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  • ECJ – Article 50 Press Release

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    At the request of various MSPs, MPs and MEPs, a Scottish court, the Court of Session, Inner House, First Division (UK), asks the Court of Justice whether a Member State which has notified the European Council of its intention to withdraw from the EU in accordance with Article 50 TEU may unilaterally revoke that notification and, if so, subject to what conditions. As the UK Parliament has to give its final approval, both if a withdrawal agreement is reached and in the absence of that agreement, various members of that parliament consider that if the notice of the intention to withdraw were revocable, this would open ... (full story)

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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:23am Dec 4, 2018 3:23am
Ole Ole Bravo
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:25am Dec 4, 2018 3:25am
Court Aide is who .....

UK PM May (her name is also May) should lose Article 50 Case - Is this a judgement or some trash (should lose indeed)

Just sparking the spikes
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:34am Dec 4, 2018 3:34am
what does it mean?
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:36am Dec 4, 2018 3:36am
Absolute rubbish
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:39am Dec 4, 2018 3:39am
Quoting joancb
what does it mean?
It means that the losers can begin moaning
Start with 1000$. Increase by 3% every day. After one year 2 213 314$
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:41am Dec 4, 2018 3:41am
it means they scrap brexit and dont leave the european union i think
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:41am Dec 4, 2018 3:41am
What is the rules of Article 50?
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:43am Dec 4, 2018 3:43am
Some more information
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1204/1014981-brexit-article-50/
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  • Dec 4, 2018 3:59am Dec 4, 2018 3:59am
May pull the 50 article and may not.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:11am Dec 4, 2018 4:11am
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Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} It means that the losers can begin moaning
Losers? Moaning? Dont be so hard on the UK... you referring to to the whole UK as losers?
Sure the government has admitted that there is NO brexit option that would leave the UK richer or more secure than its current status as an EU member... but it was democratic, and if the people want to be poorer, its their right.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:19am Dec 4, 2018 4:19am
Quoting XuMar
What is the rules of Article 50?
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegDat...)577971_EN.pdf
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:19am Dec 4, 2018 4:19am
Right now shit got so messy, no matter what the UK does, they will look like a joke to the whole world.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:37am Dec 4, 2018 4:37am
Quoting OnlineAddict
Right now shit got so messy, no matter what the UK does, they will look like a joke to the whole world.
hey buddie........ how to harvest money on this GAME (brexit on the movie)
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:40am Dec 4, 2018 4:40am
Quoting swing77
{quote} hey buddie........ how to harvest money on this GAME (brexit on the movie)
Buy low sell high
Training.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:44am Dec 4, 2018 4:44am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} Buy low sell high
okay, lets began playing GBP
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:51am Dec 4, 2018 4:51am
time for close all buy positions, and finding resist level
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  • Dec 4, 2018 4:51am Dec 4, 2018 4:51am
Fake
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:01am Dec 4, 2018 5:01am
Nice demo account
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:03am Dec 4, 2018 5:03am
Quoting DayTrader30
Nice demo account
lol
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:07am Dec 4, 2018 5:07am
Quoting DayTrader30
Nice demo account
Id say 99% of posters here dont know their arse from their elbow. And yes....that includes me
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:08am Dec 4, 2018 5:08am
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yaw.....i dont think about his account, but she was got jackpot
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:15am Dec 4, 2018 5:15am
It means that a Brexit deal which is worse than being a member state can be cancelled. What we have is a Brexit deal which is worse than being a member state, according to the Brexiters. What kind of deal they wanted, which the EU would agree with, we are still waiting to hear.
Gone to a better place
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:30am Dec 4, 2018 5:30am
Quoting smikester
It means that a Brexit deal which is worse than being a member state can be cancelled. What we have is a Brexit deal which is worse than being a member state, according to the Brexiters. What kind of deal they wanted, which the EU would agree with, we are still waiting to hear.
I can tell you what they want. They want to sabotage and see a nearly collapsing economy which will result in many big buildings and factories losing almost half of their value. When this is done then these smart arsholes will withdraw some of their capital from abroad and buy/get all those buildings and factories almost for free.

They have learned their lessons from the corrupted leaders of the old socialistic/communistic block
Start with 1000$. Increase by 3% every day. After one year 2 213 314$
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  • Dec 4, 2018 5:52am Dec 4, 2018 5:52am
Quoting XuMar
What is the rules of Article 50?
The rule is if UK wants to revoke Article 50 (i.e. u-turn on Brexit), all 27 members of EU27 has to vote unanimously to agree to the revocation. If just one member vote it down, the revocation will be void. In other word, UK cannot choose unilaterally whether it want to abandon Brexit or not after it invoke Article 50. All the other 27 members have to agree.

Now this legal advice state that the above should not apply because if one member refuse to endorse, it will frustrate the country choosing to exit to change its mind to attempt to return back. This is not inline with International Treaty principle of allowing unilateral withdrawal from the Treaty and therefore should allow unilateral revocation of that withdrawal notice.

