Planetary cycles, astrological theory of cycles of the markets | Page 21 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

W.D. Gann planetary price & timing analysis 147 replies

Planetary Cycles Trading (EUR/USD) 14,770 replies

Opinions on "Planetary cycles, astrological theory .. of the markets" 41 replies

Planetary / Astrology indicators 3 replies

Planetary Cycles... Plotting Cycles into the Future 0 replies

Attachments: Planetary cycles, astrological theory of cycles of the markets
Exit Attachments

Planetary cycles, astrological theory of cycles of the markets

  • #401
  • Mar 13, 2011 9:10am Mar 13, 2011 9:10am
Quoting StephanusR
Very good point, I overlooked this. Lets put down a rule then that says the trader must open every trade with TP and SP = 20.
Well, I don't know about that theory.
In theory you can say that markets are random and each trade has a 50-50 chance of winning.
But then you are not considering a lot of things, like trending, sl/tp, trader sentiment etc.
I have made a few quick analysis on my testing platform. I used some EA and will show you the result. I mean, it was quick, I used quick point reference etc, it should not be considered for trading. But, I think it will prove a point.

I used the same timeframe for all trades 4h, same currency eurusd, same data, from 2000 till 2010 so it will have seen all markets, bull, bear, panic, sideways etc.

1st chart is the MACD that comes standard with MT4
2nd chart is same MACD EA with 20/20 tp/sl
3rd chart is a random EA that opens position at random, with random sl/tp and lots.
4th chart is an EA that I developed based upon moon declination and very specific rules. And I need to add that in this mode it doesn't open many trades.

So decide for yourself.
Attached Image(s) (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: graph macd1.png Size: 11 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: graph macd2.png Size: 10 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: graph random.png Size: 14 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: graph decla.png Size: 17 KB
  • #402
  • Mar 13, 2011 9:18am Mar 13, 2011 9:18am
Quoting Suryananda
From 12-03-2011 23:44 GMT to 19-mar-2011.

GBPUSD Sell.
GBPJPY Sell.
Suryananda,yo no creo que tu me entendieste correcto.
Mi pergunta era el effecto de "supermoon."

?Crees que el supermoon va a causar que el mercado bull/or bear.?

Gracias.
  • #403
  • Mar 13, 2011 11:30am Mar 13, 2011 11:30am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Well, I don't know about that theory.
In theory you can say that markets are random and each trade has a 50-50 chance of winning.
But then you are not considering a lot of things, like trending, sl/tp, trader sentiment etc.
I have made a few quick analysis on my testing platform. I used some EA and will show you the result. I mean, it was quick, I used quick point reference etc, it should not be considered for trading. But, I think it will prove a point.

I used the same timeframe for all trades 4h, same currency eurusd, same data, from...
Backtesting don't count at all, suffers from data snooping bias. Rather upload a real Oanda account MT4 that you traded the last month because we all do have Oanda accounts don't we?

Their spreads are the best and with a trade copier as per
http://groups.google.com/group/futur...b897605407a9a8

you can copy your main platform be it say AAAFX to Oanda. In short a trader who wants to sell a service or market himself must show us his Oanda real account. If he claims to not have an oanda account he is most probably lying.
  • #404
  • Mar 13, 2011 1:19pm Mar 13, 2011 1:19pm
Quoting StephanusR
Backtesting don't count at all, suffers from data snooping bias. Rather upload a real Oanda account MT4 that you traded the last month because we all do have Oanda accounts don't we?

Their spreads are the best and with a trade copier as per
http://groups.google.com/group/futur...b897605407a9a8

you can copy your main platform be it say AAAFX to Oanda. In short a trader who wants to sell a service or market himself must show us his Oanda real account. If he claims to not have an oanda account he is...
Why would I want to sell you a service?
  • #405
  • Mar 13, 2011 1:37pm Mar 13, 2011 1:37pm
Quoting StephanusR
Backtesting don't count at all, suffers from data snooping bias.
Well, don't consider this then....

Total random trade placer but now it only places a trade in the direction of the larger (50ma) trend on a 1h chart.

And to be honest, I think it has potential.
Very large drawdowns at points, but nothing a little MM cannot fix.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: resultrandom.png Size: 23 KB
  • #406
  • Mar 13, 2011 7:39pm Mar 13, 2011 7:39pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Suryananda,yo no creo que tu me entendieste correcto.
Mi pergunta era el effecto de "supermoon."
?Crees que el supermoon va a causar que el mercado bull/or bear.?
Gracias.
Hi!

I work the wheat-corn spread.
I think the agricultural market can go up much with the super-moon on the 19th to 3rd April.
I think it may be a good opportunity to be LONG, especially in soybeans and wheat.

