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    British Prime Minister Theresa May said on Sunday toppling her would risk delaying Brexit and she would not let talk of a leadership challenge distract her from a critical week of negotiations with Brussels. Since unveiling a draft divorce deal with the European Union on Wednesday, May’s premiership has been thrust into crisis by the resignation of several ministers, including her Brexit minister, and some of her own members of parliament are seeking to oust her. More than two years after the United Kingdom voted to leave the EU, it is still unclear how, on what terms or even if it will leave as planned on March ... (full story)

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Some high-ranking English and Irish officials are generally against this agreement.
Quoting Guest
Some high-ranking English and Irish officials are generally against this agreement.
This is what it is about:

Some high-ranking English and Irish officials: I am totally against this agreement .... if I have the choice.

Question is do the member has a better choice than voting for the agreement. Ideal is ideal, you still have to be realistic. EU officials will be saying the same thing: I am totally against this agreement ... if I have the choice as May have put it clearly that this agreement is something that both sides are not totally comfortable with but have decided to compromise to agree.
Blimey, more like the Ice queen in Narnia every day, when someone says somethings difficult it usually means difficult for them, politico's these days have rarely worked anywhere other than in politics, hence getting a coke out of a vending machine would be difficult for most of them.... if it's so difficult Mrs May,move aside, I'm sure there are 1,000's more suited to the task than you, whilst you're there perhaps take the simpleton half wit Carney with you, he doesn't getting difficult either, but heh, he comes from pot smoking central where eating appears a challenge !!
Demanding what you want is the easy part...getting the other side to agree is where the difficulty lies.

The likes of Johnson, Mogg, Farage et all have no idea..they keep spewing out the same garbage...the EU has one simple answer...

F@ck you

The EU has an economy that is 6X bigger than the UK. They are and have always been in the stronger position. Need to wake up and smell the coffee.

And before anyone responds with "we should just leave without a deal"..if there is no deal...then the Irish border goes up anyway...which has been the main issue all throughout the negotiations.

If any of you guys out there have the answer to resolve the Irish border.. you need to email May. I guarantee, you will be on the new years list for a knighthood.
Quoting digit1288
If any of you guys out there have the answer to resolve the Irish border.. you need to email May. I guarantee, you will be on the new years list for a knighthood.
I doubt the Irish border issue is the actual issue. EU just want to keep this (Irish border issue) bargaining card with them during the post March 2019 trade negotiation. They know UK don't want to trigger the backstop and therefore pressured to conclude a quick free trade deal and therefore the importance of this bargaining card (which in their terms they called it the insurance card). You can see this is their red line which is non-negotiable. Unless UK has something that they really want, else they are not giving their trump card away. They are in a position of strength .. that is the reality of the negotiation and UK has to wake up to the reality. No deal is a worst outcome for UK than EU, so the current deal is still the best that you can squeeze out of them.

As to the fear of members about UK being locked in to the EU till year 2099 if there is no agreement on both parties post March 2019, this is theoretically possible but practically not likely. EU don't want to keep an unwilling UK at the risk of a bad relationship and if worst come to worst, military conflict. There is not much benefit to keep UK within EU post March 2019 and from cost benefit analysis, there is no reason for EU to play the hardball to keep UK bind to the bloc any longer than necessary.

All nations operate on a cost benefit analysis basis, UK just need to make sure the cost of EU keeping UK bind to the bloc increase to the point where it outweigh the benefit, then they will reconsider. That is why I say there is no sovereign rights issue involved in this matter as long as UK military forces is strong enough to get EU to paid a heavy price for threatening the sovereignty of UK. But this is the worst case possible which EU would not want to see since EU and UK are eternal neighbors, like it or not.
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meanwhile, gbpjpy is about to miraculously recover and make a run for the north pole. Brexit my ....
well you could have a war ,
or not sign the ridiculous thing in the first place
unheard of situ never been done

Delay is very good because there's a chance the next election could overturn,also they still collect their money
whilst we have no say whatsoever
sounds good let's sign up

like you would in life
suppose there's always the people signing up to timeshare scams every day
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
Quoting Bones
... also they still collect their money whilst we have no say whatsoever sounds good let's sign up ...
When you say 'they' collect their money, I assume you refer to EU. You probably don't know that under the current May's draft agreement, EU has also to pay UK for EU's project in UK reciprocally. It is not a one-way UK pay and EU collect.

With due respect, and I will be honest. Now I can fully appreciate why the EU people are so pissed off with the UK side and the negotiation is so difficult and the past 2 years has been such a mess. At this point of time, I came to the conviction that EU will be more willing than UK to call a no deal if forced. That is the real risk.
PM May started off with a Big vision and speech. A Global Britain. Now that has morphed into Global Britain, but first I have to ask Brussels for permission to blow my nose.
Be interesting to find out what she thinks are the Real interests of Britain, oh but let May ask Merkel first or Juncker if it is alright.
At some point Britain you are going to need decide if you are a Country any longer. Can not help but think May is gone, it just has not been made Public as of yet.
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wow she really looks pissed off
yea course I know net is out ,
second biggest contributor that's why they should have listened to Cameron in the first place
we want to leave by the referendum majority,
have another referendum we still want to leave
close ties to our allies and friends =yes
taken over by EU and its new army =no

You cannot actually leave this thing apparently
they're happy to extend to 2022 lol

Quoting Hareii
{quote} When you say 'they' collect their money, I assume you refer to EU. You probably don't know that under the current May's draft agreement, EU has also to pay UK for EU's project in UK reciprocally. It is not a one-way UK pay and EU collect. With due respect, and I will be honest. Now I can fully appreciate why the EU people are so pissed off with the UK side and the negotiation is so difficult and the past 2 years has been such a mess. At this point of time, I came to the conviction that EU will be more willing than UK to call a no deal if...
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
not to mention all the other countries rise of the right
unfortunately those counties the exchange which should be lower will also never win
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
I tried my best to help Italy by ordering a new alfa
I have done my best
after tariffs ill buy a land rover
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
Populists, protectionists, nationalists exults and giggles now.
Relax, you won, don't cry anymore, you'll get your candy now!
But hard filter or even isolation and protectionism is bad for any nation on long term.
It's not because some of us say so, it's because history says so.
Member
Quoting Bones
I tried my best to help Italy by ordering a new alfa I have done my best after tariffs ill buy a land rover
Great choice. Hope you are able to afford a Giulia Quadrifoglio
The greatest enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan.
No, I can't but I love that car

Quoting steve10%
{quote} Great choice. Hope you are able to afford a Giulia Quadrifoglio
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
if cable breaks down maybe haha
#doyourownanalysisordietryin
Quoting NewtonsCash
Blimey, more like the Ice queen in Narnia every day, when someone says somethings difficult it usually means difficult for them, politico's these days have rarely worked anywhere other than in politics, hence getting a coke out of a vending machine would be difficult for most of them.... if it's so difficult Mrs May,move aside, I'm sure there are 1,000's more suited to the task than you, whilst you're there perhaps take the simpleton half wit Carney with you, he doesn't getting difficult either, but heh, he comes from pot smoking central where eating...
if I remember correctly, she is in this position first place BECAUSE no one else wanted to do it. And now one after the other 'Brexiteers' running away - not because the deal is so bad (that might be or not) but because it becomes real. they would have to DO something better. It's so much easier nagging on everything others are doing
Quoting Bones
No, I can't but I love that car {quote}
Bit out of my price range. I will have to keep my 10 y/o GT a bit longer
The greatest enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan.
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  • Posted: Nov 18, 2018 1:01pm
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