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  • China concealed extent of virus outbreak: U.S. intelligence

    CHINA CONCEALED EXTENT OF VIRUS OUTBREAK: U.S. INTELLIGENCE

    — FxMacro (@fxmacro) April 1, 2020
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  • CHINA UNDER-REPORTED VIRUS CASES, DEATHS: U.S. INTELLIGENCE

    — *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) April 1, 2020
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  • Classified report to White House: “China concealed extent of Coronavirus outbreak...under-reporting both total cases & deaths it’s suffered from the disease”

    Pompeo: saving lives “depends on ability to have confidence & information about what has actually transpired”@business

    — Danielle DiMartino Booth (@DiMartinoBooth) April 1, 2020
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  • Apr 1, 2020 11:21am Apr 1, 2020 11:21am
  •  Sahir12
  • | Joined Feb 2018 | Status: Just Focus Who is Lord | 247 Comments
now china in game...U.S omg how
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  • Apr 1, 2020 11:25am Apr 1, 2020 11:25am
  •  Momofrmnyc
  • | Joined May 2019 | Status: Rolling in the Pippppssss! | 612 Comments
Water is wet. Tell us something we didn't know.
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  • | Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Member | 59 Comments
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  •  Ss45
  • | Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Member | 15 Comments
Wow, these guys are just looking for reasons to console themself for their failure. How about Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand..............
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  • Apr 1, 2020 11:36am Apr 1, 2020 11:36am
  •  whichBanker
  • | Joined Dec 2013 | Status: Member | 30 Comments
every man and his dog knows this, why us intelligence needed to be involved to tell us is beyond me, job creation maybe?
what's that saying? there's lies, damned lies, statistics, and chinese statistics.
seriously does anyone truly believe there're only 3 thousand something ccp virus death in china? times that by 100 may be close to the real figure
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  •  Brentrading
  • | Joined Dec 2007 | Status: Member | 108 Comments
is there even one government on earth that tells the truth ???
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  •  diky
  • | Joined Jan 2020 | Status: Member | 64 Comments
Sell
Audusd
Audjpy
Nzdusd
Nzdjpy

Bearish strong
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  • Apr 1, 2020 11:48am Apr 1, 2020 11:48am
  •  ilhaner
  • | Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Member | 162 Comments
Either way, governments should have known something fishy was going on when CCP locked down 100 million people. Thats a very bold move for CCP who treat people like bugs regardless of nationality. The lock down was a tell-tale sign of the extent of the disaster.
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  •  harcos
  • | Joined Mar 2020 | Status: Member | 293 Comments
Quoting whichBanker
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every man and his dog knows this, why us intelligence needed to be involved to tell us is beyond me, job creation maybe? what's that saying? there's lies, damned lies, statistics, and chinese statistics. seriously does anyone truly believe there're only 3 thousand something ccp virus death in china? times that by 100 may be close to the real figure
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The report is clickbait anyway, C'mon how is it "Classified Report to Whitehouse one minute" and then on Forex Factory news the next. I would take China's Lies over the US Intelligence report, anyhow as this is just so the history books can paint a rosier picture of the inadequate response to the outbreak.
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  •  Ss45
  • | Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Member | 15 Comments
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{quote} The report is clickbait anyway, C'mon how is it "Classified Report to Whitehouse one minute" and then on Forex Factory news the next. I would take China's Lies over the US Intelligence report, anyhow as this is just so the history books can paint a rosier picture of the inadequate response to the outbreak.
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Yep!......When the government says lock down, it is a lock down in China. It could be the reason why their number is low but here our neighbor in South, how many states have that in place. Florida still hasn't imposed that. And the president is comparing his daily briefing to tv rating.
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  •  swd
  • Joined Apr 2018 | Status: Trader | 149 Comments
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Sell Audusd Audjpy Nzdusd Nzdjpy Bearish strong
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Great way to donk off your money bro, AUDUSD spiked UP 140 pips. LOL
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  •  RossEdwards
  • Joined Jun 2019 | Status: Member | 2,143 Comments
What a total load of excrement. OF course they did and they admitted it.. and fired the apperatchecks in Hubai that fiddled the figures.. But Hey.. Blame the Chinese... rather than acknowledge that the Administration was asleep at the wheel... and heres the records to show just how asleep...

