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  • #781
  • Sep 7, 2009 2:53am Sep 7, 2009 2:53am
Quoting LongBar
Hi ForeverForex,

Please double check your EAPeriod parameter setting....

Longbar
Thanks for the reply, Longbar..

I had manually set the 15 min charts to "3" and the 4hr to "6", I'll try setting them back to "0" and see what happens. I'm getting all kinds of false entries, order entry errors, like first order not going through, some s/l not being set. The crossover of the ATR between 15 and 4hr is really weird. Sure it must be some sort of user error, but thought it was pretty straightforward to set up - you've made it really easy to understand all the inputs.

Thanks,

FF
  • #782
  • Sep 7, 2009 10:54am Sep 7, 2009 10:54am
Editbot, One thing that I've discovered using MT4 with multiple time frames is that regardless of the time frame you are viewing, you will visually 'see' the Profit target and Stop Loss levels for any currently opened position in that same pair. For example, if your H4 timeframe triggered and bought/sold a position and set its respective PT/SL orders, when you move to view the M15 chart you will see those active PT/SL order levels. Also to address your other question... yes, you can set the parameters on your EA to alert you with a pop-up and require you to manually place the orders. Joel
  • #783
  • Sep 7, 2009 11:08am Sep 7, 2009 11:08am
Mr Ed or Longbar, I've been playing with the M15 time frame and see something that I don't quite understand. Currently (9/7 18:45 GMT, 11:45 EST), with EURUSD on M15 time frame, I see what looked like a valid Sell trigger. The messages in the Expert Terminal window however indicate otherwise due to some conditional mixed color. 2009.09.07 11:44:51MisterED_v0.17.0 EURUSD,M15: INFO: CheckTrigger - mixed colour trigger HA bar, waiting for open bar to close (SELL,BUY) 2009.09.07 12:00:02MisterED_v0.17.0 EURUSD,H1: INFO: CheckTrigger - no colour change in HA direction, no trade triggered (BUY,2:BUY) I've seen other messages that indicate the EA goes into some kind of 3 candle lookback procedure to see if a new color change validates a signal Is there something that describes this procedure? Thanks.
  • #784
  • Edited Sep 8, 2009 9:45am Sep 7, 2009 11:40am | Edited Sep 8, 2009 9:45am
Quoting BeerTrader
Editbot,...
I don't think those are the issues, unfortunately - There were accurate trigger candles on the 15 min charts, trade arrows appeared, but s/l and t/p were same as the concurrent ATR for the 4hr candle.

BT, can you explain how to set the EA not to trade for you but to give the alerts?

TIA,

FF
  • #785
  • Sep 7, 2009 12:51pm Sep 7, 2009 12:51pm
Quoting ForeverForex
So stepped back and just trying to run EA on 4hr charts, it opened AUD/JPY trade an hour after candle opened and it wasn't even a trigger candle - help?
Hi ForeverForex,

Indeed the chart looks strange

Would you attach or PM me the experts log file at <path to MT>/experts/logs folder so I could follow up on this?

Cheers
Longbar
  • #786
  • Sep 7, 2009 4:28pm Sep 7, 2009 4:28pm
Editbot/FF,

Just go to the EA properties and on the Common tab.

Check "Enable Alerts"

and you may also want to check both of the Live Trading settings:
"Allow Live Trading" and "Ask Manual Confirmation"
  • #787
  • Sep 7, 2009 4:52pm Sep 7, 2009 4:52pm
Quoting BeerTrader
Mr Ed or Longbar,...
Mister ED described this in the document at the first post - see the 1st point of the standard entry on page 3:
1) wait for the HA signal to change colour completely from blue to red (or vice versa). The whole candle must change so that the body and the wick are the same colour

The EA checks for HA colour change for up to 3 bars. In the simple case the 2nd bar (trigger bar) colour becomes the opposit of the 1st one. In the complicated case the 2nd bar is mixed (body differs from wicks) and only the 3rd bar would change completely the colour opposit to the 1st bar. If the colour change sequence would take longer than 3 bars then the EA will not consider that as a trigger.

Longbar
  • #788
  • Sep 7, 2009 6:29pm Sep 7, 2009 6:29pm
Is there currently (or maybe an option) a way, to set the take profit on the 2nd lot to two times ATR?

