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  • Feb 21, 2014 9:58am Feb 21, 2014 9:58am
  •  ddinnov
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An important distinction I learnt recently is that many rich people consider (quality) time to be real wealth.
Anything can happen.
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2014 3:16pm Feb 21, 2014 3:16pm
  •  smittens4212
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Who gives a shit what rich or poor people think?

Smart people realize that rich people are lucky.

There are far more factors out of your control which will determine whether you "make it" in life than there are things in your control.

Most Canadian and US professional hockey players are born within the same two months. Why? Because at the youth hockey level, being born in these months means you are able to play with the age group a year behind you, giving you an inherent physical advantage, leading to an increased chance of playing at higher level leagues, leading to better skills, and so on and so forth.

Many computer pioneers (e.g. Gates and Jobs) were born around the same time as each other, as they were fortunate to be of college age as computing as just beginning to take off. Born three years earlier or later and you probably missed the boat.

Look at the latest round of billionaires to hit the world? They're all young and were at the forefront of social networking just as it was beginning to take off.

The list is operating under such a ridiculously false premise and illusion that it's not worth picking a "best" because they're all junk.

But for example,

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17. Average people focus on saving. Rich people focus on earning.

Gee, you mean the people who already have enough savings to comfortably live for the rest of their life don't worry about saving for an unexpected medical problem? Or family emergency? Or whatever issue that people living in the real world have to deal with and worry about on a day to day basis? WHY I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!

Most of these aren't the thought patterns that helped someone become rich, they're the thought patterns of someone who is currently rich. There's a gap the size of the Grand Canyon separating the two. Of course the wealthy treat savings, risk, and a whole manner of things differently to the poor; they don't have to worry about what happens if that risk doesn't pan out. Do you think George Soros is worried that if his $1 billion short against the S&P goes belly up and he only has $19 billion left?

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2. Average people think selfishness is a vice. Rich people think selfishness is a virtue.

Well that probably has to do with the fact that social psychologists have proven a definitive correlation between wealth and psychopathy. The wealthier you are, the more selfish you become, the less mentally able you are to recognize suffering in other humans. Psychopathy, while a terrible trait for humanity in general, is a great trait if you want to become wealthy. A fairly large portion of successful politicians, CEOs, and other world leaders test highly for traits of psychopathy. When you're not worried about stepping over friends or family to get what you want, things become a bit easier.


 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2014 3:29pm Feb 21, 2014 3:29pm
  •  lcast
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I dare to say smittens4212 ... you've touched the hot spot
Don't swim with the sharks ...
 
 
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  •  Cujo2
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Smittens, how many of those people who were born within those same two months that didn't become Canadian and US professional hockey players? How many people who also went to college at around the same time as Gates and Jobs didn't make anything of it?

Oh, and I'll remind myself the next time I watch him on TV that "Richard Brandson is a psychopath" because "hey", you can't get anywhere without being a psychopath apparently. (Yes, I intentionally exaggerated the point.)

Yes, if you're a psychopath, you don't have to deal with 'petty' issues like morality and other problems. But that attitude in of itself also creates problems as well, requiring a different skill set to stay ahead (of the law!). Likewise, not being a psychopath doesn't automatically mean you can't do it. It just means it becomes a harder game to balance. A psychopath can also be a megalomaniac and as such would naturally gravitate towards positions of power. It's absurd drawing the conclusion that because many people in power are psychopaths therefore you need to be a psychopath to be in a position of power. On top of that, being selfish is not being a psychopath, we're all selfish in one way or another.

Yes, luck has a part to play in it - perhaps a really big part. But, capitalising on an opportunity requires you to come to the party as well. If it were only down to luck, I'd just spend my life flipping a coin until luck came my way. That isn't the case. Preparation is the other ingredient. Gates and Jobs not only were in the right place at the right time, they also had good habits and recognised the opportunity and because of their preparation, they then could capitalise on the opportunity. Hell, the fact that they had good habits, resources, the desire for ambition and were actively seeking out opportunities probably contributed to their luck.

