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  • First Post: Edited Jul 15, 2013 3:24am Aug 29, 2009 3:35am | Edited Jul 15, 2013 3:24am
  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: <-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Hello To all the good people! (Not to bad ones )

I am starting this thread for helping out people struggling with backtesting due to following reasons :
- Their PC takes too much time backtesting
- Strategy really takes big number of calculations while backtesting (taking the time up)
- Have very small data available
- PC crashes/Hangs/MT4 crashes while backtesting (happens sometimes due to resource overusage)
- They need to save time to do other related research.


MY WORK:
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I will backtest strategy for you for free using my high resource, high speed Server i just bought...
and post the results asap, in the form of Detailed Statement for the required settings !

REQUIREMENTS:
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- 5 Requests/Member (Will be changed/unlimited depending upon Thread response)
- Provide all Indicators, EA's, Settings (Settings Sets preferably)
(NOTE : Settings *.set file is mandatory in case strategy has too many settings to change)
- Zip All above to one file before uploading.
- Provide the Time Frame to Test on.
- Provide the Pair to Test.
- Any other setting he/she wants enabled.
- Any other required details.



REASON:
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- Just want to help , as i needed in past, when my 1.5ghz processor always took ages!
- Use my Server nicely to get the mileage off my bucks !


Best Regards
ForexSaint



Update 1: (29th May 2012)
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  • Aug 29, 2009 6:55am Aug 29, 2009 6:55am
  •  Ronald Raygun
  • Joined Jul 2007 | Status: 32 y/o Investor/Trader/Programmer | 5,016 Posts
I could be wrong, but this seems like you're trying to get a lot of EAs and systems for free...

Could you perhaps post a sample backtest or maybe post proof that you have good data?
 
 
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  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting Ronald Raygun
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I could be wrong, but this seems like you're trying to get a lot of EAs and systems for free...

Could you perhaps post a sample backtest or maybe post proof that you have good data?
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lol.. ronald.. a while back, after posting this..i thought, definitely some1 will post this. Ya people think no one does anythng without a reason..i have a reason as said above. nothing more!

As Regarding Free EA, i dont want anyone to post their Paid EA or commercial stuff for testing. This will assure all my intentions
There are so many free Ea's around with so many settings and variables... which people are trying... This can help them

Best Regards
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  • Aug 29, 2009 7:47am Aug 29, 2009 7:47am
  •  constin
  • | Joined Jul 2008 | Status: Member | 750 Posts
hello Forexsaint,

If you like you can test my ea from this link:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=151355
The settings i used with great results are there

Thanks,

Constin
 
 
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  • Edited Aug 30, 2009 1:14pm Aug 29, 2009 3:06pm | Edited Aug 30, 2009 1:14pm
  •  AdamN
  • | Joined May 2009 | Status: Trading&amp;Programing as Hobby | 209 Posts
What about the history data,
Where did you get the data from?
Does it have any mismatched charts errors(based on Report)?
How long is the history data span?


Btw, why can't you accept a simple MA based EAs?
like this graph for example was from a simple MA based EA
back tested from June 2009 with 2% risk and 13% risk, but i have 6 mismatched charts errors
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  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting constin
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If you like you can test my ea from this link:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=151355
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Hello Constin
Your Ea has Coding errors... Compile it and see
http://i25.tinypic.com/i6ihjp.jpg

Still the backtested results are as follows (which for me mean nothing)
Also many settings posted by you in other thread were illogical like
Only longs (which didnt trigger even 1 trade on backest),
Balance of only 1000 (even 10k got margin called),
and no steps and stops for settings (if u wanted a optimized backtest)

TimePeriod : 2004:06:16 to 2005:10:11
Pair: EURUSD
TimeFrame :M1
No Optimisation
Balance :10k
Modelled Quality is 25% (EDIT :its the maximum possible in M1 TF)


Further i am also testing a Optimization backtest with StepSize in pips with Step10 and Stop 100 (5 digit broker)..if anything good comes up..will post...but to be frank i dont consider these backestes a dime..as your EA itself is with compilation errors!
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  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting AdamN
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What about the history data,
Where did you get the data from?
Does it have any mismatched charts errors(based on Report)?
How long is the history data span?
Btw, why can't you accept a simple MA based EAs?
like this graph for example was from a simple MA based EA
back tested from June 2009 with 2% risk, but i have 6 mismatched charts errors
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HI adamn

i got access to 2 types of data... ! Since this testing is on mt4 i am using the history center data only!
Data range is of 10years...but I wont be suing any more than 1yr to Test an EA (And may be less for huge scalpers) except if its specially required by a poster.

As regarding MA systems, i feel MA's are good for SL's only... though long term trends can be cathed with them.SO that why said so. any way i have edited and removed that statement.


HERE is a backest of 1yr data, Eu, M15, level trading EA, 90%M.Quality with details and WITH no unmatched Errors (just in case)
Regards

P.S. my save statement function is not working? any one has idea why so?
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  • Aug 30, 2009 5:51am Aug 30, 2009 5:51am
  •  constin
  • | Joined Jul 2008 | Status: Member | 750 Posts
Quoting forexsaint
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Hello Constin
Your Ea has Coding errors... Compile it and see
http://i25.tinypic.com/i6ihjp.jpg

Still the backtested results are as follows (which for me mean nothing)
Also many settings posted by you in other thread were illogical like
Only longs (which didnt trigger even 1 trade on backest),
Balance of only 1000 (even 10k got margin called),
and no steps and stops for settings (if u wanted a optimized backtest)

TimePeriod : 2004:06:16 to 2005:10:11
Pair: EURUSD
TimeFrame :M1
No Optimisation
Balance :10k
Modelled Quality is 20% (most...
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Hey forexsaint I tested it with a 5 pips step on 15 min tf with the exact settings from my thread.