Regards
  • #407
  • Mar 13, 2011 8:00pm Mar 13, 2011 8:00pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Why would I want to sell you a service?
Ilovepipin,

This controversy is ridiculous.
If Mr. Stephanus wants to work with astrology that him studied astrology, astronomy and hermetic philosophy.
Because the origin of the astrology is Greek Neoplatonic Hermetic and is the philosophical basis of Freemasonry. W. D. Gann was a Mason.

Most people do not want to study these things, they just want to gain pips easily.
  • #408
  • Mar 13, 2011 10:07pm Mar 13, 2011 10:07pm
Quoting Suryananda
Hi!

I work the wheat-corn spread.
I think the agricultural market can go up much with the super-moon on the 19th to 3rd April.
I think it may be a good opportunity to be LONG, especially in soybeans and wheat.

Regards
Thank you.
Caution though, because the corn chart is showing divergence in MACD and volume. It also broke the upward trendline.
Chances are that a top is in.
However, with the disaster commodities may rise again.
Watch the trendline, a retest is likely. On an upward break I will be more willing to follow a bullish scenario.
Attached Image
  • #409
  • Mar 14, 2011 1:38am Mar 14, 2011 1:38am
Quoting Suryananda
I usually calculate ayanamsa Lahiri or ayanamsa Fagan-Bradley.

These charts from him are tropical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siderea...ical_astrology

http://www.lunarplanner.com/siderealastrology.html

http://www.mountainman.com.au/essene...0estimates.htm


Regards.
Thank you for the great links, you are an educator in your own right. I have ordered the Lunarplanner journal, doing this could be great.

The question right or wrong doesn`t bother me at all, I see this as education in the ancient foundations of civilizations.

Please continue !




____________
michael
Be like water.
  • #410
  • Mar 15, 2011 10:27am Mar 15, 2011 10:27am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Thank you.
Caution though, because the corn chart is showing divergence in MACD and volume. It also broke the upward trendline.
Chances are that a top is in.
However, with the disaster commodities may rise again.
Watch the trendline, a retest is likely. On an upward break I will be more willing to follow a bullish scenario.
... umm, Pipp, what chart you are showing, Corn ? The price for Corn is at 650 right now, isn't it?... but yes, Corn, wheat falling like a stone ...
  • #411
  • Mar 15, 2011 11:23am Mar 15, 2011 11:23am
Hi Suryananda! What´s your mind about George Bayer and his books? By the way, the Japan´s earthqueake was that black swan ("unexpected event") that markets needed to fall. Do you think markets turn bearish because of it?

Good luck!
  • #412
  • Edited 4:37am Mar 16, 2011 12:49am | Edited 4:37am
Quoting Mandragora
Hi Suryananda! What´s your mind about George Bayer and his books? By the way, the Japan´s earthqueake was that black swan ("unexpected event") that markets needed to fall. Do you think markets turn bearish because of it?

Good luck!
Hello!

Bayer, Bradley, Merriman, that's not true astrology.

To understand the true astrology you have to study Medieval Astrology.

The Medieval Astrologers believed that earthquakes could be studied in the New Moon before of the start of the tropical year.

I upload the chart of the New Moon before of the start of the tropical year in Sendai, where more are suffering the earthquake.

There is a Stellium in the House 1 and in Aquarius. The Stellium are bad.

The ruling planet of Aquarius is Saturn. This is a bad planet.
And Saturn is in 8 th house, it is the house of death!

Also Saturn is in Virgo. Virgo is an Earth sign. Meaning that death came from the Earth.

Calculating Houses equal to signs whole there is an opposition of Saturn to Stellium and Uranus. This planet symbolizes the nuclear energy.
Uranus is in Pisces. Piscis is a Water sign. Fukushima nuclear plant is on the seafront!

The Hyleg of this chart is the Sun in Aquarius, which is a bad sign for the Sun and the rulership of Aquarius is Saturn, which is in the house of Death.

The Hyleg by Ptolemy would be the Moon.

The Sendai's people is signified by the Moon, and this is in conjunction with Mars and Uranus and in opposition to a Saturn.
Mars, Saturn and Uranus are not good planets.

Conclusion:

Astrology is a reading of symbolic values.
Astrology is not a science, it is an art.
But it works well.

http://www.articlesbase.com/astrolog...s-1936256.html

http://www.astrology.co.uk/news/quakes.htm

Best wishes.
.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Lunación Previa Primavera 2011, Sendai..jpg Size: 66 KB
  • #413
  • Mar 16, 2011 5:21am Mar 16, 2011 5:21am
On this account I work only with astrology.

Astrology is not scientific, but....
.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: DT1.jpg Size: 65 KB
  • #414
  • Mar 16, 2011 8:54am Mar 16, 2011 8:54am
Quoting Suryananda
Hello!