This thread is about that preparation. What attitude / perspective contributes to ensuring that when an opportunity comes your way, you're paying attention, you're prepared with the right mindset and good habits and you're able to capitalise on it effectively.
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2014 12:57am Feb 22, 2014 12:57am
  •  Owl
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Luck is for losers as it doesn't exist and mix in the same plane and plateau as discipline

and great habits although I do understand why most would feel that there is a such thing

as luck and coincidence....me on the other hand believes everything happens for a reason

in due time as destiny has already been written out all the while still maintaining our own free will!!!

so live and think big and great all the time to get the desired outcome......
One Must Use A Noble Rapier To Pierce The Veil Of Mystery
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2014 1:04pm Feb 22, 2014 1:04pm
  •  vox dei
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Quoting smittens4212
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Who gives a shit what rich or poor people think? Smart people realize that rich people are lucky. There are far more factors out of your control which will determine whether you "make it" in life than there are things in your control. Most Canadian and US professional hockey players are born within the same two months. Why? Because at the youth hockey level, being born in these months means you are able to play with the age group a year behind you, giving you an inherent physical advantage, leading to an increased chance of playing at higher level...
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Malcolm Gladwell has presented the same thesis: http://gladwell.com/outliers/the-10000-hour-rule/

Gladwell's argument should not be taken as a complete explanation. It isn't. It comes as an antithesis to the widespread and widely accepted idea that success can be entirely accounted for by looking 'inside' the successful individual. It can't. 'No man (or woman ) is an island.' A full account of success must look both 'inside' and 'outside' the individual. That's the best approach to understand why some people are successful whereas others are not.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2014 2:00pm Feb 22, 2014 2:00pm
  •  vox dei
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Quoting Cujo2
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Smittens, how many of those people who were born within those same two months that didn't become Canadian and US professional hockey players? How many people who also went to college at around the same time as Gates and Jobs didn't make anything of it? Oh, and I'll remind myself the next time I watch him on TV that "Richard Brandson is a psychopath" because "hey", you can't get anywhere without being a psychopath apparently. (Yes, I intentionally exaggerated the point.) Yes, if you're a psychopath, you don't have to deal with 'petty' issues like...
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Good post Cujo. Not that Smittens post was bad. His post is good too. But, I tend to agree with you that successful people are not necessarily high in psychopathy. To me it's more like successful people have accepted Buddha's teachings on love: "You can search throughout the entire universe for someone who is more deserving of your love and affection than you are yourself, and that person is not to be found anywhere. You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe deserve your love and affection." It's like successful people are high on love and esteem for themselves, and consequentially feel completely deserving of good things coming their way/experience a high sense of self-entitlement (be it justified by merit, or not). Of course to the observer, merit can be hard to discern, and a high self-esteem can easily be confounded with negative aspects (eg., selfishness, egocentrism, narcisism, psychopathy, etc). If you ask me we should all accept and love ourselves a bit more, without overdoing it of course.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
 
 
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  • Feb 22, 2014 5:11pm Feb 22, 2014 5:11pm
  •  tinygiant
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{quote} There is a lot of wisdom in those quotes but my favorite is missing: Average people are paid for their time. Rich people are paid for their performance.
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My FRIEND I THINK ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Average people is paid for their performance Rich people is paid for their time. For rich people time is money. Average people squander away their most value asset TIME.
 
 
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  • Feb 23, 2014 12:50am Feb 23, 2014 12:50am
  •  Wolf_Wicked
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Luck is for losers as it doesn't exist and mix in the same plane and plateau as discipline and great habits although I do understand why most would feel that there is a such thing as luck and coincidence....me on the other hand believes everything happens for a reason in due time as destiny has already been written out all the while still maintaining our own free will!!! so live and think big and great all the time to get the desired outcome......
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Hi Owl, by your logic then masturbation is better than "the real thing".

