...


E/J is really respecting S/R zones today...


Magnus
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:02am Oct 19, 2007 10:02am
  •  hensch
  • | Joined Apr 2005 | Status: $$$$ | 142 Posts
Are you sure that's the Asian session high?

Quoting Yuppie
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Here is another trade...

Waited for this one for a while... Trades you plan well in advance generally work out better I find...

Playing things very conservatively just now... Usually more liberal... But just trying different things to see where my comfort zone is...


E/J is really respecting S/R zones today...


Magnus
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:04am Oct 19, 2007 10:04am
  •  prosperfx
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: Member | 82 Posts
Great posts today everyone! Magnus, I for one have benefited from you sharing your learning journey with us. Keep it up!

I think I trade the Rainbow differently than many people on the thread. I guess it is somewhat of a hybrid - Rainbow Scalping / Trend Following. Granted, I use the 30 second Rainbow to "follow the trend" and keep me in trades, which probably wouldn't be considered trend following to anyone else but Rainbow scalpers!

My point is that I have found something that works well for me. To be honest, my personal "strategy" in using LT's rainbow has come simply from practicing and adjusting - practicing again and adjusting more. Each day, and each trade, I get more comfortable with how I trade with the Rainbow. I want to see consistency for a month or two until I will feel like I have earned the right to go live, but in the meantime, I can refine my use of the Rainbow even more.

The thing I like about LT and his strategy is that fact that what I have just described is not only OK, but encouraged! I guess when I talked about "getting it" yesterday I was referring to this development of one's personal Rainbow style, not necessarily seeing how others interpret the Rainbow, spine or flame.

That being said, I am more than happy to share "what works for me" with the group, even though it may not work or appeal to them.

Glen

P.S. Sorry for the poor screen shot. I have yet to load my new screen capture program (thanks Magnus) on my PC!
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:06am Oct 19, 2007 10:06am
  •  amenlo9
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late entry.but it is very dangerous because the price might go opposite very fast
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:09am Oct 19, 2007 10:09am
  •  TheOne
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: Member | 49 Posts
Quoting Yuppie
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I gave this post that title because the flame threw me :...

Seriously though, I believe I finally understand the flame. The spine I have grasped in the last couple of days thanks to everyone here ...

I have attached LT's modification of eyecelll's chart from yesterday...

This is what allowed me to understand the flame. I studied it for a while and finally realised what I am meant to be watching for in the flame... While I am pleased at this... I am also dis-pleased... Bear with me here... I have spent two weeks solid studying the Rainbow and I only now know what to look for in the flame... While it is certainly not wasted weeks, they certainly could have been more productive!!...

Now, maybe it is just me that had this problem with this, maybe not. I'll take the stance that others may have problems too... What I want to get at is that although we heard the usual "screen time", "follow the flame", etc.. from various individuals throughout the thread... I always found it lacking in substance. I appreciate the requirement of screen time [currently doing 06:00 GMT to 00:00 GMT every day ]... but as you are now aware, I (and so possibly others) really struggled to grasp the flame, and spine to a lesser degree...

I personally learn from examples... So it was not until this morning when I saw LT's modified eyecelll chart that I finally unsderstood how to watch the flame...

I immediately assumed I had missed something throughout the whole thread on this. So I went through the whole thread again and basically came up with very few examples like the one LT gave...

Here they are for your perusal:

nhallmark - on a 1-min chart

nhallmark - on a 5-sec chart

C.E.O. - on a 1-min chart

C.E.O. - on a 1-min chart with candles

linuxtroll - on a 10-tick chart


Now, these are not extensive examples on what I believe to be the way to interperet the flame... The one LT gave this morning was by far the best... Ok, there is some help from hindsight in some of the exits, but nevertheless, a great example of how to interperate the flame...

The main point of this post was to highlight the fact that I personally found core pieces missing in the way the Rainbow was presented. I am not knocking this fantastic thread - far from it!!! - I am trying to improve it both for others and myself. I really do appreciate the way in which LT has brought us the method; espousing screentime and simplicity... I however, take a little bit more than that to learn something...