Bayer, Bradley, Merriman, that's not true astrology.

To understand the true astrology you have to study Medieval Astrology.

The Medieval Astrologers believed that earthquakes could be studied in the New Moon before of the start of the tropical year.

I upload the chart of the New Moon before of the start of the tropical year in Sendai, where more are suffering the earthquake.

There is a Stellium in the House 1 and in Aquarius. The Stellium are bad.

The ruling planet of Aquarius is Saturn. This is a bad planet.
And Saturn is in...
Is it a coincidence that at the time of the quake Uranus was ingressing into Aries?
  • #415
  • Mar 16, 2011 9:40am Mar 16, 2011 9:40am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Is it a coincidence that at the time of the quake Uranus was ingressing into Aries?
In tropical Uranus is 24º more that ayanamsa Lahiri or Fagan.

In sideral Uranus is in Piscis.
  • #416
  • Mar 16, 2011 3:59pm Mar 16, 2011 3:59pm
Quoting Suryananda
In tropical Uranus is 24º more that ayanamsa Lahiri or Fagan.

In sideral Uranus is in Piscis.
According to Swiss ephemeris Uranus in Taurus on 3/12/2011.
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2011.pdf
  • #417
  • Mar 17, 2011 2:19am Mar 17, 2011 2:19am
Quoting Ilovepippin
According to Swiss ephemeris Uranus in Taurus on 3/12/2011.
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2011.pdf
Swisse ephemeris is tropical astrology.

Tropical astrology is a mistake from Hipparchus and extended by Ptolemy and Neoplatonism.

But Berosus and Erastosthenes used as point gamma the Pleiades. They were prior to Hipparchus.

This error has been corrected in the tenth century by Ben Ezra, astrologers Hispano-Arabic and the French Pierre d'Ailly.

Pierre d'Ailly was a professor of astrology at the University of Paris and in this university Nostradamus learned astrology.

Spanish medieval astrology used the sidereal zodiac.

The Spanish astrologer Abraham Zacuto also used sideral astrology in the fifteenth century. He was the master of Christopher Columbus.

To have to study medieval astrology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonsine_tables

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_...of_Translators

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6044

Regards.
  • #418
  • Mar 17, 2011 7:30am Mar 17, 2011 7:30am
Quoting Suryananda
Swisse ephemeris is tropical astrology.

Tropical astrology is a mistake from Hipparchus and extended by Ptolemy and Neoplatonism.

But Berosus and Erastosthenes used as point gamma the Pleiades. They were prior to Hipparchus.

This error has been corrected in the tenth century by Ben Ezra, astrologers Hispano-Arabic and the French Pierre d'Ailly.

Pierre d'Ailly was a professor of astrology at the University of Paris and in this university Nostradamus learned astrology.

Spanish medieval astrology used the sidereal zodiac.

The Spanish astrologer...
Well, can't argue with reason .
I saw a documentary on Nostradamus just the other day, and it was very clear to me that he used astrology, eventhough the documentary did not make that very clear.
He lived in the time of the inquisition, not a very good time to be predicting things to say the least. That is why he had to write in a concealed language.
Very interesting all of this. Astrology was the science of those times and then was forgotten. Once you know that, you look totally different towards history.
  • #419
  • Mar 17, 2011 11:18am Mar 17, 2011 11:18am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Well, can't argue with reason .
I saw a documentary on Nostradamus just the other day, and it was very clear to me that he used astrology, eventhough the documentary did not make that very clear.
He lived in the time of the inquisition, not a very good time to be predicting things to say the least. That is why he had to write in a concealed language.
Very interesting all of this. Astrology was the science of those times and then was forgotten. Once you know that, you look totally different towards history.
From sixteenth century the natal astrology was prohibited. All other astrology was allowed.

Astrology was used in medicine. Nostradamus was a doctor, like Cardan and William Lilly. It is 100% sure that Nostradamus was studied astrology. He was working as astrologer and physician at the Medici court.
  • #420
  • Mar 17, 2011 8:01pm Mar 17, 2011 8:01pm
Quoting Suryananda
From sixteenth century the natal astrology was prohibited. All other astrology was allowed.

Astrology was used in medicine. Nostradamus was a doctor, like Cardan and William Lilly. It is 100% sure that Nostradamus was studied astrology. He was working as astrologer and physician at the Medici court.
So, Sun will ingress in Taurus and oppose Uranus next week.

On the tropical sidereal last time Uranus changed signs, was 84 years ago, 1927. A time of great economic upheaval.
If we take the 20 year cycle, and 40 year cycle, they add up to that same period.
It would also mean we have some years of economic turmoil left.
1 trader viewing now