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  • Dec 2, 2022 2:39pm Dec 2, 2022 2:39pm
  •  d5400
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Quoting Waveskierrob
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{quote} pure luck at it's finest ...doesn't always go that way but happy when it does ....
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I very rarely get lucky. Always have to work for anything. I think I'm developing my style with this. I use TP for both sides. Usually start with directional trade, it naturally tanks right away, I start averaging down, then hedging. I use TP for both sides, but for losing side I use larger TP (2X) than for winning side. Seems to work. Obviously avoid news.
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TRADE 59....DJIA ....SHORT @ 34300 no sl tp +5
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added SHORT @ 34340 no sl no tp
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added SHORT @34410 no sl no tp
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  •  davelansing
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Decided to start posting screenshots of my open trades... the good, the bad, and the really ugly... and will do this on a daily basis if it's ok with Rob....as you can see I'm currently in a lopsided EURSD sell basket, but I did this for a purpose, lol, sort of, I needed to prove to myself that with patience, I can successfully trade out of a runaway trend without negatively impacting my equity. Because I trade with Oanda, I can trade micro-lots and this ensures that my trade size ($0.03 per pip) is really small relative to my equity....at one point I did have a hedge trade on with a GBPUSD buy basket, but closed the GBPUSD basket when the USD gained strength following NFP (I did make quite a bit of $$). Anyways, here we go...

what is my next step(s)? I don't know...yet. Most likely will start opening buy trades with AUDUSD, or the more volatile GBPUSD, while continue to average out the EURUSD sell basket...

Btw, I'm in the US, so placing same-pair hedge trades is out (aside from going to an off-shore broker). Rather, I trade using correlated pairs.. look up the posts from former FF member "yazzie" who traded similarly as Rob, and basically took $30k to $160k in a year (real account) offsetting GBPJPY trades with EURJPY....

Also, I don't trade using charts; although I will show a chart on the screenshot just to have a reference to where the current sell basket is, but normally the chart is blacked out..
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  •  Waveskierrob
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Quoting davelansing
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Decided to start posting screenshots of my open trades... the good, the bad, and the really ugly... and will do this on a daily basis if it's ok with Rob....as you can see I'm currently in a lopsided EURSD sell basket, but I did this for a purpose, lol, sort of, I needed to prove to myself that with patience, I can successfully trade out of a runaway trend without negatively impacting my equity. Because I trade with Oanda, I can trade micro-lots and this ensures that my trade size ($0.03 per pip) is really small relative to my equity....at one point...
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Please by all means post away, reading your post, it occurs to me you have the right attitude, something to think about
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  •  SilentFather
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Quoting davelansing
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Decided to start posting screenshots of my open trades... the good, the bad, and the really ugly... and will do this on a daily basis if it's ok with Rob....as you can see I'm currently in a lopsided EURSD sell basket, but I did this for a purpose, lol, sort of, I needed to prove to myself that with patience, I can successfully trade out of a runaway trend without negatively impacting my equity. Because I trade with Oanda, I can trade micro-lots and this ensures that my trade size ($0.03 per pip) is really small relative to my equity....at one point...
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I tried search for yazzie and found nothing. Anything I did wrong?
Sentiment is moving the market. Just do the opposite...
 
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  •  davelansing
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 435 Posts
Quoting SilentFather
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{quote} I tried search for yazzie and found nothing. Anything I did wrong?
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Here ya go...

https://www.forexfactory.com/yazzie

A "couple" of key posts, lol, from 2013-14:

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...60#post7170360
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...59#post7182259
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...43#post7183343
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...66#post7205066
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...91#post7509191
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...61#post7510361
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...77#post7640177
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...80#post7698780
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...19#post9601019
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...58#post7610258
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...39#post7458039
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...71#post7413471
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...37#post7319237
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...62#post7275162
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...90#post7259490
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  • Dec 4, 2022 12:49pm Dec 4, 2022 12:49pm
  •  SilentFather
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Quoting davelansing
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{quote} Here ya go... https://www.forexfactory.com/yazzie A couple of key posts: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...91#post7509191 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...61#post7510361 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...77#post7640177 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...80#post7698780
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Sorry my friend. Google has found it. Search in forum was useless. Weird. I'll read it. Thanks
Sentiment is moving the market. Just do the opposite...
 
