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That’s an interesting point.
The risk-to-reward seems a bit unbalanced (1:4), so consistency becomes very important.
Even if win rate is high, one bad trade can wipe out multiple wins.
I think it can work, but only with strict risk management and a very high accuracy.

Good initiative for sharing resources.
From my experience, instead of relying too much on “profitable EAs”, it’s more important to understand the logic behind them (entries, risk management, and market conditions). Most systems can perform well in certain conditions but fail when volatility changes.
For learning, I’ve found that focusing on price action + market structure + session behavior is more consistent than chasing indicators or bots.
Also, when testing EAs, I think forward testing on demo/live small accounts with proper risk control is more reliable than backtests alone.
Looking forward to seeing what others share here.

I’ve tested a number of EAs over time, and I currently use a scalping bot that I developed myself as part of my ongoing trading system.
It’s based on simple market conditions and quick entries, mainly focused on short-term momentum moves. Like most scalping systems, performance is highly dependent on spread, volatility, and execution quality.
In live conditions, I still find that risk management and market timing are more important than the EA itself. I’m continuing to refine it as market behavior changes.

I’ve seen similar claims before. In my experience, no system guarantees consistent wins in all market conditions.
Even strong strategies go through drawdowns depending on volatility and market structure.
I think the key is not expecting “always win,” but focusing on risk management, execution, and understanding when a system is out of its optimal conditions.

That’s usually not normal behavior for a properly designed EA.
In most cases, an EA should be able to resume after reconnection as long as it correctly manages its internal state (open trades, magic numbers, and initialization on restart).
What you’re experiencing often happens when the EA doesn’t properly handle terminal restarts or loses synchronization with existing orders after a disconnect.
A more robust design would include re-initialization logic so it can continue without needing to be removed and reattached manually.

This is usually more related to the broker/server environment than the EA itself.
MT4 connections can drop temporarily due to server maintenance, internet routing issues, or broker-side disconnects, and most platforms should automatically reconnect when the connection is restored.
However, some brokers and older MT4 setups handle reconnection poorly, especially if the terminal restarts or the login session resets. In those cases, you may need to reinitialize the terminal or reattach EAs.
Regarding IBFX, I would strongly suggest confirming with their support whether their live environment is still stable for automated trading, because platform stability is just as important as micro-lot availability when choosing a broker.

I’ve seen mixed feedback about AquaFunded, so I think it really depends on the trader and how strictly the rules are followed.
From what I’ve observed in prop firms in general, most issues people face usually come from consistency rules, drawdown limits, or misunderstanding the account conditions rather than trading itself.
If you’re considering an instant funded account, I would suggest starting small first (if possible), testing withdrawals, and making sure you fully understand their risk rules before scaling up.
Also worth checking recent payout proofs and support response times before committing a large amount.

This actually looks solid, especially the command center style + behavioral journaling part — that’s where most traders are lacking, not just entries and exits.

A lot of tools like TradeZella and Edgewonk focus heavily on stats, but not enough on decision-making patterns and psychology, which is where consistency really comes from.

The live sync with MT5/cTrader + 2-sec updates is a big plus too — most journaling tools feel delayed or disconnected from actual execution.

One thing I’d suggest testing during beta:
How well it helps traders improve behavior, not just track it
Whether the analytics actually highlight repeat mistakes automatically
Simplicity — because if it’s too complex, most traders won’t stick with it

I trade actively and I’ve seen a lot of traders ignore journaling until they start blowing accounts — so if your system makes journaling easy and actionable, you’re solving a real problem.

I might check it out and give feedback

This is actually a smart idea — Forex Factory is full of noise, and filtering it can save a lot of time.

The concept reminds me of how traders already use tools like Myfxbook to verify performance instead of trusting random opinions. Applying that same “credibility filter” mindset directly to forum discussions makes sense.

That said, one thing to be careful with:

High post count ≠ profitable trader
Old account ≠ consistent edge
Likes ≠ accuracy (sometimes it’s just popularity)

Some of the best traders are low-key and don’t post often, while some high-activity users just recycle information.

The manual block + customizable filters is where this really becomes powerful though — because every trader can define what “credible” means to them.

Overall, this could be very useful if people use it as a noise reduction tool, not a truth detector.