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For the record Chinas unprecedented lockdown in Wuhan started at 2 am on 23 January 2020.
And extending to other Chinese cities in Hubei, affecting a total of about 57 million people... in the following days.
On 2 February 2020, Wenzhou, Zhejiang, implemented a seven-day lockdown in which only one person per household was allowed to exit once each two days, and all uncontrolled highway exits closed

Did US Intelligence pick that up? Was the President told? Or did they think the Chinese were locking down 60 million people and a big chunk of their economy for a laugh?

Just a Thought#
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  •  swd
  • Joined Apr 2018 | Status: Trader | 149 Comments
I particularly liked the point mentioned on FEB 28. The inflection is perfect!
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  • Apr 1, 2020 1:41pm Apr 1, 2020 1:41pm
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If following things are done, I think one can get rid of nCOVID19 if shown positive.
(1) Drink Hot Water 4 times a day.
(2) Inhale tolerable water vapour 4 times a day
(3) Drink Hot Tea 4 times a day
(4) Take hot milk 4 times a day (those who like Milk)

If Doctor does not prescribe any medication but person is isolation (or Qurrantine), anybody can maintain the above procedures. If Doctor prescribe the medicine, s/he can continue the same along with the above procedures.

His/her test report will likely come negative on nCov19 after 5 days.
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  •  foto
  • Joined Jan 2007 | Status: Member | 1,868 Comments
What is meaningful is Government does not react based upon opinions here at FF.
This will be raising additional friction and complicating international Trade relations.
In Europe what were they up to, hey baby it's Schengen time. Schengen worship assured, it is Racist to call Disease a disease and impose restrictions.

add: For those trading emerging markets continues to be a great directional trade in USD/ZAR Long. Broke above last major high in early 2016 and solid push above 18.00 level currently.
Last week S.A. government brought out military to impose nationwide lockdown.
Covid-19 is hitting them real hard economically.
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  •  asking
  • | Joined Nov 2016 | Status: Member | 60 Comments
Trump "I'm charging secret service just a housekeeping when they stay at my hotel"
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Quoting RossEdwards
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What a total load of excrement. OF course they did and they admitted it.. and fired the apperatchecks in Hubai that fiddled the figures.. But Hey.. Blame the Chinese... rather than acknowledge that the Administration was asleep at the wheel... and heres the records to show just how asleep... {image} For the record Chinas unprecedented lockdown in Wuhan started at 2 am on 23 January 2020. And extending to other Chinese cities in Hubei, affecting a total of about 57 million people... in the following days. On 2 February 2020, Wenzhou,...
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To try to exonerate one guilty party by pointing out the errors of another one is really a deceitful intellectual practice.

Communist China should take the blame for their Chernobyl. Namely:
- silencing the initial doctor reports by what they do best, coercion
- wasting three weeks while the mid level aparatchiks at city and provincial level were all running scared like mice trying to figure out who should go and tell the bad news to the big scary tiger in Beijing
- reluctantly they notfied WHO at the end of December for a virus. At that time, Taiwan sounded an alarm that Mainland doctors had shared with their Taiwanese coleagues that there were sick doctors in Wuhan, hence there must have been human-to-human transmission. Communist China made sure WHO supressed that report.
- after WHO send mission to Wuhan to observe and report, the WHO staff were put under intense pressure to tone down their warnings and the danger from the outbreak.
- after Wuhan was locked down, Chinese continued to fly all over the world, there was a suspension of outbound tourism, but only for organized tours, not individuals. Countries that tried to impose early bans on Chinese travel, particularly USA, but others also, were subject to pressure by Mainland China. (As a side note, now Mainland China has imposed a total travel ban without any concern for what other may think about it, or "racism").

