Coding with AI

Hello to all the dear members of the Forex Factory community
Today, I want to talk about an exciting and innovative topic: the use of AI in coding for MetaTrader and other trading programs.

Why AI?
AI can help us code topics much faster. It has been a huge help for me, allowing me to produce the necessary code more quickly, and I have also learned some good things from it.

I know there are many negative opinions about AI in coding, and I used to share a similar view, but my perspective has changed. First of all, I make no claims about my coding abilities; I am still learning. Within my experience, I can understand the logic of the code by looking at it, although those who are more professional can do this much better than I can.

I mention all this to highlight that individuals who usually post AI-generated code here often lack substantial knowledge about coding, and their codes are typically full of errors and flaws. Those who have experience in coding can quickly tell at a glance that the code is unusable. This is why people are often reluctant to help those who post AI-generated code.

Another reason is that AI combines codes and presents a mix of MQL5 and MQL4 codes to you.

Now, the main question is whether we can receive correct, error-free, and functional code from AI or not? My answer is yes; we can obtain good code.

To receive better code, AI needs training. Does it combine codes? Yes… but you need to emphasize what you want. You must specify that you do not want it to use MQL4 codes in MQL5; you need to clarify that it should only work with a specific language.

You must control the output and guide it to the right point.

To prove that good output can be achieved, I recorded a video of creating a very simple expert advisor in two parts. I uploaded the first part and will soon upload the second part as well. What you see in the video is a relatively simple example, and I have created something much more complete with additional features than what you see in the video for strategy testing and backtesting.

My intention has been to show how to guide AI to produce clean, problem-free, and functional code.

Of course, this is my experience working with AI, and I would be happy to hear your opinions and methods shared here. If you have had a similar experience or managed to code something with AI, please share how you did it so that we can all benefit from it.

My final thought is this: imagine someone who does not know how to use a phone right now… well, that doesn’t sound very good. In the near future, someone who doesn’t know how to use AI will be in the same situation as someone who doesn’t know how to use a mobile phone.

Coding MQL Expert Advisor Template with AI | Part 01 - Main Structure of the Expert

Coding MQL Expert Advisor Template with AI | Part 02 - Debug Code and Check Expert Logic

I agree, AI can speed up coding once you know how to guide it, and like smartphones, mastering AI will soon be an essential skill!

AI can help in many areas and make tasks easier.
Lately, I haven't even had the patience to install a program myself; I just ask it to give me a PowerShell script to install the program.
Without any knowledge of Python, it has created a series of scripts for me that perform tasks that were really time-consuming.
Many limitations and things that seemed impossible or difficult for me, or my lack of understanding of MetaTrader 5 code to write those scripts, now make me hopeful that they are not impossible.
I gave several coding problems to different AIs with the same text to see which one could solve the issue, and this has helped me learn how to write better prompts.
I am still learning.

Can we try our Daily Candle Ea now

Nice topic and definitely the AI will start entering to our coding.

I will recommend you to use Claude.ai. He has better performance for coding.

I used AI to change my MQL4 to MQL5, it was easy and done in less than a week !

I'm sorry, my friend.
First, I need to fix a few indicators, and once that's done, I have built 5 to 6 methods based on an idea. I've developed some of their indicators that I will later turn into a robot and test. I also have several other ideas that I need to turn into robots and test. All of this will take weeks, and I only come to help others during my free time or when I'm really tired of my own projects and need a break. I often assist with topics that don't require too much time so that I don't fall behind on my own plans.
You should watch the two videos I've created and learn the methods and techniques I use to get accurate results from artificial intelligence (AI). The rest is easy. You just need to chat in your native language and provide some information and warnings, like in the video I made, as input for the AI to generate the code you want.
Once you start learning this method, you won't need anyone else to code for you. The AI will do the coding for you.
Artificial intelligence will make topics like free indicator and expert coding lose their appeal.
I've taught how to create MetaTrader 5 experts, and if I get the chance, I'll provide more tutorials so you can see how easy it is to create even more advanced experts just by talking.

I haven't tested the AI you're talking about, but over the past few days, I've checked out several completely free, open-source AI options that can be installed on a user's system and run offline. The good thing about these options is that your privacy and information remain secure. I even tried to make some modifications and train them, but unfortunately, I haven't succeeded yet. It's a very challenging and labor-intensive task, so I've put it aside for now.
My main goal is to test these AIs and present them with certain challenges that have been difficult for me or where I've seen other AIs struggle. I want to see what the results are like.