Ok, maybe I am the first person to find themselves with an inability to grasp implementation of the [admittedly simple] concepts of the Rainbow (other people certainly seemed to be making pips)...

I find examples more helpful that almost anything else. I am sure other people do as well. Alessandro's charts from Wednesday were excellent, and a number of people commented on them (I can now see that he has done the same again today, will check them in a few minutes Alessandro ). Do you guys find examples helpful?

I am going to post a chart or two to try and make sure I am attempting this right... I hope you will critique them for me...


Thanks for listening,

Magnus
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Great post Magnus.
Very well said.
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:10am Oct 19, 2007 10:10am
  •  amenlo9
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another 2 fast scalp.no gut to hold longer.
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:15am Oct 19, 2007 10:15am
  •  Yuppie
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Quoting hensch
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Are you sure that's the Asian session high?
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Nope! Have changed it now. Thank you Henry.

[Everyone else: This is with regard to the picture in post #2862. There was an error that is now fixed. No need to go back.]


Magnus
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:52am Oct 19, 2007 10:52am
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Magnus, I have turned your screen (with loosing entry) upside down (to see it as a long entry) and compared it with Amenlo9 winning entry. Not much difference in a 5sec world. Except there is some more knocking on the resistance just before Amenlo9 took the trade. Maybe Magnus entry was not that "clear mistake"... You just get out with small loss and try it another time. Any comments welcome.
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Thanks atomz. Interesting way of looking at it.

The key difference between my entry and Amenlo9's is that the market was very quiet when I entered...

E/J was starting to kick when Amenlo9 entered... I also think the knocking on the resistance in Amenlo9's trade is something to take note of...


Thanks,

Magnus
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 10:57am Oct 19, 2007 10:57am
  •  Yuppie
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Quoting Bruno
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...Very usefull informations...
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This is very interesting Bruno...

Some of the spread differences are quite large...

Thank you for sharing this information with us.


Magnus
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:01am Oct 19, 2007 11:01am
  •  amenlo9
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enter when price break 164.00.bank in some quick pips.price retrace at 163.70 until 164.00 again.and from 164.00 moving downward again.
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:05am Oct 19, 2007 11:05am
  •  Yuppie
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Quoting prosperfx
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Great posts today everyone! Magnus, I for one have benefited from you sharing your learning journey with us. Keep it up!

I think I trade the Rainbow differently than many people on the thread. I guess it is somewhat of a hybrid - Rainbow Scalping / Trend Following. Granted, I use the 30 second Rainbow to "follow the trend" and keep me in trades, which probably wouldn't be considered trend following to anyone else but Rainbow scalpers!

My point is that I have found something that works well for me. To be honest, my personal "strategy" in using LT's rainbow has come simply from practicing and adjusting - practicing again and adjusting more. Each day, and each trade, I get more comfortable with how I trade with the Rainbow. I want to see consistency for a month or two until I will feel like I have earned the right to go live, but in the meantime, I can refine my use of the Rainbow even more.

The thing I like about LT and his strategy is that fact that what I have just described is not only OK, but encouraged! I guess when I talked about "getting it" yesterday I was referring to this development of one's personal Rainbow style, not necessarily seeing how others interpret the Rainbow, spine or flame.

That being said, I am more than happy to share "what works for me" with the group, even though it may not work or appeal to them.

Glen

P.S. Sorry for the poor screen shot. I have yet to load my new screen capture program (thanks Magnus) on my PC!
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I agree with pretty much everything there Glen. Excellent post.

My problem was that I could not figure out how to interperate the flame at all. Never mind interpereting it in my own style!...

I believe I am getting there now though...


Magnus
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:12am Oct 19, 2007 11:12am
  •  Yuppie
  • | Joined Jun 2007 | Status: ̿ ̿ ̿̿'̿̿\̵͇̿̿\=(•̪●)=/̵͇̿̿/'̿̿ ̿ | 2,727 Posts
Quoting TheOne
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Great post Magnus.
Very well said.
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Thank you TheOne.

It may seem a bit overly, but I really felt the need to lay down my experience with this thread, and the adopting of the Rainbow concept...

