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  •  Brb-Fraudin
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When there is a strong move , upward or downward , then this move halted or got weak. What do u call this decrease? Decrease of speed , momentum or volume??

Also what is your favourite method to measure movement exhaution when approaching key levels?? other than candlestick patterns of course.
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??? There are pretty good traders posting in this forum.
 
 
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Momentum= moving many pips in a short period of time
Volume= if there is a big trend, more traders have jumped on the wagoon. So there is much volume.

so the bigger the momentum, the bigger the volume as well.
 
 
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Momentum= moving many pips in a short period of time
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Thats the same definition of speed??
 
 
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Not necessarily, speed can be associated with lack of volume which makes price erratic.
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Define Speed in Forex. I understand Momentum & Volume, What do you mean by speed, this depends on your timeframe ?
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Define Speed in Forex. I understand Momentum & Volume, What do you mean by speed, this depends on your timeframe ?
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A long candle in any time frame should represent a "fast" movement. Where price quickly change /time.

Velocity = distance/time
So in FX velocity = pips/time.

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BRB, in short, I agree. Velocity=speed=pips over time.
Actual volume is impossible to measure, so tick volume is used as a proxy by some for real volume. But tick volume is v.v.v. tightly correlated to OHLC data, which you can see on a normal candle, so it doesn't offer any additional info.

As baron says, momentum suggests follow through, which isn't always the case. Eg stop runs faded by big players move very quickly up and then down.
 
 
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When there is a strong move , upward or downward , then this move halted or got weak. What do u call this decrease? Decrease of speed , momentum or volume??

Also what is your favourite method to measure movement exhaution when approaching key levels?? other than candlestick patterns of course.
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I define speed as the slope of a fast moving average or trend line - there is a histogram indicator for the angle / slope of a MA and using a Gann Angle line you can calculate the angle.

All moves tend to be in waves - a move followed by a retrace. For me, when the latest move has fewer pips than the previous move the momentum is decreasing and vice versa.

Volume is showing the ammount of participants enttering or exiting the market and by using Volume Spread Analysis we can draw conclusions about possible continuations or turning points.
Trading Levels with WRBs & Aggressive, Volatile Volume
 
 
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When there is a strong move , upward or downward , then this move halted or got weak. What do u call this decrease? Decrease of speed , momentum or volume??

Also what is your favourite method to measure movement exhaution when approaching key levels?? other than candlestick patterns of course.
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Speed = high (pips/time) ;
momentum = almost constant (pips/time) over a certain period ;
volume = I don't have volume in my forex charts.

If your strong move got halted --> perfect entry point for a reversal.
If your strong move got weak --> perfect entry point for a trend continuation.

I don't use key levels, candlestick patterns or movement exhaustion.
Depending on your strategy, if for example you're following a downtrend on the 30 min chart, you could say that if CCI 14 period on 5 min chart gets over 100 or if it stays over 100 for more than 3 periods, your trend is getting erratic and you should switch to another approach.
That's not what I do but that's an idea.
 
 
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