Before this advice (not ruling), the possibility of no-deal Brexit is high. Now with this advice, the possibility of no Brexit has overtaken the possibility of no-deal Brexit to the point that no-deal Brexit is almost a non-event because in the worst case, even at the last min on the last day of March 2019, UK can still choose to revoke Article 50 and avoid no-deal Brexit. (No-deal Brexit is something that the majority of the house members has rejected including the opposition parties given the devastating effect it has on peoples' job and businesses.). As long as the possibility of no-deal Brexit scenario don't increase or in fact starting to decrease, you should be seeing no-deal Brexit risk premium priced out of GBP.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 6:16am Dec 4, 2018 6:16am
What ? ...Whatta chaos!
https://www.facebook.com/bbccomedy/v...1469084628918/
Member
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  • Dec 4, 2018 6:35am Dec 4, 2018 6:35am
Quoting swing77
time for close all buy positions, and finding resist level {image}
I was waiting for that.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 7:53am Dec 4, 2018 7:53am
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The takeaway is that subject to a final ECJ judgement in line with Advocate Generals advice today..
1. The option of No-Brexit and
2. The ability of Parlaiment to avoid an "accidental" N0-Deal brexit ..
Both got easier.
GBP may rally slightly on this, since markets appear to
favour a No-Exit and are threatened by an accidental crashout.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 8:03am Dec 4, 2018 8:03am
I am tired of those rubbish. British people dont you think that EU is more than a mafia? Better to end it with a terror than a terror never end.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 9:05am Dec 4, 2018 9:05am
Quoting Hareii
... In other word, UK cannot choose unilaterally whether it want to abandon Brexit or not after it invoke Article 50. All the other 27 members have to agree.

Now this legal advice state that the above should not apply because if one member refuse to endorse, it will frustrate the country choosing to exit to change its mind to attempt to return...
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no-deal Brexit is almost a non-event because in the worst case, even at the last min on the last day of March 2019,...
Hahaha.
I wanna what you are smoking.

So all Europe will wait until March 2019 to see if few crazy will vote each whatever way???? Riiiiiiiiight

No, the UK cannot just say Sorry and WITHDRAW like this!!!

You, pal, can string along big words.... Not worth a damn

Whatever a high flying blabber says is a 90% lie.

And no judge in his right mind will say "unilaterally withdraw blabla".
We just need to wait and see

Example (for silly): you go to McDonald's,pay $10, eat like a pig.....then go to the cashier, say "i wanna unilaterally withdraw $10 from you and the lunch i had is in the toilet. We good? ".
How possible that sounds??

LOL.
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 9:09am Dec 4, 2018 9:09am
....but on the other hand, knowing that a Cancelled Brexit is in most people's interest....the judges can say this just to facilitate things.

Why spend ages fighting for deals when cancel Brexit is most desirable by the powers in UK...and maybe, i don't know, in Brussels....??

It's a political mess
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 9:18am Dec 4, 2018 9:18am
no deal I'm afraid a deal cannot be done

Quoting smikester
It means that a Brexit deal which is worse than being a member state can be cancelled. What we have is a Brexit deal which is worse than being a member state, according to the Brexiters. What kind of deal they wanted, which the EU would agree with, we are still waiting to hear.
#Say something verifiable by subsequent events
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  • Dec 4, 2018 9:20am Dec 4, 2018 9:20am
you cannot overturn the referendum ,I don't know what you guys are thinking, its not Italy
Only a election could do it haha
#Say something verifiable by subsequent events
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  • Dec 4, 2018 9:57am Dec 4, 2018 9:57am
Sounds like the best option. The "deal" has some pretty bad components.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 10:36am Dec 4, 2018 10:36am
Quoting Grantx
{quote} Id say 99% of posters here dont know their arse from their elbow. And yes....that includes me
Best post yet.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 10:41am Dec 4, 2018 10:41am
Quoting Bones
you cannot overturn the referendum ,I don't know what you guys are thinking, its not Italy Only a election could do it haha
It was not a binding referendum and flawed to begin with.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/05/17/the-brexit-referendum-question-was-flawed-in-its-design/
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  • Dec 4, 2018 10:53am Dec 4, 2018 10:53am
yea right ,
it was
crystal clear leave or remain
since I'm the only one with any sense here let me tell you in the UK you can not overturn a referendum
with the biggest turnout ever , another election could do it with a mandate to do so I guess and that's why EU don't want a deal


Quoting TraderTero
{quote} It was not a binding referendum and flawed to begin with. http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/05/17/the-brexit-referendum-question-was-flawed-in-its-design/
#Say something verifiable by subsequent events
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  • Dec 4, 2018 10:57am Dec 4, 2018 10:57am
the other thing May has done is blur her own lines so it isn't what it started
she delivered free movement and thinks that's good enough ,like that's the only reason
#Say something verifiable by subsequent events
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  • Dec 4, 2018 12:55pm Dec 4, 2018 12:55pm
An excellent review here

http://blogs.sussex.ac.uk/uktpo/2017/03/17/can-a-notification-under-article-50-teu-be-unilaterally-withdrawn/

Short answer no.

Why???
Coz article 50(3) and (5) make it clear that EXTENSION must be voted unanimously by EU states.

A withdrawal of withdrawal is.....what.....indefinite extension.
Simple!!!
LOL
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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  • Dec 4, 2018 2:47pm Dec 4, 2018 2:47pm
May’s Brexit Deal Is a Betrayal of Britain
If the U.K. parliament supports her plan, it will never be forgiven.
By Mervyn King

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-is-a-betrayal

Quoting Hareii
{quote} The rule is if UK wants to revoke Article 50 (i.e. u-turn on Brexit), all 27 members of EU27 has to vote unanimously to agree to the revocation. If just one member vote it down, the revocation will be void. In other word, UK cannot choose unilaterally whether it want to abandon Brexit or not after it invoke Article 50. All the other 27 members have to agree. Now this legal advice state that the above should not apply because if one member refuse to endorse, it will frustrate the country choosing to exit to change its mind to attempt to return...
#Say something verifiable by subsequent events
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