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  • First Post: Aug 26, 2007 7:01pm Aug 26, 2007 7:01pm
  •  tdion
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Can it finally be??? An MT4 broker interfacing to an ECN? It appears so at first glance.

1) Do you have experience w/ them?

2) How has your execution been?

Another thread here says that coesfx employees moved to spot-trader.com.... could be extremely good news!
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Can it finally be??? An MT4 broker interfacing to an ECN? It appears so at first glance.

1) Do you have experience w/ them?

2) How has your execution been?

Another thread here says that coesfx employees moved to spot-trader.com.... could be extremely good news!
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atcbrokers.com
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  • Aug 26, 2007 7:40pm Aug 26, 2007 7:40pm
  •  Digs
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atcbrokers.com

This brokers says MT4 GBPUSD spread is 3 pips. ( not MT4 pro )

Well is this fixed, are there other charges.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2007 7:47pm Aug 26, 2007 7:47pm
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atcbrokers.com

This brokers says MT4 GBPUSD spread is 3 pips. ( not MT4 pro )

Well is this fixed, are there other charges.
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that on the retail mt-4 they also have an ecn mt-4 see below

http://atcbrokers.com/index_forexpro.htm
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  •  tdion
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I emailed ATC last week about the MT4 ECN interface. Here's the response:

-----Original Message-----From: Thomas Dion
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:57 PMTo: [font=Arial][color=#0066cc][i][email protected][/i][/color][/font]
Subject: Re: Forex Contact: ATC

Jack,

It would appear that MT4 is already available in your Forex Pro section.

http://atcbrokers.com/forexpro_platforms_meta.htm

In your previous email, you said you were working on MT4 Currenex integration. Is it available yet? If not, is your MT4 strictly retail at the present time?

Thanks,Tom


Hi Tom,

We use to offer the MT 4 Pro with another clearing firm, however, we feltthat the connection was not done properly because our clients were gettingoff quotes, so we decided to purchase the software and do our ownconnection. The platform connection is currently being worked on and itsscheduled to be released in two months. The MT4 is on retail.

Jack,
 
 
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I emailed ATC last week about the MT4 ECN interface. Here's the response:

-----Original Message-----From: Thomas Dion
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:57 PMTo: [font=Arial][color=#0066cc][i][email protected][/i][/color][/font]
Subject: Re: Forex Contact: ATC

Jack,

It would appear that MT4 is already available in your Forex Pro section.

http://atcbrokers.com/forexpro_platforms_meta.htm

In your previous email, you said you were working on MT4 Currenex integration. Is it available yet? If not, is your MT4 strictly retail at the present time?

Thanks,Tom


Hi Tom,

We use to offer the MT 4 Pro with another clearing firm, however, we feltthat the connection was not done properly because our clients were gettingoff quotes, so we decided to purchase the software and do our ownconnection. The platform connection is currently being worked on and itsscheduled to be released in two months. The MT4 is on retail.

Jack,
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this is a good sign.
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  •  Digs
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hang on... Forex Pro MT4 at ATCBrokers (ECN Proposed).

GBPUSD
Leverage :3:100
Spread : 1 - 2 pips
Other Costs: Dunno

So I guess at current GBPUSD prices 2.000

To BUY one $100,000 GBP contract, a margin of $6000 USD is required, compared to leverage of 1:100 margin of $2000 USD.

I think I have my sums correct.

UPDATE : Oops it seams they may offer a choice :
http://atcbrokers.com/forexpro_resources_leverage.htm

QUESTION: Are there any commissions, fees etc with this ECN MT4 feed, any other costs at all, any ideas ??
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2007 9:36pm Aug 26, 2007 9:36pm
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hang on... Forex Pro MT4 at ATCBrokers (ECN Proposed).

GBPUSD
Leverage :3:100
Spread : 1 - 2 pips
Other Costs: Dunno

So I guess at current GBPUSD prices 2.000

To BUY one $100,000 GBP contract, a margin of $6000 USD is required, compared to leverage of 1:100 margin of $2000 USD.

I think I have my sums correct.

UPDATE : Oops it seams they may offer a choice :
http://atcbrokers.com/forexpro_resources_leverage.htm

QUESTION: Are there any commissions, fees etc with this ECN MT4 feed, any other costs at all, any ideas ??
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$10 usd per 100k round turn. leverage 100:1 for u.s. clients
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  • Aug 26, 2007 9:51pm Aug 26, 2007 9:51pm
  •  Digs
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$10 usd per 100k round turn. leverage 100:1 for u.s. clients

I assume from this brief statement that

Q1: ..."$10 usd per 100k round turn."..

Pip Value is equal $10 for GBPUSD, and NOT a $10 commission or fee extra or is it.

Q2:.."leverage 100:1 for u.s. clients"..

Where does it say this on the website ?
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2007 10:24pm Aug 26, 2007 10:24pm
  •  Moe
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$10 usd per 100k round turn. leverage 100:1 for u.s. clients

I assume from this brief statement that

Q1: ..."$10 usd per 100k round turn."..

Pip Value is equal $10 for GBPUSD, and NOT a $10 commission or fee extra or is it.

Q2:.."leverage 100:1 for u.s. clients"..

Where does it say this on the website ?
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you ask to many questions, just give them a call and they will explain all of this to you.
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  •  Moe
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b.t.w. if you don't have at least $10,000 to open an account there's no need to call them, unless you go with there retail.
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  • Aug 26, 2007 10:51pm Aug 26, 2007 10:51pm
  •  Moe
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Can it finally be??? An MT4 broker interfacing to an ECN? It appears so at first glance.

1) Do you have experience w/ them?

2) How has your execution been?

Another thread here says that coesfx employees moved to spot-trader.com.... could be extremely good news!
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would you trust spot-trader with $500,000 don't think so, just by there website they look like a fly by night company
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  • Aug 26, 2007 10:58pm Aug 26, 2007 10:58pm
  •  tdion
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$500K..... no. $5k, maybe.

I started this thread to get feedback from people already using them. Let's see what happens.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2007 11:04pm Aug 26, 2007 11:04pm
  •  Moe
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$500K..... no. $5k, maybe.

I started this thread to get feedback from people already using them. Let's see what happens.
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you fund your account with that 5k and your be posting a
different thread, ( how spot-trader ran off with my money ), l.o.l. just kidding
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  • Aug 26, 2007 11:05pm Aug 26, 2007 11:05pm
  •  Trader KGB
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The platform connection is currently being worked on and itsscheduled to be released in two months.
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They told me the exact same thing 2 months ago..
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2007 11:52pm Aug 26, 2007 11:52pm
  •  Digs
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www.spot-trader.com

This is a SWISS COY, and tighter rules than USA COY.

But yes there website looks very poor.
 
 
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  • Aug 27, 2007 12:28am Aug 27, 2007 12:28am
  •  Moe
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www.spot-trader.com

This is a SWISS COY, and tighter rules than USA COY.

But yes there website looks very poor.
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do you know who regulate them.
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  • Aug 27, 2007 12:37am Aug 27, 2007 12:37am
  •  Digs
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Swiss Govt ...

Federal Department of Finance in Switzerland
They cover all banks, finance institutions and brokers.

This seams to be the owner of Spot Forex

http://www.swissglobalbroker.net/about.php#location
 
 
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  •  Moe
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i have visit several swiss broker website and they clearly state who they or regulated by, spot-trader does not state who they or regulated by, why is that
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  • Aug 27, 2007 1:13am Aug 27, 2007 1:13am
  •  Moe
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with all that money floating around in swiss this is the best website they can come up with and they expect people to put up big money to trade with them or you kidding me.
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