It is a very simple method... But even simplicity is no match for someone who has mental blocks, on certain aspects, that just won't shift...

I am happy to say that in the last few days I have really been able to shift some of these blocks...


Magnus
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:14am Oct 19, 2007 11:14am
  •  prosperfx
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: Member | 82 Posts
Quoting Yuppie
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I agree with pretty much everything there Glen. Excellent post.

My problem was that I could not figure out how to interperate the flame at all. Never mind interpereting it in my own style!...

I believe I am getting there now though...


Magnus
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Thanks Magnus! For what it's worth, from the looks of your charts and interpretations, I think you are definitely getting it!

Glen
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:22am Oct 19, 2007 11:22am
  •  Yuppie
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Quoting prosperfx
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Thanks Magnus! For what it's worth, from the looks of your charts and interpretations, I think you are definitely getting it!

Glen
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Thanks Glen.


Ok, here is a chart with some of my interpretations of the flame... I tried to get one of the good bits of todays moves... Hopefully some people will have traded in this area...

I understand everyone will have different views on it... But hey, that's what trading is about...

I am pretty confident now that I am heading along the right track...


Magnus
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:28am Oct 19, 2007 11:28am
  •  Yuppie
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Quoting italianfx
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you made a good point here. I hate to trade break-out just because I see so many False break-out, but on another hand there also many True break-out like the last one. we can never know if a break-out will be good or not, so we must choose to trade them always or never.
Many people post only good break-out, but I can also post Many false break-out!
Personally I still don't know if I should jump in when the price spikes breaking a supp/resist. , I'm afraid of a false move but I also miss a lot of good opportunity. Usually I wait for a retracement but in the last few days the E-J seems to fly

the point I want to make is this: or we trade every break-out or not, there is no reason to trade one break-out and not another if we don't know which one will be good!

I hope you understand what I mean!
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Alessandro, your analysis is absolutely top rate. Thank you. Have a , , and another ...

Your post on Monday about hunting like a lion was great as well...

I am certainly benefiting from your analysis...

Keep up the sterling work...


magnus
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:33am Oct 19, 2007 11:33am
  •  prosperfx
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: Member | 82 Posts
Quoting Yuppie
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I am pretty confident now that I am heading along the right track...


Magnus
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Wow! That is an understatement if you ask me!

That chart, and interpretations, Are some of the best I have seen! I particularly found #11 great, as you tied the fact that the price was above the spine into your analysis. Great job Magnus!

Please keep this stuff coming!

Glen
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:33am Oct 19, 2007 11:33am
  •  atomz
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Quoting Yuppie
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The key difference between my entry and Amenlo9's is that the market was very quiet when I entered...
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It did not look quiet on your 5 sec. chart. You still need to watch 30 sec. chart and mark S/R levels. What do you think?
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:34am Oct 19, 2007 11:34am
  •  mazzhats
  • | Joined Sep 2007 | Status: Member | 27 Posts
I spoke to a person from MBT. Its nearly the same company like EFX.

"mattes805: is there another possibility.
mattes805: for charting
mattes805: hello?
MBT Gus: we are connected with esignal
MBT Gus: 4x made easy
MBT Gus: quote tracker
MBT Gus: and Top Gun"


U can look for one of these softwares, to connect with MBT or EFX.


 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:39am Oct 19, 2007 11:39am
  •  Yuppie
  • | Joined Jun 2007 | Status: ̿ ̿ ̿̿'̿̿\̵͇̿̿\=(•̪●)=/̵͇̿̿/'̿̿ ̿ | 2,727 Posts
Quoting prosperfx
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Wow! ... Please keep this stuff coming!
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I will if you will :...

Cool, thanks Glen!
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2007 11:45am Oct 19, 2007 11:45am
  •  jd442
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I got a response back from NinjaTrader that they will working with EFX/MBTrading sometime this year. The agreement is not finalized yet. Trollman just curious what tool or utility do you use when do agressive scalping? During these time I would think you are using some third party software to get in and out of trades quickly.
 
 
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