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  • Trump vows 25 million jobs, most of any president

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    President Donald Trump laid out a clear vision for the United States in his inaugural address: "Buy American and hire American." He calls it the "America First" doctrine. It's not just a slogan. The new president promises his plans will create 25 million new jobs in the next decade. It would be the most jobs created under any U.S. president ever, topping even the nearly 23 million jobs added under President Bill Clinton during the boom years of the 1990s. "We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth, and we will bring back our dreams," Trump said. That line generated the ... (full story)

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  • Jan 20, 2017 4:43pm Jan 20, 2017 4:43pm
  •  JakubSzalaFX
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I will create 50M, who gives more?
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 4:55pm Jan 20, 2017 4:55pm
  •  thomaspaine
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Quoting JakubSzalaFX
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I will create 50M, who gives more?
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Every month NFP will explode, 500K at least every time
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 4:56pm Jan 20, 2017 4:56pm
  •  ikouki
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Hahaha
Trading is not for everyone.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 4:58pm Jan 20, 2017 4:58pm
  •  JakubSzalaFX
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Every month NFP will explode, 500K at least every time
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At least
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 5:13pm Jan 20, 2017 5:13pm
  •  coldvinc
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He wants on average about 520K jobs per month... Hahahaha... Sorry... Hahahaha
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 5:15pm Jan 20, 2017 5:15pm
  •  Not-KPMG
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Quoting JakubSzalaFX
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Sure
1000 million

Trump is a good joker.
And bunch of other politicians are too....
The best joke he did was to trick many millions to vote for him.
Respect!!!

Now, seriously : who expects a war to start somewhere, because of Trump, in 3 months.??
I bet a dollar.
Then he can put millions "great Americans" in labour camps just like in old days. 25 million serfs.

And promises achieved
Oops.
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 5:28pm Jan 20, 2017 5:28pm
  •  thomaspaine
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Quoting coldvinc
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He wants on average about 520K jobs per month... Hahahaha... Sorry... Hahahaha
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‘I will be the greatest jobs president that God has ever created’: Trump


God speaking through him
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 5:29pm Jan 20, 2017 5:29pm
  •  JakubSzalaFX
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Quoting coldvinc
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He wants on average about 520K jobs per month... Hahahaha... Sorry... Hahahaha
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This pace would crush US economy in few months.

He is surreal.

But he wants to create during a decade, average 208k
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 5:48pm Jan 20, 2017 5:48pm
  •  fxtradespot
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I hope the rumors of election hacks are true, because if not that means Americans really vote for this clown. This is serious!!! This is really disturbing! Global stupidity is taking over, soon what's next is mountains of trash and then WALL-E
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 6:42pm Jan 20, 2017 6:42pm
  •  Ziko9o8
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and he is going to deliver.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 6:44pm Jan 20, 2017 6:44pm
  •  fxx360
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Donald Trump deserves a chance, as any other president would have. The American people spoke and elected him for a reason. Even if you don't agree with the reasoning, he is still our next president. The gridlock and divide that has swept our nation will only be perpetuated if Donald Trump isn't given a chance from the get-go. Americans will hold him accountable through their voices and our checks and balances, we will be just fine. We need to find the silver lining, keep an open mind. Nothing is as bad as it seems. And maybe, if we give him a chance, he may just surprise us.
Trump has been president-elect for months now and the sky isn't falling. Americans still got out of bed, went to work, and will hug their families by the day's end. That will continue, even with Donald Trump as president.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 6:50pm Jan 20, 2017 6:50pm
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I hope the rumors of election hacks are true, because if not that means Americans really vote for this clown. This is serious!!! This is really disturbing! Global stupidity is taking over, soon what's next is mountains of trash and then WALL-E
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terrible statement
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 7:18pm Jan 20, 2017 7:18pm
  •  mae4206
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I hope the rumors of election hacks are true, because if not that means Americans really vote for this clown. This is serious!!! This is really disturbing! Global stupidity is taking over, soon what's next is mountains of trash and then WALL-E
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Stupid person will not become billionaire or the president of the united states. Calling someone stupid is like calling yourself stupid. So much you need to learn kid
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 7:21pm Jan 20, 2017 7:21pm
  •  hello2u
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Bwahahaha. I needed a good laugh. Thanks chump.
 
