Numerical analysis

I hope if some one can make a better Fibonacci indicator or expert for this method and make all variables to try it out and make some tests in it .
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Can you put the method into one post like a formula? Cause at the moment it's pretty much incomprehensible, you said it yourself you have errors in the first posts... A commented example would be great, too. I take it you don't use actual price quotes but rather the Fibo level numbers, like 100, 50, 38.2 etc?

Thanks!

i will do it thank you for you being patient and sorry for my bad English .



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Hello all

under any circumstance you should not trade this method real you should use demo only until you reach a level you believe you are aware of this method whole aspects and rules don't forget that rules have an exception and remember that any market is about bulls and bears that is the idea as warren buffet said before i don't remember his whole say but it describes the market .any one is trying to push prices his way so if price is going up that's means that bulls are buying every time the price goes down they will buy they will keep doing this with all there power .in opposite bears are selling every time a price make a new high bears will sell i advice all to look at real data market feeds of orders you find it at ECN brokers you can open a demo and look at it see how fast this fight is going open a demo at mbtrading and use there station .main one.or deltastock it will not be all market data but it represent part of it .
when you buy you are a bull that's means you are trying to push price to the up side you should realize that .
price don't move in its own .
that why we have sudden up move and sudden down move orders and trades move this market .
bears or bulls get there profit and close there positions this is the most biggest cause for sudden movement so try to decide which side you are get in and take your profit and get out fast .
yes your position is small but it also have a small effect so you should think in it that way you are fighting you buy and some one else sees you buy he sells and so on .
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Hi Orabi

Thnks for publishing yourformulas and your ideas of approaching the market which is very interesting

but it looks confusing theway you explain to us, I can understand is a complicated way of thinking

because the so called logic it is different to different individuals

so it will be easier for us if you apply your method on charts and explain it with examples how it works in the really world




thnks in advance

Hello tranco

my method is easy and not complicated

it is so easy

if you want catch a lion in an field like a jungle without using bullets just catch him in a cage that is our chart here you will look where this lion well go you analyze places he shows at at its relation .
you star by putting you cameras at certain places to watch the lion

this is our simple correct numbers here

we divide the battle field to simple correct number which is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

we assume that this numbers and correct and number should reach them to put a fact or value we can use as a stander to analyze the movement and find us the pattern of the price .

like the camera we have put in jungle to see where the lion will go in his daily activities .by observing the lion very well we will know where he will go next and what attract it and how to catch it with out using harming it or our self

ok we assumed that our chart is divided to simple numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

this are correct value we assumed the price will visit and correct from it is a rule now we applied it to have a simple logic and variable we can use in our equations to analyze the price movement .

we will then look at the space between this simple levels which price also could visit and we will try also to make it rules and variables so we could analyze things out .

we assumed that simple correct levels are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

and that they are facts the price should visit and if i did not visit and failed then we should count how much failure was

facts are always presented with number one as a logic variable

and unknown results or false results are represented with number zero

we know have our facts which are the simple numbers of levels we have 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 and so on

now we have the space between them which price could also move if this simple levels where fact

then this space will be false we should assume that and give it this variable 0

we made rule for our facts or correct level which is this simple chain 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and so on

now we will make rules for our spaces between this correct level

we assumed it is zero


form Fibonacci numbers rules we have which is 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 and so on

we can see that 0 + 0 = 1 why because we have 0 1 at start

it is Fibonacci rule to add number to previous to get next so to get 1 we need to have a number that we will add to 0 and get 1

this number will be 0 for sure why

because we have a 0 at start

now 0 +0=0

0-0=0

you see

it can be only zero

we assume that from Fibonacci rule and believe me 0 is a Fibonacci number also so it is as logic right

so we have 0 + 0 = 1

now we are making rules for the space will visit and may move in with its correction

this space is 0
this can be 1 also by adding 0 + 0 =1 and also 0 +0=0

so we have no problem we need facts so we will take the 0+0=1

we have proved that simple number chains have a common rule which

previous + 1 = next p + 1= n in a simple chain and that that equals digits

also the opposite chain which in opposite sequence have common rules

previous - 1 = next p-1=n in a simple opposite chain and that equals 10 digits

so we can say 10 = (p+1=n)=(p-1=n)

the two formula are opposite in logic so they equal zero

so 0 = 10 also


now we are getting more logical rules to define our space which is 0

0+0=1 this is rule number one

0 = 10 this is rule number two

so we could give our space a value now which is 0+0=1

10+10=20

we will divide this space in to 20 units

between every simple correct given number we will have 20 units

it is imaginary in our mind


now we will track the move of price in this field we have created and analyze will rules we had

fact equals 1 as a variable

i can prove that with this simple equation

fact =(fact-3)/2
let put 1 in fact place

fact =(1-3)/2
fact=2/2 = 1 you see

it is same

we got this equation as you can see in first posts from 1+2=3

one fact plus 2 actors = 3

so one factor which is a fact also = (fact-3)/2

we will use this equation to reach our goals and analyze movement in this field we have created


we have divided the chart in to correct simple lines with 20 unit between them

this all will be in our mind and we will look now for price movement analyze it and get out numbers to use in our formula to predict its next move

the way will be very easy it just need you to be more precise and careful in getting levels that price move to and correct that all

i hope this will help you up

all have a nice day

note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

we will try to make a predication now live one in one pair and see how it turns out

please all vote and choose the pair you want me to make a predication for

just write the pair you want and post it here and i will make the predication that's all

all have a nice day


note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

Thanks you asked:-)

What about EURUSD? (Lowest spread for me)

Need a second one?

