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Missing Object List

  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Mar 7, 2011 10:11am Feb 10, 2011 4:50am | Edited Mar 7, 2011 10:11am
I have looked all over for a solution to this. So now I come to the masters with a bowed head and humble heart. Ok so maybe a little dramatic.


Using MT4 Build 221 with 7.

If I right click and select "Object List" it gives a momentary flash like the list has been pulled up but then disappears as if you have minimized it. It is open because you cant do anything else on the chart till you close it. Trouble is since you can't see it you can't close it and must shut down MT4 using the Windows Task Manager.

???????
  • #2
  • Feb 15, 2011 8:40pm Feb 15, 2011 8:40pm
Just thought I would give it one more try and see if anyone has a solution.
  • #3
  • Feb 16, 2011 12:44am Feb 16, 2011 12:44am
hi bapxyz,

object list window showed as modal window, thats why it blocks all windows behind it. to close it safely without closing MT4, press Alt-F4.

but what you need is how to make this window shows normally. have you tried reinstall MT4?
  • #4
  • Mar 5, 2011 9:04am Mar 5, 2011 9:04am
Thanks Sangmane,
The Alt-F4 works great.
I still cant see the object list though. I have not reloaded MT4 because I dont want to loose all my historic objects. I use them for anal. and keep notes on my charts. If there was a way I could save all my objects and then load them into a new download of MT4 that would be great.
  • #5
  • Mar 5, 2011 9:17am Mar 5, 2011 9:17am
Quoting bapxyz
Thanks Sangmane,
The Alt-F4 works great.
I still cant see the object list though. I have not reloaded MT4 because I dont want to loose all my historic objects. I use them for anal. and keep notes on my charts. If there was a way I could save all my objects and then load them into a new download of MT4 that would be great.
you use them for what???
  • #6
  • Mar 5, 2011 9:50am Mar 5, 2011 9:50am
Quoting sangmane
you use them for what???
hahaha... I believe he meant "I use them for analysis"
Programming for a better future.
  • #7
  • Mar 5, 2011 9:53am Mar 5, 2011 9:53am
Windows Shitsta is a failure of Microsoft.

Try installing MT4 in a folder other than "Program Files".

e.g. C:\MyMT4Platforms\Metatrader 4

Hope that'll solve your problem.

regards,
Zen
Programming for a better future.
  • #8
  • Mar 5, 2011 10:00am Mar 5, 2011 10:00am
Quoting bapxyz
If there was a way I could save all my objects and then load them into a new download of MT4 that would be great.
There is a way. All currently opened charts are saved in the profiles/default folder (or whichever other profile you are using). Make a backup of this folder and restore it. You can also open these files in notepad and see an <object> entry for each object on the chart.
  • #9
  • Mar 5, 2011 10:09am Mar 5, 2011 10:09am
Quoting Zen_Leow
Windows Shitsta is a failure of Microsoft.

Try installing MT4 in a folder other than "Program Files".
Its not the fault of vista, its the fault of MetaQuotes for using the wrong folders to save its data. Vista is not to blame here.

The folder layout that is now exclusively used and enforced in Vista has been publicly announced and promoted and recommended already since the late 90's and all other applications you can buy for money or download for free on this planet use it already since the existence of Windows 2000. Only in some cold and far away regions in northern Siberia where the MetaQuotes headquarters are located this is still unknown, they are still using Windows 95 there.
  • #10
  • Edited 11:32am Mar 6, 2011 10:48am | Edited 11:32am
Thanks everyone.

I thought I had tried the Profile copy procedure but let me try again.
Apparently I can't work with MT4, spell or abbreviate.

Interesting you should mention the structure of MT4. I was in a discussion last night and someone was commenting that MT5 is extremely confusing.

I'll post back if I ever figure out what my problem resolution is.

O yea I should say that, I said Vista to throw you off (kidding) I actually have 7. Sorry I know I should be beat for that.
  • #11
  • Mar 6, 2011 12:51pm Mar 6, 2011 12:51pm
Quoting bapxyz
Thanks everyone.

I thought I had tried the Profile copy procedure but let me try again.
Apparently I can't work with MT4, spell or abbreviate.