How do owls do that anyway, secondly luck is certainly for losing trades, great call there, sometimes luck is what's required to swing that mutha back in the green. I loved what you said about luck there, great call.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQ1kTgpLfo
Howlin' at the Moon on the Roof
 
 
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  • Feb 23, 2014 1:10am Feb 23, 2014 1:10am
  •  Wolf_Wicked
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Quoting Owl
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Luck is for losers as it doesn't exist and mix in the same plane and plateau as discipline and great habits although I do understand why most would feel that there is a such thing as luck and coincidence....me on the other hand believes everything happens for a reason in due time as destiny has already been written out all the while still maintaining our own free will!!! so live and think big and great all the time to get the desired outcome......
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Just work with me here for a minute Owly my boy,

Lets say my blonde neighbor leaves her bathroom window adjar just enough and stands directly in my eye shot whilst she gets changed into nothing but black underwear and stays in that eye glass as she does her hair and make up...

It would appear my destiny is now at a cross roads... All a wolf needs to do here is raise a hand and wave and he is probably having sex tonight. Perhaps even the start of a long term relationship or awkward love triangle, a new birth to the earth? It all comes down to choices... Or a Wolf could fray and pretend he did not see this gorgeous blonde... It seem my dear boy that destiny is indeed in my hands, and this is just breakfast..

I believe we CREATE our own luck and being such a worshiper of the rags to riches mentality I am surprised you do not either. If you think that you have no hand in your future then I'm affraid my boy, that your future will be handed to you.

Hoo?
Howlin' at the Moon on the Roof
 
 
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  •  Owl
  • | Joined Dec 2012 | Status: FX Siphoner Of Symphonies | 435 Posts
Luck is for suckers it doesn't exist when dealing with specific precision during the execution of key points I.E it's either meant to be or it's not........anyways....

hoo is worshipping hoo when the accuser knows the every move and exact psyche of the allegedly accused party that is being calling out? LMFAO!!!!

I got you though wolfie and it's all good brother!!! LOL!!! And I'll entertain you for a bit

try this "The mind that opens to a new idea never comes back to it's original size" - Einstein

And this: One of the main problems with genius is how to transform what's perceived
in one's private understanding into a visible expression that's comprehensible
to other's. The revelation is usually complete and self explanatory to the one
who receives it but to make it so to others may take a lifetime...

Once again though nice try wolfie if your not trolling then you'll get it one day as it will always

come to together suddenly without you knowing when, as long as you keep working towards it

the expansion of the brain that is but I'll tell ya if your just speculating from the outside and not

trying to come in well then you'll never know what this is all about at the core level because everything

is superficial and synthetic right now on the material plane to the outsiders that look and try to view through........
One Must Use A Noble Rapier To Pierce The Veil Of Mystery
 
 
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  • Feb 24, 2014 2:50pm Feb 24, 2014 2:50pm
  •  smittens4212
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Smittens, how many of those people who were born within those same two months that didn't become Canadian and US professional hockey players? How many people who also went to college at around the same time as Gates and Jobs didn't make anything of it?
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That's just one broad category (birth month) that sticks out in the example given, how far do you want to take it? If you really want to get down to it, try addressing genetics and their enormous role in life, most of which is totally out of our control. Differences in cognition and learning (basically how smart you are) among populations can be accurately explained by differences in specific relevant genetic markers, as can differences in motivation. In other words, genetics can provide a very good estimate of how hard of a worker you are and how naturally intelligent you are, neither of which did you have any control over. As our understanding of human genetics and behavior increases, belief in free will as we know it will diminish-- it has to, and it already is.

How do you tell the person born with cognitive defects that they just have to work hard to be successful? Not only is it absurd, it's actually offensive, and it destroys the logical argument that success is primarily a function of hard work.

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Oh, and I'll remind myself the next time I watch him on TV that "Richard Brandson is a psychopath" because "hey", you can't get anywhere without being a psychopath apparently. (Yes, I intentionally exaggerated the point.)

Yes, if you're a psychopath, you don't have to deal with 'petty' issues like morality and other problems. But that attitude in of itself also creates problems as well, requiring a different skill set to stay ahead (of the law!). Likewise, not being a psychopath doesn't automatically mean you can't do it. It just means it becomes...