GBPUSD (Take a walk on the wild side)

Wanna go crazy?

GBPJPY or EURJPY.

Anyway, great attempt you are showing here. Completely offroad, I like that.
I would like it even more if it was not only offroad but pretty successful (maybe then I would even try to understand you theory better:-) )

But who knows, it is never too late to learn something new every day.

so your vote is for eur usd we have one we will take another 2 votes only

i am not showing my friend i said it is a new way underdevelopment also i said that it only had a 70% success in last attempts so i am not showing i am thinking with a loud voice that's all


about this way and market as i said when you buy some one else sell

so this way from theory can not be 100% right but because price depend on big positions and trades it can

tell part of the truth that's all

all have a nice day

note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

i have better idea

i will post a predication for 10 pairs any one that is interested in knowing the rate of success place them in demo only and we will see the success rate .

it will take a long time but i will try to do it before market opens

i will be back later

all have a nice day


note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

please as i said in start of thread you should write what you think is related to the subject as many did

if you feel something dont post it here if you think of some think you can post it

all have a nice day



note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

Orabi:
we divide the battle field to simple correct number which is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
tranco:
What are the criteria to divide your charts the swing High/Lows, Randomly, (High – Low)/10 ?



it will be a great help ifyou open a chart and point your levels so we will completely understant
your thinking “A picture is worth a thousand words” ARISTOTELES

thnks

Hi tranco

you better divide it in your mind as i do so not to have many lines in chart but as you can see

in chart how i did it

i apply the fibo tool for first two candles i took it from this equation 0+0=1 which we took from Fibonacci rules

i look for a big correction in a trend and apply it i put the 0 level at the low of first candle and the 1 level at

high of second candle and then the simple numbers above them in up trend

or in down trend as in eur i apply it at high or first candle and low of second candle as you can see in eurusd now in the chart

i then look for levels of movement and correction precisely to use them out

i advice any one that dont have time to read or understand or think to stay away from this thread

no need to waste your time wait until view is cleared and rules are established very well and defined

as i said from start i opened this thread to share experience and thoughts about numerical analysis

which have many ways and this is just one of them i said it is promising way as i said in start of thread

so dont think this will be the holy grill .


this thread is to develop numerical trading method that's all

as i said i advice all to use demo only and to keep aware of the fact that nothing is 100% right

if we made some good and to some extent right predication that dont means we are right may be it was a coincidence no one knows so please dont waste your and my valuable time .

tranco i attached a chart

i dont draw this levels i keep them in my mind and try to find the levels of prices that it have visited and corrected from


i also attached a chart showing a real account i am using to develop this method take a look at it

all have a nice day

note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

Good idea for the ten pairs.

And don´t worry about me following you blindly, I am already successful, bit I will try to compare your method with my own analysis.

Let´s see where all this will aim to.

You stated:

fact =(fact-3)/2
let put 1 in fact place

fact =(1-3)/2
fact=2/2 = 1 you see

but dont we get 1-3 = -2?
so fact = -1?

yes you are right so it will be fact=(3-fact)/2

we will try both we got 1 at the end we have two logic forward and back word from our simple chain rules

which is how market moves up and down

that what i call positive thinking now we have two choices to think off and apply our variables

thank you very very very much for your correction sir

i am not good at numbers and my iq is not high as i said in start of thread that why i need more contribution

i made the first predication for eur usd it should be 1.29937 as a coming level .

i will try the other equation back word to see how things turns out

all have a nice day

note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

thanks for your fast reply



i look for a big correction in a trend and apply it i put the 0 level at the low of first candle and the 1 level at


So there are 10 equal spaces and each of them are equal in size of the 2 first bars
of the correction and these spaces are projected in the future


now we get the formula:
10 as factor & Fact
20 as Fact
0123 as tools
Factor = (Fact-3)*2
Fact=1=Factor

can you explain to us please how we apply this formula to the chart?

so we can code an indicator to do all these job for you and we call the indicator Orabi

thnks in advance

hi
referring to your 1st post regarding to share experiences i'd like to mention about this method (not exactly) to make it much clear
Using numbers for predicting future run, depends on the current trend:
I mean if you don't consider the current trend you can't predict the next run precisely, according to the numbers or levels
As i am trading by levels and better to say numbers during 5 years, finding out some levels are very important some days or months according to Big Traders' decision and will be ignored the other time
Experiencing is very important to find out their decision(Big Movers of Market) ,otherwise you are deadly right some days and definitely in wrong side of market other days

i made the predication with other equation Mr redlinefred corrected and gave me and made and it came at 5.22 level

as you can see

it was a level of correction and a doji candle also

you can see at chart

this post was edited

all have a nice day

note :- use demo only method still under evaluation

you are welcome tranco

the equation you are referring to is wrong i think although it may be useful in some thing i am not sure

we will see what we can reach from it in future

we will use this two fact=(3-fact)/2 this one mr redlinfred corrected for us

and fact=(fact-3)/2 this will be used also as a forward equation

we will see how both will do

all have a nice day

note :- use demo only method still under evaluation