So, there. That's the shortlist. Nothing of this has anything to do with Trump or USA or EU.
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  •  Trivion
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China concealed extent of virus outbreak
Thanks, Captain Obvious!
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  •  RossEdwards
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Trump "I'm charging secret service just a housekeeping when they stay at my hotel"
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"My Hotel"?????????????
I thought Trump had disassociated himself from ALL commercial interests as required by the constitution?
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  •  UnBearybull
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{quote} The report is clickbait anyway, C'mon how is it "Classified Report to Whitehouse one minute" and then on Forex Factory news the next. I would take China's Lies over the US Intelligence report, anyhow as this is just so the history books can paint a rosier picture of the inadequate response to the outbreak.
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Its a deliberate LEAK.
Do you really believe that China has only stopped at 80,000+ cases ???
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  •  Vancarbon
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In the midst of a pandemic it surprises me ( some ) people still have time to make political propaganda out of this scenario .

Go fig !

How about solidarity .
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Sell Audusd Audjpy Nzdusd Nzdjpy Bearish strong
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Already,
Correlation note;
Audjpy is same as nzdjpy
Audusd is same as nzdusd
Sell one in each group!

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{quote} Great way to donk off your money bro, AUDUSD spiked UP 140 pips. LOL
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That was a shake out, of weak shorts and smart-pants-tight-stop traders. If you wanna trade the land under currencies (AUD, NZD), give ample stop distance, these two have been quite spikey of recent. If not, just avoid AUD and NZD.
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The Chinese government is arrogant. The US government is arrogant. And we are caught between them.
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  •  Yao
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: Member | 664 Comments
US repeatedly refused WHO's request for investigation of Coronavirus. Again in the most recent G7 meeting, Mike Pompeo wanted to name coronavirus 'Chinese virus' before anything else. When asked about WHO's investigation again, he replied now it was not the time to find out who is to be blamed. When request to name coronavirus as 'Chinese virus' was denied by other G7 countries, secretary of the state simply refused to issue a joint statement to fight the coronavirus. Wasn't his objective to have all G7 countries join together to fight the virus?
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shocked that the borg would lie
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  •  harcos
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https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

When the US surpasses all the other countries what do they do, they pull their results from the Johns Hopkins dashboard and leak a document saying China lied. HMMMM
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{quote} Great way to donk off your money bro, AUDUSD spiked UP 140 pips. LOL
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What happned? What do you think about the spike causes?
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  •  Yao
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President Trump: Coronavirus is Hoax.
After a few days: We only had 15 cases, it will become zero soon.
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the rest we all know.
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shocked that the borg would lie
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Magnificent comment.
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First knowledge of the virus in US was on 1-1. On 1-14 the WHO repeated the Chinese lies re human transmission while Taiwan was sounding alarm. It was not until 1-23 that China lockdowned Wuhan. Trump banned China travel on 1-31. Trump was called racist etc for that by Democrats. Now they say he was too slow.

Put those dates in the context of China having its first case on 11-17 and the US on 1-19. And the 4 years of anti Trump media and the repeated impeachment attempts which are starting up again over this.
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Shutting it down flights had little to no effect when you talk compounding and already seeded. Also, no restriction on Americans who could still travel. It was the right decision and wish the UK did it. You can't argue with temp tests at least if that's what's being done in hotspots already. Or proper screening of all travellers.
Same as masks, they work.

Trump's good polling is mind-boggling...
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First knowledge of the virus in US was on 1-1. On 1-14 the WHO repeated the Chinese lies re human transmission while Taiwan was sounding alarm. It was not until 1-23 that China lockdowned Wuhan. Trump banned China travel on 1-31. Trump was called racist etc for that by Democrats. Now they say he was too slow. Put those dates in the context of China having its first case on 11-17 and the US on 1-19. And the 4 years of anti Trump media and the repeated impeachment attempts which are starting up again over this.
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