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  •  davelansing
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Quoting Waveskierrob
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{quote} Please by all means post away, reading your post, it occurs to me you have the right attitude, something to think about
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Thanks Rob.

Since I have a daytime job, my screenshots will generally be from the evening, after NY close, EST, but hopefully I'll remember to take a few pics during the day and post those as well. Also, I'll try as best I can to describe any trades opened/closed.
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TRADE 59....DJIA ....SHORT @ 34300 no sl tp +5
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SHORT tp hit +5
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added SHORT @34410 no sl no tp
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Closed SHORT 34310 +100
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{quote} added SHORT @ 34340 no sl no tp
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Closed SHORT @ 34310 +30
Soon To Be Temporarily Suspended Again
 
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TRADE 59 +5, +100, +30 = +135....running total = +856
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  • Edited 12:20pm Dec 5, 2022 12:07pm | Edited 12:20pm
  •  davelansing
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Screenshot update of EURUSD sell basket as of 12:00pm, EST. Price has to drop to 1.0444 to close basket at BE...

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  • Dec 5, 2022 12:27pm Dec 5, 2022 12:27pm
  •  d5400
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Today was the easiest 2.2% gain on my account, because I avoided work at all cost. It is easier to cream the market than to milk it.
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Haha...
On the last weekend I came across this thread and really liked what I have been reading through all the pages.
So couldn't wait for Frankfurt and London start this morning.

I just opened randomly on AU and EG... Scalped a couple of tp5`s in my demo pocket pretty much around noon I started to place some trades to average the negative ones which were still in play.

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I never achieved this amount of pips during a single morning, had so much fun stayingin the market and ended up with nice green 187 pips
Hope I can continue this way
 
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  •  d5400
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Quoting Mr.Moe
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Haha... On the last weekend I came across this thread and really liked what I have been reading through all the pages. So couldn't wait for Frankfurt and London start this morning. I just opened randomly on AU and EG... Scalped a couple of tp5`s in my demo pocket pretty much around noon I started to place some trades to average the negative ones which were still in play. {image} {image} I never achieved this amount of pips during a single morning, had so much fun stayingin the market and ended up with nice green 187 pips ...
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Yes, random entries, averaging down. Don't listen to anyone. This is the way.
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  •  davelansing
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 435 Posts
EURUSD Sell basket update#2... as of 3:30pm EST. Closed 4 profitable sell trades (+20, +43, +70, +96)....Btw, the red boxes with the "arrows" are open sell trades, and boxes with the "clock" are pending sell trades.. each trade is offset by 25 pips. BE is now set at 1.0394.

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  •  Fagin
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Quoting davelansing
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{quote} Here ya go... https://www.forexfactory.com/yazzie A "couple" of key posts, lol, from 2013-14: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...60#post7170360 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...59#post7182259 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...43#post7183343 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...66#post7205066 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...91#post7509191 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...61#post7510361 https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...77#post7640177...
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Some pearls of wisdom on that thread. … thanks for posting it.
 
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  • Dec 5, 2022 4:06pm Dec 5, 2022 4:06pm
  •  Waveskierrob
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Best trader ever to have lived 4.0 | 4,783 Posts
Quoting Mr.Moe
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Haha... On the last weekend I came across this thread and really liked what I have been reading through all the pages. So couldn't wait for Frankfurt and London start this morning. I just opened randomly on AU and EG... Scalped a couple of tp5`s in my demo pocket pretty much around noon I started to place some trades to average the negative ones which were still in play. {image} {image} I never achieved this amount of pips during a single morning, had so much fun stayingin the market and ended up with nice green 187 pips ...
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Great post but be aware she does bite...
Soon To Be Temporarily Suspended Again
 
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