Solid breakdown — you’ve pretty much mapped the landscape accurately. Unfortunately, the short answer is: you’re not missing some hidden “cheap” route. CME MBO data is intentionally expensive, and most paths converge to roughly the same total cost once you include licensing.
A few points from experience:
1) Lower-cost providers (realistically)
There isn’t a meaningful discount channel for true L3/MBO. If a provider is significantly cheaper, one of these is usually true:

1. It’s not true MBO (often aggregated or reconstructed)
2. It’s delayed or throttled
3. It’s bundled under terms that restrict algorithmic/non-display usage

Databento is actually on the more transparent/modern end of pricing. Others (CQG, Rithmic, TT, Bloomberg B-PIPE, Refinitiv) often end up more expensive once everything is included.
2) Broker inclusion (L2/L3)
Retail brokers almost never include MBO. Even most futures FCMs only provide:

1. L1 (top of book)
2. L2 (MBP depth)

Rithmic and CQG do have MBO feeds, but:

1. You still pay CME non-display + exchange fees
2. Access is often tied to professional platforms or funded accounts
3. Not necessarily cheaper once normalized

So this route is more about convenience than cost reduction.
3) Non-professional classification
This is where expectations usually clash with reality.
For CME:

1. “Non-professional” helps mainly with display fees (L1/L2 on screens)
2. The moment you’re doing systematic/automated/non-display usage, you’re generally pushed into:
   1. Non-display classification
   2. ILA requirements

Even if you’re trading your own account, algorithmic use typically disqualifies you from the cheaper tier. Some have tried to structure around this, but it’s a compliance gray area and exchanges are strict if audited.
4) CME direct (DataMine / MDP)
Going direct rarely helps unless:

1. You already have infrastructure in place
2. You’re scaling across multiple datasets

You’d still face:

1. ILA
2. Non-display fees
3. Infrastructure overhead (which can exceed vendor costs unless you’re optimized)

For a single-instrument strategy, vendors are usually more cost-efficient despite the sticker shock.
5) Alternative providers
Quick reality check:

1. Bloomberg B-PIPE → premium institutional pricing (multiples of your current estimate)
2. Refinitiv/LSEG → similar story
3. CQG / Rithmic → viable technically, not materially cheaper for MBO
4. TT → enterprise-level cost structure

So again, not really a cost escape.
More important question (strategy fit)
Given your stated goal (confirmation at S/R, seconds of latency OK), I’d challenge whether full MBO is actually necessary.
You might get 70–80% of the signal from:

1. High-quality L2 (MBP) depth
2. Order book imbalance metrics
3. Volume profile + recent trade flow
4. Synthetic liquidity metrics (stacking/pulling proxies)

Why this matters:

1. MBO shines in queue position, order flow sequencing, and microstructure edge
2. If you’re not exploiting queue dynamics or sub-second behavior, the marginal value drops fast

A lot of traders pay for MBO and end up using it like “fancier L2,” which rarely justifies $2k/month.
Practical alternatives
If you want to stay cost-efficient:

1. Test your idea on recorded MBO datasets first (Databento or CME historical)
2. Benchmark vs L2-derived signals
3. Only upgrade to live MBO if the edge is clearly additive

You might find:

1. The confirmation signal you want is already visible in aggregated depth
2. Or the edge isn’t stable enough to justify the fixed cost

Bottom line

1. Your $1.8k–$2k/month estimate is realistic and hard to beat legitimately
2. There’s no widely-used “retail loophole” for CME MBO
3. The real leverage is in validating whether you actually need L3 for your use case

If you’re open to it, I’d be curious what specific behaviors you’re trying to detect at S/R (e.g., absorption, spoofing, iceberg detection). That usually determines whether MBO is essential or overkill.

Let’s keep this constructive.
If there are concerns about scams or off-platform activity, it’s better to present clear evidence so moderators can review it. Otherwise, personal attacks don’t help anyone and just derail the thread.
Most of us are here to focus on trading ideas—would be good to get back to that.

Interesting concept — low-cost copy trading always attracts attention, but reliability and execution quality are what really matter long-term.
If you’re open to it, I’ve been working on a more controlled approach to account management and risk distribution (not just copying trades blindly across accounts). Happy to connect and exchange ideas — always good to compare different setups.

Your point on pair selection is valid, but framing it as “almost any setup will work” risks oversimplifying what’s actually driving the edge.
In practice, what you’re exploiting isn’t the FVG itself—it’s the alignment between market conditions and a specific behavioral tendency (in this case, mean reversion into prior inefficiencies). The FVG just provides a clean, objective reference point.
Pair selection matters because different instruments exhibit different microstructure characteristics—liquidity depth, spread stability, session-driven volatility, and how consistently they respect intraday imbalances. But those characteristics aren’t static. A pair that’s “clean” this week can become erratic the next, especially with shifting correlations and macro flows.
A more robust way to frame this is:

1. You’re selecting pairs that are currently exhibiting orderly price delivery
2. You’re targeting a specific inefficiency (yesterday’s imbalance)
3. And you’re executing within a defined session context where that behavior is most likely to repeat

That’s a conditional edge—not a universal one.
If anything, the simplicity of FVGs is useful because it removes subjectivity, but the real work is in continuously validating whether the pairs you’re trading are still respecting that behavior.
Curious—are you dynamically rotating your basket based on recent volatility/structure metrics, or sticking to a fixed set and filtering intraday?