Leave Stop as it is.
  • #789
  • Sep 7, 2009 6:37pm Sep 7, 2009 6:37pm
Longbar,

Thank you... that helps my understanding.

One thing that might be a nice variable/feature add for those of us playing in the off-hours and with the M15 time frame would be a Minimum ATR value parameter, perhaps defaulted to a value of 10. This would filter out signals in the very low activity time frames that will most likely get quickly stopped out.

For example: EURUSD M15 at 9/07 22:15 when ATR was 0.0005

As I type, another just triggered:
EURUSD M15 at 9/08 02:30 when ATR is 0.0005
I will manually reset for a wider SL on this one.


Thanks.
  • #790
  • Sep 7, 2009 7:08pm Sep 7, 2009 7:08pm
Do I need to change my settings. Ver 17 not trading on any pairs for me.

here is my set file. / 4hr charts


MagicNumber=20090170
EAPHelp=0:Chart TF, 1:1M, 2:5M, 3:15M, 4:30M, 5:1H, 6:4H, 7, 8:W, 9:M
EAPeriod=6
EMHelp=0:Standard entry only, 1:Retracement only, 2:Both standard and retracement
EntryMethod=2
RetraceTriggerPct=64.00000000
TDHelp=List of days to trade OR 'All' for every day (Mon,Tue,Wed,Thu,Fri,Sat,Sun)
TradeDay=All
TTHelp=Check for trade at bar times in HH:MM format OR 'All' for every bar (HH=00-23, MM=00-59)
TradeTimeMon=All
TradeTimeTue=All
TradeTimeWed=All
TradeTimeThu=All
TradeTimeFri=All
TradeTimeSat=All
TradeTimeSun=All
ExMHelp=0:Fixed TP1 off ATR, 1:Trailing SL on HAS bar, 2:TP1 + trailing HAS bar orders
ExitMethod=0
PLCHelp=Percent of lots for order with TP1 (ExitMethod=2 only)
TP1OrderLotsPct=50
MRDPHelp=Max price difference to open pair of orders
MaxOpenPriceDiff=10
MMMHelp=0:Off, 1:% of Acc/balance
MoneyMgtMethod=5
LHelp=Lot size when MoneyMgt is off (MoneyMgtMethod=0)
Lots1=0.02000000
Lots2=0.02000000
TRAPHelp=Account % to risk when MoneyMgt is on (MoneyMgtMethod=1)
TradeRiskAccPct=2.00000000
AMTPHelp=TP1 = ATR() * ATRMultiplierTP
ATRMultiplierTP=1.25000000
AMSLHelp=SL = ATR() * ATRMultiplierSL
ATRMultiplierSL=1.25000000
SMHelp=0:Off, 1:Backtest only, 2:Always
StatMethod=1
HAS_MA1_Method=2
HAS_MA1_Period=6
HAS_MA2_Method=3
HAS_MA2_Period=2
ATRPeriod=20
TwoStepOrderSubmit=0
Gator - Trader Learning and Earning
  • #791
  • Sep 7, 2009 7:55pm Sep 7, 2009 7:55pm
Has anyone made any money consistently trading this system?
I know it's had losing runs, which all systems have any way.
  • #792
  • Sep 7, 2009 8:28pm Sep 7, 2009 8:28pm
Quoting gator-trader
Do I need to change my settings. Ver 17 not trading on any pairs for me.

here is my set file. / 4hr charts


MagicNumber=20090170
EAPHelp=0:Chart TF, 1:1M, 2:5M, 3:15M, 4:30M, 5:1H, 6:4H, 7, 8:W, 9:M
EAPeriod=6
EMHelp=0:Standard entry only, 1:Retracement only, 2:Both standard and retracement
EntryMethod=2
RetraceTriggerPct=64.00000000
TDHelp=List of days to trade OR 'All' for every day (Mon,Tue,Wed,Thu,Fri,Sat,Sun)
TradeDay=All
TTHelp=Check for trade at bar times in HH:MM format OR 'All' for every bar (HH=00-23, MM=00-59)
TradeTimeMon=All
TradeTimeTue=All
TradeTimeWed=All
TradeTimeThu=All
TradeTimeFri=All
TradeTimeSat=All
TradeTimeSun=All
ExMHelp=0:Fixed...
Hi,

Check your MoneyMgtMethod value. It's set to:
"MoneyMgtMethod=5".
The only two options are "0" to trade fixed lots, or "1" to risk a % of your equity.
"MMMHelp=0:Off, 1:% of Acc/balance."