 
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  •  albchr
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Donald Trump deserves a chance, as any other president would have. The American people spoke and elected him for a reason. Even if you don't agree with the reasoning, he is still our next president. The gridlock and divide that has swept our nation will only be perpetuated if Donald Trump isn't given a chance from the get-go. Americans will hold him accountable through their voices and our checks and balances, we will be just fine. We need to find the silver lining, keep an open mind. Nothing is as bad as it seems. And maybe, if we give him a chance,...
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+10 on the whole post sir. Especially about the gridlock and divide. Overcoming these is my biggest hope of this election. Let's hope both the career Democrats and Republicans will allow it.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 8:49pm Jan 20, 2017 8:49pm
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I see hillybilly was dressed in white was this a wedding for bill
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 8:52pm Jan 20, 2017 8:52pm
  •  NathanAhern
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Donald Trump deserves a chance, as any other president would have. The American people spoke and elected him for a reason. Even if you don't agree with the reasoning, he is still our next president. The gridlock and divide that has swept our nation will only be perpetuated if Donald Trump isn't given a chance from the get-go. Americans will hold him accountable through their voices and our checks and balances, we will be just fine. We need to find the silver lining, keep an open mind. Nothing is as bad as it seems. And maybe, if we give him a chance,...
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Well said, and also if you don't like his rhetoric like I don't, I'm still eagerly anticipating his pragmatic policies to see how they work out.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 9:26pm Jan 20, 2017 9:26pm
  •  NathanAhern
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[quote=Not-KPMG;9463044]Sure

Now, seriously : who expects a war to start somewhere, because of Trump, in 3 months.??
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Wars are started all the time.

I would take a bet that he ends and prevents more wars than are started.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 9:42pm Jan 20, 2017 9:42pm
  •  MartyGP
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What do you reckon folks? Big gaps in all the USD crosses on Monday?

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Donald Drumpf deserves a chance, as any other president would have. The American people spoke and elected him for a reason. Even if you don't agree with the reasoning, he is still our next president. The gridlock and divide that has swept our nation will only be perpetuated if Donald Drumpf isn't given a chance from the get-go. Americans will hold him accountable through their voices and our checks and balances, we will be just fine. We need to find the silver lining, keep an open mind. Nothing is as bad as it seems. And maybe, if we give him a...
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That was a very hopeful post, and for everyone's sakes I hope you're right. No way back now.


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Calling someone stupid is like calling yourself stupid.
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No it isn't. Not even a little bit.


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I would take a bet that he ends and prevents more wars than are started.
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As would I. The man has too many business interests in too many countries to want to start wars with... anyone, pretty much.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 9:47pm Jan 20, 2017 9:47pm
  •  Ill-b-back
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I hope the rumors of election hacks are true, because if not that means Americans really vote for this clown. This is serious!!! This is really disturbing! Global stupidity is taking over, soon what's next is mountains of trash and then WALL-E
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I'll let you in on a secret.

Americans really did vote for Trump,

election hacks had nothing to do with creating false votes or tampering with voting machines...
Come with me if you want to live....
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 10:14pm Jan 20, 2017 10:14pm
  •  Oj_Jakarta
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as a product of democracy, like it or not, trump must be given a chance
let him work and prove his words
sorry for my bad english
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 10:16pm Jan 20, 2017 10:16pm
  •  Ratmach
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The only hacks, which weren't actually hacks, were in some major inner-cities. MASSIVE miscounting of votes, mainly due to "duplicate reads", in places like Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly.... all, by the way, major Democratic strongholds. So even though Hillary won in all those places, as expected, if full recounts were done we'd find that she won by less, by far less than what the official results show. And if this is indicative of elsewhere around the country, I bet if we did a full recount of EVERYWHERE, Trump would have won by a massive landslide.... he would have won several close states that he barely lost.

So yeah, there were problems with the election numbers, all right... but just the opposite of what Hillary supporters and Trump haters want us to believe. And of course we've also got the major, MAJOR assist the mainstream media threw to Hillary during the entire course of the election, first the primaries and then the general. The lopsided anti-Trump, pro-Hillary message 24/7 was unbelievable.