I don't know whether Richard Branson is a psychopath, I'm just stating scientific fact. Wealth correlates with a lack of empathy, which is the key trait of psychopathy. It obviously doesn't mean everyone who is wealthy is a psychopath. You were the one who drew that conclusion, not me. I said a fairly large proportion of successful leaders in various industries and spheres test highly for traits of psychopathy, and again, I'm just stating a fact.

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Yes, luck has a part to play in it - perhaps a really big part. But, capitalising on an opportunity requires you to come to the party as well. If it were only down to luck, I'd just spend my life flipping a coin until luck came my way. That isn't the case. Preparation is the other ingredient. Gates and Jobs not only were in the right place at the right time, they also had good habits and recognised the opportunity and because of their preparation, they then could capitalise on the opportunity. Hell, the fact that they had good habits, resources,...

Of course, that's obviously the case. Did I say that rich people don't work hard, don't prepare for success, don't capitalize on opportunities? I don't think I did. I said that rich people are lucky. They are. That's a fact.

Wealth is a function of work and opportunity.

The point is you can work as hard as you want, but if you never have the opportunity to capitalize on that hard work, you will never be successful. There are literally millions and millions of day laborers throughout the world who work harder than every single person who has posted in this thread, but by virtue of being born in North Korea or Myanmar, will never have a fraction of the opportunities any of us (assuming we're mostly westerners) had or will have in our lives.

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This thread is about that preparation. What attitude / perspective contributes to ensuring that when an opportunity comes your way, you're paying attention, you're prepared with the right mindset and good habits and you're able to capitalise on it effectively.

That's fine but the quotes are 21 ways rich people think differently than average people, and my point was that most of these have nothing to do with getting rich or preparing to capitalize on opportunities. And the ones that do are really, really lame cliches that I'd expect a 14 year old to write, not a world-traveling motivational speaker.

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14. Average people let money stress them out. Rich people find peace of mind in wealth.

Oh really, average people who have to worry about how they're going to pay all their bills get stressed out at money while rich people who have to worry about how they're going to spend their wealth find peace of mind in it?

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT??????????????????????

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16. Average people think rich people are snobs. Rich people just want to surround themselves with like-minded people.

Uhhh, yes, and that is literally the definition of snob.

snob: a person with an exaggerated respect for high social position or wealth who seeks to associate with social superiors
 
 
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"Average people work for a job they dislike, ... to buy the things they can't afford, ... to impress the people they don't like."
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TRUTH!!
 
 
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  •  PoundTrader
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owl was to much guys i block him from posting in here again
 
 
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owl was to much guys i block him from posting in here again
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I appreciate your thread! Sorry to trample on it
 
 
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{quote} I appreciate your thread! Sorry to trample on it
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shit happens some times
 
 
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  •  michaelpelly
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Nice one! :-)

What is worth noticing that trollers always find some excuses to explain why several billionaires got their wealth. But nobody actually consider that having a business $10 million worth still can provide nice financial comfort for you and your family. It is the world of black and white again - suckers always think that way. I don't want to be fantastically rich - $250000 passive income per year will do great for me - and that is something very achievable if one focuses it's energy to create the opportunity for it.
 
 
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  •  Mingary
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Spend 2/3 of your working time on your job so you can pay the bills
and
Never pay rent. Start owning a home you can afford as soon as possible.
and
Never borrow to purchase depreciating assets (for example - a vehicle - a wife )
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Spend 1/3 of your working time on some speculative effort so you have a chance at getting financially independent.

Let it sink in the marrow of your bones that the borrower is slave to the lender.
 
 
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  •  michaelpelly
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Spend 2/3 of your working time on your job so you can pay the bills and Never pay rent. Start owning a home you can afford as soon as possible. and Never borrow to purchase depreciating assets (for example - a vehicle - a wife ) and Spend 1/3 of your working time on some speculative effort so you have a chance at getting financially independent.
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No, no, and no!

Never focus on saving and spending restrictions - always seek a way for more income (preferably passive).
 
 
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  •  Mingary
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{quote} No, no, and no! Never focus on saving and spending restrictions - always seek a way for more income (preferably passive).
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And who pays your bills while you "seek a way for more income (preferably passive)" ?
 
 
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