Thanks again,

Constin
 
 
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  • Edited 7:43am Aug 30, 2009 6:39am | Edited 7:43am
  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting constin
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Hey forexsaint I tested it with a 5 pips step on 15 min tf with the exact settings from my thread.
Constin
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You settings in thread are incomplete and illogical as i told the reasons before
Further if you are telling about StepSizeinpips step, the only step settings dont mean anything! you have to give start and stop settings also and IMo they only work for optimisation and not default backtesting!
As Detailed in First post....
Kindly paste settings *.set file and other details as asked, if you feel i should do a backtest again.

Regards
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  • Aug 30, 2009 7:33am Aug 30, 2009 7:33am
  •  Ronald Raygun
  • Joined Jul 2007 | Status: 32 y/o Investor/Trader/Programmer | 5,016 Posts
Quoting forexsaint
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TimePeriod : 2004:06:16 to 2005:10:11
Pair: EURUSD
TimeFrame :M1
No Optimisation
Balance :10k
Modelled Quality is 20% (most probably due to faulty algo in ea, Bcoz other ea's are showing 90%+)
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Can't seem to get higher than 25% for M1 data after build 216.

http://articles.mql4.com/93
http://articles.mql4.com/83
 
 
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  • Aug 30, 2009 7:42am Aug 30, 2009 7:42am
  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting Ronald Raygun
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Can't seem to get higher than 25% for M1 data after build 216.

http://articles.mql4.com/93
http://articles.mql4.com/83
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Thanks for informing that ! Infact it was 25% only..(and not 20)
Will edit the post above !

Regards
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  • Aug 30, 2009 8:30am Aug 30, 2009 8:30am
  •  AdamN
  • | Joined May 2009 | Status: Trading&amp;Programing as Hobby | 209 Posts
Quoting Ronald Raygun
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Can't seem to get higher than 25% for M1 data after build 216.

http://articles.mql4.com/93
http://articles.mql4.com/83
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May be because the lower time frame it is, the less accurate it will be,
afterall the ticks on backtesting are generated randomly instead of using a real ticks data, so scalpers will be getting too many false signals

@ForexSaint: Why did you use time span between 2004 to 2005? it's too old isn't, using 2008~2009 might be better since it's closer with current market
 
 
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  • Aug 30, 2009 8:45am Aug 30, 2009 8:45am
  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting AdamN
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@ForexSaint: Why did you use time span between 2004 to 2005? it's too old isn't, using 2008~2009 might be better since it's closer with current market
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Does Closer to current market data assures More pips...
then i will do it asap!
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  • Aug 30, 2009 10:19am Aug 30, 2009 10:19am
  •  Ronald Raygun
  • Joined Jul 2007 | Status: 32 y/o Investor/Trader/Programmer | 5,016 Posts
Quoting AdamN
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May be because the lower time frame it is, the less accurate it will be,
afterall the ticks on backtesting are generated randomly instead of using a real ticks data, so scalpers will be getting too many false signals

@ForexSaint: Why did you use time span between 2004 to 2005? it's too old isn't, using 2008~2009 might be better since it's closer with current market
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If you read the article a little more closely, you would realize that the history center in metatrader (where the backtester gets its data) does not in fact store tick data. The most granular data it stores is M1 data. Once I discovered that, I moved my backtesting off of Metatrader and into a small program I had written in C# and I just feed that from an SQL database.
 
 
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  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Thought this thread will be of more worth!
Any way!
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  • Sep 24, 2009 12:46pm Sep 24, 2009 12:46pm
  •  traderkid
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Hi Saint:
I would like to submit my trading method for backtesting. But my method is not programmed. May I submit as just text description? Thank you!
 
 
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  • Sep 24, 2009 4:09pm Sep 24, 2009 4:09pm
  •  AdamN
  • | Joined May 2009 | Status: Trading&amp;Programing as Hobby | 209 Posts
Quoting traderkid
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Hi Saint:
I would like to submit my trading method for backtesting. But my method is not programmed. May I submit as just text description? Thank you!
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Is that mean you don't have the EA?
 
 
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  • Sep 24, 2009 4:32pm Sep 24, 2009 4:32pm
  •  traderkid
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Quoting AdamN
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Is that mean you don't have the EA?
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No, I have only the method which I have just written down as a set of rules. There are only a couple of calculations. I trade forex on a browser-based platform on my Mac computer. So, I am unable to run Metatrader.
 
 
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  • Sep 25, 2009 4:52am Sep 25, 2009 4:52am
  •  AdamN
  • | Joined May 2009 | Status: Trading&amp;Programing as Hobby | 209 Posts
Quoting traderkid
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No, I have only the method which I have just written down as a set of rules. There are only a couple of calculations. I trade forex on a browser-based platform on my Mac computer. So, I am unable to run Metatrader.
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Well you can use VMware or other PC emulation software to run Windows and MetaTrader if you have a fast hardware

Anyway, w/o the EA forexsaint won't be able to backtest it
 
 
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  • Edited Sep 26, 2009 2:13am Sep 25, 2009 10:26am | Edited Sep 26, 2009 2:13am
  •  forexsaint
  • Joined Jun 2009 | Status: &lt;-That's how u gonna b, in the END! | 1,509 Posts
Quoting traderkid
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No, I have only the method which I have just written down as a set of rules. There are only a couple of calculations. I trade forex on a browser-based platform on my Mac computer. So, I am unable to run Metatrader.
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Hi traderkid, AdamnN is right..without EA and indi's etc i wont be able to test it.
may be if i had those pogramming skills i may have tried ! but i dont !
May be you can start a Ea Making request Thread with all rules etc and some generous programmer may help you.
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