That's all I see that might cause a problem.

JR
  • #793
  • Sep 7, 2009 11:38pm Sep 7, 2009 11:38pm
Quoting LongBar
Hi ForeverForex,

Indeed the chart looks strange

Would you attach or PM me the experts log file at <path to MT>/experts/logs folder so I could follow up on this?

Cheers
Longbar
As I'm a Junior Member, I can't PM you... So here's the file...actually it ForexFactory won't allow log files...

Here's link to sept. 6th, day with all the errors:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view...d=1364611&da=y

Thank you.
  • #794
  • Sep 8, 2009 12:29am Sep 8, 2009 12:29am
Hi Longbar,

Also getting quite a few errors of orders not going through properly (this is on 15 and 30 min TF's)

"ERROR: ModifyOrder - failed to modify order SL/TP/exp (0.87730000, 0.87630000, 1970.01.01 00:00:00, 0.87640000) (MT Code: 130 Desc: invalid stops) [2009.09.08 08::09:53]"

That one got recovery message later. Another one says "INFO: RecoverEntry - about to recover set TP leg SL/TP for ticket ..."

How does EA try to re-enter missed orders or missed SL/TP, when does it re-attempt?

BTW, not getting these errors on 4hr charts, just these other timeframes.

Thanks!!
  • #795
  • Sep 8, 2009 5:20am Sep 8, 2009 5:20am
Quoting ForeverForex
Hi Longbar,

Also getting quite a few errors of orders not going through properly (this is on 15 and 30 min TF's)

"ERROR: ModifyOrder - failed to modify order SL/TP/exp (0.87730000, 0.87630000, 1970.01.01 00:00:00, 0.87640000) (MT Code: 130 Desc: invalid stops) [2009.09.08 08::09:53]"

That one got recovery message later....
Hi ForeverForex,

There is in inherent problem running the EA on low timeframes. As you (or someone else) recently pointed out the ATR value can be very low on 15M TF, just a few pips. This results in SL/TP being just a few pips away from the entry level. Most of the brokers however would not allow SL & TP to be within a few pips of the current price, there is a minimum distance, say from a few up to 10ish pips the SL & TP must be away from the current price to get the order through....

When these orders fail the EA will blindly try to correct the missing SL/TP values but because those would be again too close to the current price the order submit will fail again and again, etc

As you said this is not a problem on the 4H chart, simply because the ATR (=SL/TP) value is higher and pushing the order SL/TP parameters away from the current price enough.

What I can suggest is to scale up the SL/TP values by using the ATRMultiplierXX parameters on the lower timeframes. Set them to 2 or 3 to double or triple the ATR value to be used for SL & TP.

Longbar
  • #796
  • Sep 8, 2009 10:42am Sep 8, 2009 10:42am
Quoting ForeverForex
As I'm a Junior Member, I can't PM you... So here's the file...actually it ForexFactory won't allow log files...

Here's link to sept. 6th, day with all the errors:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view...d=1364611&da=y

Thank you.
Hi ForeverForex,

Reviewing the log file I see that you have a good number of EA instances running on 15M and 4H charts. There are EA instance pairs which are running on the same currency on different time frames, one on 15M and the other on 4H. I see that the EA instances use the very same magic number across the board which will get the EA's confused running on the same currency - the EA running on 15M timeframe will see the tickets belonging to the 4H TF as its own. This will cause ticket mishandling and errors alright

Also this probably explains your earlier chart where ticket was opened in the middle of an uptrend without HA colour change: likely that ticket was opened by the other EA running on the same pair but on different chart & time frame.

I would suggest to use unique magic number for each EA instance per currency timeframe. Ie set the MagicNumber parameter to a unique value for each EA running on the same currency pair. That would hopefully resolve your issue.

