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  • #461
  • Jan 16, 2012 8:41am Jan 16, 2012 8:41am
if that will produce nothing..

heres my daily chart (again..)


i still wont think much will happen before my arrow of doom.
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Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #462
  • Jan 16, 2012 2:45pm Jan 16, 2012 2:45pm
Quoting One day!
The book is called: "Mastering Hurst Cycle Analysis: A modern treatment of Hurst's original system of financial market analysis." by Christopher Grafton. I am still on the first chapter, so to early to review. I have learnt a few things already, but I am way behind you on the learning curve....

As for trading 5's - I never bought their book, but that is where I first came across Hurst.
I did'nt read the book of Hurst ;-(
I'm wondering if it's comparable with works done by Ehelers on cycle analysis or something different.
Somebody knows it?
  • #463
  • Jan 16, 2012 8:15pm Jan 16, 2012 8:15pm
hey JR look at this part of my trading life
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venus parallel neptune

going long eurousd - TP 100 pips.
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banked eu profits for +19. a trade is a trade.
its minor 'scalp' if u would call it. never let profit made become into substantial loss.
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EURO NOW
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what TRICKERY IS THIS?!!


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  • #464
  • Jan 18, 2012 1:31am Jan 18, 2012 1:31am
even larry williams uses cycles

http://www.ireallytrade.com/forecast.html


(i am not commercializing or advertising thisman or his products just a share)
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  • #465
  • Jan 18, 2012 8:27am Jan 18, 2012 8:27am
Quoting bumapatria
even larry williams uses cycles

http://www.ireallytrade.com/forecast.html


(i am not commercializing or advertising thisman or his products just a share)
Surprising. That guy used to be pretty anti-forecasting. He's probably one of the most vocal against Gann.
  • #466
  • Jan 18, 2012 4:14pm Jan 18, 2012 4:14pm
wow i didnt know that JR..

any ideas to what he bases his work on? i he is such an anti-gann guy i would think twice before going for his university , larry tv, and other products..
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  • #467
  • Jan 18, 2012 4:42pm Jan 18, 2012 4:42pm
heres for you buddy

the 50 sma might provide 'resistance' and the old support as well. price didnt crack weekly r1 and reached the bear trendline ; for time analysis there is the lunar perigee (apogees and perigees on gold are harmonious).

therefore im short till 1545. calling for a crash.





just saying - larry also called for a crash in first qt or half of year based on his "cycle analysis"..

your DJ and my DJ forecast might forecast the crash too.
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  • #468
  • Jan 18, 2012 9:50pm Jan 18, 2012 9:50pm
Quoting bumapatria
wow i didnt know that JR..

any ideas to what he bases his work on? i he is such an anti-gann guy i would think twice before going for his university , larry tv, and other products..
I think he's basing his cycle work on Martin Armstrong. Larry Williams has had a lot of controversy. I'm sure he's an excellent trader. I just find it interesting that's he's publishing cycle forecasts now considering how he was very negative to cyclical work and Gann in particular. But hey, I guess it's a good thing that he's a convert.
  • #469
  • Jan 18, 2012 9:56pm Jan 18, 2012 9:56pm
EUR/USD 2-3 day forecast on the 5 min. charts. Played out pretty well but is inverted now. The cycle forecast gives a very good general idea on the swings. I can then dial in some of the parameters to give near to the bar accuracy on the swings but it doesn't look as pretty. The horizontal lines are forecast based on price aspect clusters.
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  • #470
  • Jan 18, 2012 10:00pm Jan 18, 2012 10:00pm
I've been using screencast to store my images and vids. They pretty much suck. Hence why some of my charts are now not showing up. bastages.
  • #471
  • Jan 19, 2012 2:08am Jan 19, 2012 2:08am
Hi JR,

I have been reading through that new Hurst book that I mentioned a little while back and have reached a section where the author discusses the use of cycles to approximate time and price targets. Personally, given the wriggle room mentioned in the book, I think zones would be a more accurate description than targets....anyway, my reason for posting was to ask you whether you use your cycles to determine profit targets?