Oh, and one more thing, to anyone who were shocked that Trump won: Did you not watch ANY of the rallies/speeches? Did you not see the VAST difference in the enthusiasm level between Trump supporters and Hillary supporters? By all rights, this should have been a blowout of massive proportions.... in Trump's favor.
 
 
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  • Jan 20, 2017 11:28pm Jan 20, 2017 11:28pm
  •  aaven
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Greetings from India. I think this is the first time there was so much interest in the guard change in the US from India. Many people were glued to the television sets for the swearing in ceremony.

I observed that Trump's behavior mellowed down as if he was done with the campaigning mode and really stepped into the presidents shoes.

Just want to wish USA a new positive start...
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 1:46am Jan 21, 2017 1:46am
  •  Price
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Thank you..... I saw his inaugural speech and I was extremely impressed. He is calling for people to come together, and there are people still complaining loudly. Do they NOT want to come together? To work together?
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 3:06am Jan 21, 2017 3:06am
  •  cliffedwards
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I'll let you in on a secret.
Americans really did vote for Trump,
election hacks had nothing to do with creating false votes or tampering with voting machines...
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You may be right But we will never know.
Without argument, under US constitutional law, Mr Trump is indeed the legally elected President of the US. I wish him and the US well.
However my confusion concerns a different principle. I dont understand how any country can claim to be a democracy,that can elect any person to any position when they they have not been elected by a majority of the people. I understand that this is the second time in as many decades that this has happened. Is there not something wrong with such a system.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 3:59am Jan 21, 2017 3:59am
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just wondering how well informed is Trump (and the general public in USA) about US trade?

"According to economic data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, U.S. real manufacturing output has risen by nearly 80% over the past 25 years. This represents the continuation of a long trend: U.S. manufacturing value-added has grown eightfold since 1947 in real terms.

Vast productivity gains relating to increased use of automation and information technologies have helped U.S. manufacturers retain and in many areas enhance their global competitiveness in recent years, even as the number of Americans employed in manufacturing has declined since its peak in 1979."

also

"American farmers and ranchers also depend on exports. The same is true for America’s farmers and ranchers. One in three acres on America’s farms is planted for exports. For many crops, such as wheat or almonds, more than half is sold abroad. U.S. agriculture is so productive there’s no way Americans could consume this bounty alone."

https://www.uschamber.com/international/international-policy/benefits-international-trade-0
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 4:27am Jan 21, 2017 4:27am
  •  Ill-b-back
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Quoting cliffedwards
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You may be right But we will never know.
Without argument, under US constitutional law, Mr Trump is indeed the legally elected President of the US. I wish him and the US well.
However my confusion concerns a different principle. I dont understand how any country can claim to be a democracy,that can elect any person to any position when they they have not been elected by a majority of the people. I understand that this is the second time in as many decades that this has happened. Is there not something wrong with such a system.
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I understand your sentiments Cliff.
My understanding is the system operates to help ensure the diverse interests and aspirations of the people of a large nation such as the USA are represented more equitably. I think it is designed so a candidate cannot win the presidency with the majority of the vote by having strong support of just 1 heavily populated region because he appeals to their specific needs/desires. The college vote helps to some degree to avoid this.
I'm Australian and only learnt of this system when Al Gore lost in 2000.
Come with me if you want to live....
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 6:16am Jan 21, 2017 6:16am
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Trump demonstrated he can say or do whatever he wants and he got massive support to do it.no arguments,no criticism -just keep saying "Yes Sir" for the next 8 years.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 6:16am Jan 21, 2017 6:16am
  •  ilhaner
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After all the babbling on hacks, Trump remains the president and Democrats a bunch of crooks. The hacking of Democrats' mails revealed their true colors and i think Americans must be grateful to Mr. Putin for it.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 8:10am Jan 21, 2017 8:10am
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Trump won because so many 'forgotten' people are sick of the Status Quo. He represents something different. He represents HOPE for people who are struggling. He represents the possibility of a brighter future for formerly industrial areas that have been ravaged by outsourcing to low-wage economies and general economic slowdown. These are the exact same reasons UK voted out of EU.