Soon, we will reach a point where everyone will have their own personal AI. I watched a video where the person mentioned they created their own AI to control devices at home and prevent their information from being accessible to others in the cloud.

If you look at this image, you'll also notice that MetaTrader itself is expected to undergo more changes.


I would love for others to come forward and share their experiences as well!

The most difficult part is the way you are asking questions and the actions to IA.

It's important to work on multiple parts. If you ask all your need in one question, he will do the job but you will have multiple errors.

Basically, you need to work on like this :

> What are the inputs needed
> Open + close positions
> TP + SL

If this logic is working the way you like, you can go deep on each topic. You only change to the next topic if it's working correctly as you expect.

I changed mine from MQL4 to MQL5 on this way.
I created also a dashboard that collects the metrics from my account with API

But it's a meticulous work that needs to be done with the AI. If you are not precise with your question (what is inside your brain) it can go sideways

Yes, you can write many things in a single text and ask the AI to process them. However, the issue is that AI has limitations in its output, it cannot provide a complete code sometimes and analyze it. It's better to break down your requests into multiple sections.

Then, let's proceed step by step until we reach the final code.

One important note about offline or open-source AI models is that they have different models, some of which can handle more complex problems, but often require significant resources for computations. Some high-precision models, similar to those used in mining Ethereum, would demand a lot of resources and sometimes it's not even practical to use them.

The best approach is to optimize one model and only use it for a single programming language, and teach it with information related to that language. This process can be quite challenging and time-consuming.

Thank you for posting this topic, I was going to ask if AI can code for me.

How about this.... Here's a "Close Trade" EA that works fine, but it doesn't separate pairs/assets, it just closes trades in the order they were opened.

It is an "ex4" file -- Can it be converted to source code (I own it). or.. Can AI make modifications to existing indicators ?? Is that easier than starting from scratch for AI coding??

Here's my one-click close EA I wanted to modify

You only need to provide text or code to AI. There are limitations on receiving files from AI, typically PDF, txt, etc. are accepted.
What you want is quite simple for AI and can easily generate it from scratch.
An indicator or expert does not make a difference, if you have access to the code, you can quickly apply changes to it.
You just need to explain the logic of the tool and its operation to AI, along with what you want.

For example, my friend had an issue with an indicator that you can see here.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post15080149
I gave the code to AI and asked it to modify it according to their request. Then, I had an idea that I thought, "Why not ask AI to add more features to the input of the indicator that will allow users to easily manage the output message they receive?"
The entire process took about 15 minutes.
this is final file
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post15084414
Try to ask AI to convert the indicator that our friend uploaded to the one I sent. This will be a good exercise in testing the capabilities of AI and its understanding of the changes you request.

Thanks again... I did all that and it works !!

We can not send ex4 files for decoding.... but it can create a new indicator.

If I start slowly and get the basics working, then it (I used claude dot AI) will build on the previous attempt.

Me>> I wanted buttons to click on in an EA. The buttons always came out in the same, tiny, wrong place.

I replied, "The button parameters don't work".

Instant response>>" You are correct.... ... I'll fix it"'

Works perfect.

And I'll share my first AI experience here.... my first time coding as well. I don't code.

Asked AI to make a 'close trade button' EA for MT4 .

After several versions, starting very basic and building as I go... I asked Clade AI: (see final ** "AI question" ** below if interested)

**** It created the code in under a minute. *****
I had a .mq4 in experts, and loaded on a chart, ready to go each time..... Copy the AI code.... Bring up MetaEditor.... right click "Select All" > right click "delete" > right click "paste"
.... I hit file> save, and Compile.

It's done and already running on the chart. (takes me 10 seconds)..... "ME" !!

**** AI question **********
"Provide code for MetaTrader 4 expert advisor in MT4. Two buttons. One button at x axis = 3 , y axis = 90 , Height = 45 , Width = 110. The second button starting at x axis = 115. These items are user variable. One button will close short trades, the second button will close long trades at one trade per click. Text is user defined, and the right side of each box should show the number of open trades with no parenthesis. Button colors change from pink (short), light sky blue (long) for no trade, to Red (short), Blue (long) for open trades."

**** AI coded response ********
AI two close buttons (dot) mq4 and ex4 [attached]

And further.... I know my button size and colors I want - doesn't even need to be 'user defined'.
{current variables} 2 text variables , 4 colors , and x axis / y axis for each button. (No variable button height and width this time around)

Feel free to check out my awesome and most excellent coding skills !! [cool dude emoji]
Interested to hear how to better code it properly.