Longbar
  • #797
  • Sep 8, 2009 12:01pm Sep 8, 2009 12:01pm
Quoting LongBar
Hi ForeverForex,

Reviewing the log file I see that you have a good number of EA instances running on 15M and 4H charts. There are EA instance pairs which are running on the same currency on different time frames, one on 15M and the other on 4H. I see that the EA instances use the very same magic number across the board which will get the EA's confused running on the same currency - the EA running on 15M timeframe will see the tickets belonging to the 4H TF as its own. This will cause ticket mishandling and errors alright

Also this probably...
Awesome - thanks, Longbar. Does each chart need unique number (say running 6 pairs all 4hr TF?) or just same pairs on diff. TF's (3 unique numbers for EUR/USD on 4hr, 1hr, 15min TFs?)

Best,

FF
  • #798
  • Sep 8, 2009 12:50pm Sep 8, 2009 12:50pm
Longbar,
I have loaded the EA (latest ver.) but am not getting any trades.I've loaded it on 4hr.TF .
Any suggestions?

Thank you.

Vinesh
  • #799
  • Sep 8, 2009 1:59pm Sep 8, 2009 1:59pm
Longbar,

Below is a journal excerpt showing the opening of order 6908461 at 2009.09.07 23:01:09, a USDCHF sell, followed a couple minutes later by a failed [Trade timeout] message for a similar order but with no price values.

I'm on FXCM and the 2 step is enabled to allow the follow-up SL/TP order modifications.

There was no recorded attempt to write a SL for 6908461 but it appears it tried to open a duplicate order, albeit one without any price values, instead of modifying the open order with a SL.

The Trade and Account History entries do not show any other failed attempts to add the SL, except for exit 0 or 2 orders that opened and closed in the same minute, fairly common for H1 and shorter tf's during low ranging market times.

The trade (3% exit1=TSL) was opened on the trade tab at 2009.09.08 06:01 local MDT, 7.24 lots at 1.05960 and is still running. It never attempted to enter a SL value and the trade is still open. (Happily, it's up over $10,500+ but of course it could have been a $10,500 loss.)

Is this a broker/MT4 internal error or is the EA missing something here?

2009.09.08 00:00:00 '2088184702': order #6910697 sell 4.15 USDCAD at 1.07669 was modified -> sl: 1.07828 tp: 0.00000
2009.09.08 00:00:00 '2088184702': request in process
2009.09.08 00:00:00 '2088184702': request was accepted by server
2009.09.07 23:59:59 '2088184702': modify order #6910697 sell 4.15 USDCAD at 1.07669 sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000 -> sl: 1.07828 tp: 0.00000
2009.09.07 23:59:59 '2088184702': order was opened : #6910697 sell 4.15 USDCAD at 1.07669 sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000
2009.09.07 23:59:59 '2088184702': request in process
2009.09.07 23:59:59 '2088184702': request was accepted by server
2009.09.07 23:59:59 '2088184702': order sell market 4.15 USDCAD sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000
2009.09.07 23:34:05 '2088184702': login
2009.09.07 23:33:03 '2088184702': login
2009.09.07 23:32:11 '2088184702': connect failed [No connection]
2009.09.07 23:04:28 '2088184702': order sell 7.24 USDCHF opening at 0.00000 sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000 failed [Trade timeout]
2009.09.07 23:01:09 '2088184702': order was opened : #6908461 sell 7.24 USDCHF at 1.05960 sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000
2009.09.07 23:01:09 '2088184702': request in process
2009.09.07 23:01:09 '2088184702': request was accepted by server
2009.09.07 23:01:09 '2088184702': order sell market 7.24 USDCHF sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000
2009.09.07 23:00:10 Expert stdlib USDCHF,H1: loaded successfully

JR
  • #800
  • Sep 8, 2009 4:16pm Sep 8, 2009 4:16pm
Quoting ForeverForex
Awesome - thanks, Longbar. Does each chart need unique number (say running 6 pairs all 4hr TF?) or just same pairs on diff. TF's (3 unique numbers for EUR/USD on 4hr, 1hr, 15min TFs?)

Best,

FF
This is what you should consider: "just same pairs on diff. TF's (3 unique numbers for EUR/USD on 4hr, 1hr, 15min TFs?)"
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