IF Trump can pull off even half the recovery and jobs repatriation he is promising Your country the USA will be Rocking, and since a rising tide lifts all boats all those Hillary supporters who have been so vociferous in their protests and facilitated rioting by their actions will benefit greatly too.

Given that Trump IS now president as a result of an exhaustive democratic process it is incumbent upon all who would defend democracy to uphold and support him in his endeavours to his best for his country as President.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 8:23am Jan 21, 2017 8:23am
  •  thomaspaine
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Trump won because so many 'forgotten' people are sick of the Status Quo. He represents something different. He represents HOPE for people who are struggling. He represents the possibility of a brighter future for formerly industrial areas that have been ravaged by outsourcing to low-wage economies and general economic slowdown. These are the exact same reasons UK voted out of EU.

IF Trump can pull off even half the recovery and jobs repatriation he is promising Your country the USA will be Rocking, and since a rising tide lifts all boats all...
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Start cutting ambitions already, half of 25 millions jobs is 12,5 millions
don't even his supporters believed in his crap rhetoric
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 9:38am Jan 21, 2017 9:38am
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Quoting cliffedwards
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You may be right But we will never know.
Without argument, under US constitutional law, Mr Trump is indeed the legally elected President of the US. I wish him and the US well.
However my confusion concerns a different principle. I dont understand how any country can claim to be a democracy,that can elect any person to any position when they they have not been elected by a majority of the people. I understand that this is the second time in as many decades that this has happened. Is there not something wrong with such a system.
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The electoral college is fair. Without it New York and California would decide who is President. Farm country is more sparse but state's rights matter, and need to be factored fairly as a nation, not based on the desires of 2 highly concentrated urban areas.

Two examples to ponder.

California used to have a state electoral college for this reason. The cities in the south are more heavily populated than the farm country in the north. When they did away with their electoral college, it completely screwed up water rights legislation and farming has suffered because more water goes to the cities now, and in turn their economy has suffered because of it.

The other example is that Clinton won the popular vote based on California. So one state gave her that lead. California's demographic and heavily left leaning political make up is not representational of the entire country.

The US is a constitutional republic for a reason. Democracy is mob rule.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 9:44am Jan 21, 2017 9:44am
  •  digit1288
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As of December 2016, the rate of unemployment was 4.7%, which equates to 7,529,000 people.

Trump wants to create 25 million new jobs.

Silly question, but who is going to fill the 17,471,000 jobs left over?
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 9:50am Jan 21, 2017 9:50am
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The electoral college is fair. Without it New York and California would decide who is President. Farm country is more sparse but state's rights matter, and need to be factored fairly as a nation, not based on the desires of 2 highly concentrated urban environments.

Two examples to ponder.

California used to have a state electoral college for this reason. The cities in the south are more heavily populated than the farm country in the north. When they did away with their electoral college, it completely screwed up water rights legislation...
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The US democracy is flawed and anachronic. Like in ancient Greece giving rights or handicap to some groups.

It looks like people living in the farm country have more priviliges as their vote matter more. (But they still feel oppressed by the system?!)

In continental Europe it is unthinkable someone gets 3M more votes and loses because her/his voters are less worth than others. Impossible in developed country.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 10:05am Jan 21, 2017 10:05am
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The US democracy is flawed and anachronic. Like in ancient Greece giving rights or handicap to some groups.

It looks like people living in the farm country have more priviliges as their vote matter more. (But they still feel oppressed by the system?!)

In continental Europe it is unthinkable someone gets 3M more votes and loses because her/his voters are less worth than others. Impossible in developed country.
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The EU democratically elected Junker and Tusk? Lecture us about rights when you actually have some.

The United States is called that for a reason. States are sovereign. They technically can secede from the Union. This is why the electoral college exists. As an attempt to fairly balance state's rights as part of a union.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 11:42am Jan 21, 2017 11:42am
  •  JakubSzalaFX
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The EU democratically elected Junker and Tusk? Lecture us about rights when you actually have some.