I saw the code, it's good, and I can't think of anything to suggest that would improve it. I'm glad you were able to create the tool you wanted.
Coding doesn't matter; the most important issue is freedom. AI gives you freedom of action, and this is much more important to me. Whether we like it or not, the future is changing, and many programmers' jobs are being threatened by AI, which is why some have a negative outlook.
Having a negative perspective doesn't change anything, and I don't think we have the ability to change that.
Now that we can't change it and negativity doesn't help us, why not take advantage of this opportunity? The more you use this tool, the more freedom you will have.
Keep up your work and think about what you would like to have or change to make your job easier.

Здравей Прайс, ето няколко възможни идеи за сравнение, написани по този повод, и техните обяснения, доколкото мога .
EA - за затваряне на всички поръчки
Затварянето на всички поръчки на MT4 при определени условия е мисия невъзможна, а покриването на резултата, при който сте взели това решение, е още по-малко. Например: имате всичко за изпълнение на вашите поръчки - зададени печалби, стопове, отложени поръчки, но виждате, че наближавате момента на пускане на новини, в които се очаква волатилност с неизвестна за вас посока или просто сте на малък плюс и искате да затворите всички поръчки или само поръчките от дадена двойка и след това да изтриете чакащите поръчки, за да не ги забравите и да създадете проблеми. За тази цел експертите, изброени по-долу, могат да се използват, както следва:
= За да затворите всички поръчки в момента на вашето желание - използвайте - Затворете всички отворени позиции, включително:
= за да затворите всички позиции след достигане на зададената обща печалба - CloseAllAtProfitLevel. Този експерт включва:
Настройки с няколко близки опции.
1.) Можете да зададете сума и след като цената достигне тази сума, тя ще затвори всички сделки.
2.) Можете да натиснете CloseAll и това ще затвори всичко.
3.) Можете да натиснете CloseProfitableTradesOnly и това ще затвори само сделки, които са над сумата, която сте задали. Може да бъде 0, $5, $25 или каквото и да е друго.
4.) Можете да затворите всички чакащи поръчки и да оставите други сделки отворени.
= и или да затворите всички поръчки само по дадена двойка - Затворете само една двойка
и накрая след затваряне на активните поръчки е задължително и
= да затворите всички чакащи поръчки - Затворете всички чакащи поръчки и играта свършва.
Важно е да се отбележи, че роботите работят и с отрицателни числа, за което се използва тирето на клавиатурата. Ще кажете какво да затворите на минус. Това са случаи, в които сте реализирали печалба за времето на работа и останалите операции са отрицателни, но общият ви баланс за периода е положителен. Това е.
УСПЕХ

Здравейте FxArt.Trader,
страхотна тема и съжалявам за отклонението с роботите за затваряне на операции, но просто исках да помогна на колегата. Аз също не кодирам и никога не съм работил с AI и много ме интересува подхода и начина на подаване или сортиране на информацията, за да няма недоразумения. Освен това кой от възможните AI, предлагани в мрежата, е най-добрият. Като цяло как да работя с AI, защото искам да автоматизирам системата, с която работя от години, но никога не съм срещал кодер, който да ми помогне. Работих и с фрийлансър, опитаха се да ме измамят, спечелих открит дебат и след това ми върнаха парите, но не това е важното, а времето, което загубих и нервите от контакт с некачествени хора. Затова виждам тук добра възможност за реализация и ви приветствам с тази тема. благодаря

Hello
I don't exactly remember which online AIs I worked with, but I know that I used these two the most and currently use them more than the others:
https://www.perplexity.ai/
https://chatgpt.com
Of course, ChatGPT was much better and smarter, and its responses were much closer to what I wanted, especially when the issues were significantly complex. Otherwise, for simple problems, both are excellent, and I used Perplexity.ai a lot for creating Python scripts. My journey started with Perplexity.ai; in fact, the first expert I built was created there. I developed a lot of the content and structure of the expert on that platform and then completed it in ChatGPT.

If you're interested, you can watch the videos I've posted on this topic. In those videos, I tried to show how to work with AI and the challenges that arise during the process. They are in English, but I spent a lot of time creating English subtitles. Although the subtitles were generated with AI, I reviewed each sentence multiple times and checked the timing of the subtitles as much as I could so that people could have automatic translations through YouTube subtitles in their own language.

i can code now. I modified a couple other indicators... so easy.
I went rounds with this AI Close Button EA. I've got it modified now just how I want it.