Interesting you should mention the structure of MT4. I was in a discussion last night and someone was commenting that MT5 is extremely confusing.

I'll post back if I ever figure out what my problem resolution is.

O yea I should say that, I said Vista to throw you off (kidding) I actually have 7. Sorry I know I should be beat for that.
Hello,
I would like some more info to try to help you.

 

  1. Has this always been a problem or is this something that has worked before but now is a new problem?
  2. Have you installed any new programs lately, especially any new security or antivirus type programs?
  3. Does the indicator list window pop up and display correctly?

You might want to check to see if you have installed a program recently by going to Control Panel/Programs/Programs and Features/Uninstall and then click on the Installed On heading and that will list all your installed programs in chronological order. Sometimes we forget what we have installed. See image below.
http://i54.tinypic.com/1zyx3xt.png
Maybe it will ring a bell and you might see a time line where you installed a program and where you started having a problem with the mt4 features and this will help you figure out where your conflict is. If you research shows that it might be a security/antivirus/trojan type program, you can then start searching around in that programs settings and see if you can find a setting that needs to be turned off/on or maybe adding your mt4 program to an ignore list etc. This will take some trial and error to find the problem but I'm sure we can find it. I'm running Win7 Ultimate 64bit with no problems.
Let me know what you find...

SatchFan

  • #12
  • Mar 6, 2011 9:13pm Mar 6, 2011 9:13pm
Thanks for your efforts SachFan

I checked the programs. There are some that are possibly installs about the time this problem started. However it is way out of my realm of experience to determine if they could be the problem.

They are :

Two Service Pack 2's
One Sp2 Parser and SDK
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 (2 files)
Microsoft Silverlight
Adobe Reader X (10.0.1)
Adobe Flash Player 10

Also I tried to copy the Program files as 7pip suggested. I put the files on a flash drive, compared them to what is on the desktop to be sure I had the correct files, pasted them into the correct area of a laptop, gave all the requested permissions to replace, waited while it did its thing and WA-LA nothing changed on the laptop MT4.?

I recently noticed something strange I have to look into. The desktop is a Gateway. Recently I have a message that I don't have enough room on Drive D for backups. The main drive C is 580 GB this drive D they are talking about is listed as 15.4 GB. At first I just thought it was a partition in C. But no they are showing another hard drive in this computer. Now about 8 months ago I put a new graphics card in this thing and I don't remember seeing another hard drive. Where would you even get one that small.

Anyway I have to leave on business for three to four weeks the day after tomorrow so I probably won't get a chance to get in there. But I am just interested to figure this out b4 I reload MT4.
  • #13
  • Mar 6, 2011 9:17pm Mar 6, 2011 9:17pm
Quoting bapxyz
Thanks for your efforts SachFan

I checked the programs. There are some that are possibly installs about the time this problem started. However it is way out of my realm of experience to determine if they could be the problem.

They are :

Two Service Pack 2's
One Sp2 Parser and SDK
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 (2 files)
Microsoft Silverlight
Adobe Reader X (10.0.1)
Adobe Flash Player 10

Also I tried to copy the Program files as 7pip suggested. I put the files on a flash drive, compared them to what is on the desktop to be sure I had the correct files,...
Please keep me informed. One more thing before you go, when you try to bring up the Indicator list, does it show correctly?
  • #14
  • Mar 7, 2011 10:09am Mar 7, 2011 10:09am
SatchFan

Yes it does, BUT, I now have a new problem, so I am leaning toward a system solution.

This AM when I pulled up MT4 I had to re-select my tool bars. I use custom bars so this was very strange. The custom arrangement was there when I re-selected the bar ? This has happened twice this AM.
  • #15
  • Last Post: Apr 4, 2011 5:49pm Apr 4, 2011 5:49pm
I'm back.
Having returned from my real job as "super hero saving the world". I fired up the computer I was having trouble with, and what do you know, It still had a problem.
So now I deleted MT4 and then installed a new download. When I logged in with the new download There where all my old charts with all the notes and indicators AND all the problems.
Long story short I eventually installed MT4 in a different path of the C: drive, as Zen Lowe had suggested a month ago. Now everything works just great.
No idea where the files are hiding that cause the templates re-appear. But maybe someone will find this helpful.
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