On another note, I have been using screencast for a couple of years without any trouble...maybe I have been lucky....

Regards

O'
  • #472
  • Jan 19, 2012 2:18am Jan 19, 2012 2:18am
yeah i use screencast too no problems...

i think cycles can be used for taking profit targets. an opposing view on a situation can always be used for TP. or a lock by going the opposite direction while holding the initial position. (Great to catch profits off off retraces while going by the trend).
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  • #473
  • Jan 19, 2012 2:32am Jan 19, 2012 2:32am
Quoting bumapatria
...Great to catch profits off off retraces while going by the trend.
Hi Buma,

I'm not so sure of that, given what I have read so far. This is just based on the tendency for trends to cause the projections to overshoot - due to underlying longer cycles following through - and counter trends to undershoot for the same reason. But if it works for you, great!

Regards

O'
  • #474
  • Jan 19, 2012 10:43pm Jan 19, 2012 10:43pm
Here are the last 2 days of euro forecast on the 5 min. I didn't trade much of it but got a small piece this morning when price was following the forecast almost to the T.

The horizontal lines are based on ephemeral price aspects. Which is actually the opposite of planetary aspects converted to price.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...19%2023.31.gif
  • #475
  • Jan 19, 2012 11:00pm Jan 19, 2012 11:00pm
Quoting JR97
Here are the last 2 days of euro forecast on the 5 min. I didn't trade much of it but got a small piece this morning when price was following the forecast almost to the T.

The horizontal lines are based on ephemeral price aspects. Which is actually the opposite of planetary aspects converted to price.
so u dont use the regular planetary longitude to price conversion? opposite? wow thats new... and must be secret as well

lets see the upcoming one fruit into a nice MASSIVE... drop
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  • #476
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:34am Jan 20, 2012 5:34am
heres my thoughts JR

i entered on lower timeframe on a nice sun 90 saturn aspect and as well as 138.2 extension and a 1x2 line. daily shows possibly more downtrend as well with mirroring.. or a rise... if we fall today itll make me consider if it would be a rise or fall - but some cycles do have a deviation of 1 - 3 bars therefore it does happen to 'lag' or be early.
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what worries me tho is that the sun 90 saturn didnt line up with my normal cycle in aqua...

price falling to it as well.
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what are ur thoughts?

and hows that forecast of urs went with the drop?
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  • #477
  • Jan 20, 2012 8:16am Jan 20, 2012 8:16am
Quoting JR97
Here are the last 2 days of euro forecast on the 5 min. I didn't trade much of it but got a small piece this morning when price was following the forecast almost to the T.

The horizontal lines are based on ephemeral price aspects. Which is actually the opposite of planetary aspects converted to price.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...19%2023.31.gif
Hi JR
is it possible to share the Cycle SW forecast ?
Thanks in advance
Fabio
  • #478
  • Jan 20, 2012 4:13pm Jan 20, 2012 4:13pm
Quoting One day!
Hi JR,

I have been reading through that new Hurst book that I mentioned a little while back and have reached a section where the author discusses the use of cycles to approximate time and price targets. Personally, given the wriggle room mentioned in the book, I think zones would be a more accurate description than targets....anyway, my reason for posting was to ask you whether you use your cycles to determine profit targets?

On another note, I have been using screencast for a couple of years without any trouble...maybe I have been lucky....

Regards

O'...
I have used Hurst to get price and time targets. The Trading Fives software that comes with their book has a program that gives a projected turning point. Not sure how useful it was because it would give one projection based on the inputs.
  • #479
  • Jan 20, 2012 4:15pm Jan 20, 2012 4:15pm
Quoting Fabio69
Hi JR
is it possible to share the Cycle SW forecast ?
Thanks in advance
Fabio
No. Not at this time.
  • #480
  • Jan 21, 2012 2:13am Jan 21, 2012 2:13am
Quoting JR97
No. Not at this time.
Hi JR
thanks I fully understand ;-)

I understood that you do not fully use Hurst to create the Cycle SW forecast correct?

Are you using some inpunt from Eheler stuff?
Fabio
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