If you wanted to "Learn how to Code", I would suggest having AI teach you, it codes quick and proper.

But "Learning how to Code" might be wasted time, because AI is gonna smoke everyone at it. May as well learn Morse Code {Obsolete}.

I have my "AI Close Button EA" working well. Although, in MT4, it doesn't update the button immediately upon a new trade fill.... next tick.

Meh.

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#property copyright "Trade Management EA"
#property strict
#property indicator_chart_window
// Global variables for trades
int totalLongTrades = 0;
int totalShortTrades = 0;
// Function to get market identifier
string GetMarketIdentifier(string symbol) {
if(symbol == "NAS100" || symbol == "NASUSD") return "NAS";
if(symbol == "US30" || symbol == "U30USD") return "DOW";
if(symbol == "GER30" || symbol == "D30EUR") return "DAX";
return symbol;
}
// Function to count open trades
void CountOpenTrades() {
totalLongTrades = 0;
totalShortTrades = 0;

for(int i = 0; i < OrdersTotal(); i++) {
if(OrderSelect(i, SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_TRADES)) {
if(OrderSymbol() == Symbol()) {
if(OrderType() == OP_BUY) totalLongTrades++;
if(OrderType() == OP_SELL) totalShortTrades++;
}
}
}
}
// Function to close all short trades
void CloseAllShortTrades() {
for(int i = OrdersTotal() - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
if(OrderSelect(i, SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_TRADES)) {
if(OrderSymbol() == Symbol() && OrderType() == OP_SELL) {
bool closed = OrderClose(OrderTicket(), OrderLots(), Ask, 3, Red);
if(closed) break; // Close one trade per click
}
}
}
}
// Function to close all long trades
void CloseAllLongTrades() {
for(int i = OrdersTotal() - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
if(OrderSelect(i, SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_TRADES)) {
if(OrderSymbol() == Symbol() && OrderType() == OP_BUY) {
bool closed = OrderClose(OrderTicket(), OrderLots(), Bid, 3, Blue);
if(closed) break; // Close one trade per click
}
}
}
}
// Function to create buttons
void CreateTradeButtons() {
string marketId = GetMarketIdentifier(Symbol());

// Button for closing short trades (left button)
ObjectCreate(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJ_BUTTON, 0, 0, 0);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_XDISTANCE, 3);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_YDISTANCE, 90);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_XSIZE, 95);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_YSIZE, 40);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_FONTSIZE, 11); // Increased font size

// Button for closing long trades (right button)
ObjectCreate(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJ_BUTTON, 0, 0, 0);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_XDISTANCE, 100);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_YDISTANCE, 90);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_XSIZE, 95);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_YSIZE, 40);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_FONTSIZE, 11); // Increased font size
}
// Function to update button appearances
void UpdateButtonAppearances() {
string marketId = GetMarketIdentifier(Symbol());

// Short trades button (left)
if(totalShortTrades > 0) {
ObjectSetString(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_TEXT, marketId + " " + totalShortTrades);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_COLOR, White);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_BGCOLOR, Red);
} else {
ObjectSetString(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_TEXT, marketId);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_COLOR, Black);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseShort", OBJPROP_BGCOLOR, Pink);
}

// Long trades button (right)
if(totalLongTrades > 0) {
ObjectSetString(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_TEXT, marketId + " " + totalLongTrades);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_COLOR, White);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_BGCOLOR, Blue);
} else {
ObjectSetString(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_TEXT, marketId);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_COLOR, Black);
ObjectSetInteger(0, "btnCloseLong", OBJPROP_BGCOLOR, LightBlue);
}
}
// Initialization function
int OnInit() {
CreateTradeButtons();
return(INIT_SUCCEEDED);
}
// Deinitialization function
void OnDeinit(const int reason) {
ObjectDelete(0, "btnCloseShort");
ObjectDelete(0, "btnCloseLong");
}
// Main chart event handler
void OnChartEvent(const int id, const long &lparam, const double &dparam, const string &sparam) {
if(id == CHARTEVENT_OBJECT_CLICK) {
if(sparam == "btnCloseShort") {
CloseAllShortTrades();
}
if(sparam == "btnCloseLong") {
CloseAllLongTrades();
}
}

// Always update trade count and button appearances
CountOpenTrades();
UpdateButtonAppearances();
}
// Main function (runs on each tick)
void OnTick() {
CountOpenTrades();
UpdateButtonAppearances();
}