The United States is called that for a reason. States are sovereign. They technically can secede from the Union. This is why the electoral college exists. As an attempt to fairly balance state's rights as part of a union.
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They were appointed by heads of state or governements, who were elected by the people. Real power lies in parliament which is directly elected. But this is not the case.

Still in the US 45.9% is more than 48%. What a laugh.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 1:05pm Jan 21, 2017 1:05pm
  •  Jfx
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They were appointed by heads of state or governements, who were elected by the people. Real power lies in parliament which is directly elected. But this is not the case.

Still in the US 45.9% is more than 48%. What a laugh.
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After reading your comment I just want to say, I have a lot of compassion for the mentally disabled.

No harm intended. I wish you all the best.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 1:14pm Jan 21, 2017 1:14pm
  •  JakubSzalaFX
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After reading your comment I just want to say, I have a lot of compassion for the mentally disabled.

No harm intended. I wish you all the best.
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Me too, but still I think you could defend yourself better with no personal attacks. Best wishes.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 3:23pm Jan 21, 2017 3:23pm
  •  Not-KPMG
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I think you last posters here, need to take a break, go out, drink some alcohol, and start thinking of positives - fun, life, family, happiness.
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Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 3:30pm Jan 21, 2017 3:30pm
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As long as Trump sticks to America great policy we know his moves and helps us read the market. Creating more jobs is part of that plan , not achieving fully who cares.
. Why some women ( 250,000 mob) hate trump so much ? He made few comments around groping when he was a lad.Don't think Theresa May stands a chance with her free trade talks - lecturing him may make him very angry ...
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 4:20pm Jan 21, 2017 4:20pm
  •  Kristo
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Donald Trump deserves a chance, as any other president would have. The American people spoke and elected him for a reason. Even if you don't agree with the reasoning, he is still our next president. The gridlock and divide that has swept our nation will only be perpetuated if Donald Trump isn't given a chance from the get-go. Americans will hold him accountable through their voices and our checks and balances, we will be just fine. We need to find the silver lining, keep an open mind. Nothing is as bad as it seems. And maybe, if we give him a chance,...
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Agreed. One of the better posts I have read.
If there is ever any doubt then there is no doubt.
 
 
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  • Jan 21, 2017 7:56pm Jan 21, 2017 7:56pm
  •  Subdude
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. Why some women ( 250,000 mob) hate trump so much ? He made few comments around groping when he was a lad.Don't think Theresa May stands a chance with her free trade talks - lecturing him may make him very angry ...
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A few comments when he was a lad? What is the cutoff for the term "lad" - 60? Because he bragged about using his power to grab women's pussies when he was 58 years old (2005). He also was recorded making overt comments about 10 year old girls saying he would date them when they grow up - go find it, it's very easy to do. That's just two examples of our president admitting to being a sexual predator, there are many more. Not to mention a good dozen actual women who have come forward and confirmed everything he said... oh wait, I know what Trumpsters would say here - it's all lies, right? And Bill Cosby is innocent too.

Hmm, and I wonder why all those women are not on board with his presidency... really strange!
 
 
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  •  Pip-Miner
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A few comments when he was a lad? What is the cutoff for the term "lad" - 60? Because he bragged about using his power to grab women's pussies when he was 58 years old (2005). He also was recorded making overt comments about 10 year old girls saying he would date them when they grow up - go find it, it's very easy to do. That's just two examples of our president admitting to being a sexual predator, there are many more. Not to mention a good dozen actual women who have come forward and confirmed everything he said... oh wait, I know what Trumpsters...
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What's strange is most marching women would of voted for Hilary . Bill was far worse , he was no saint ... There are many links and jokes , I just picked the most civil link , not too crude as he was one bad boy Bill ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal
Further, why March when he already elected, don't you think it would been more beneficial before the election?
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2017 1:34am Jan 22, 2017 1:34am
  •  MartyGP
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Quoting ilhaner
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...i think Americans must be grateful to Mr. Putin for it.
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Not sure about that one, at all. Seeing as how the two countries are still seemingly at each other's throats to this day, the idea that the American people would be grateful for anything of the sort coming from Russia, in particular, when you really think about it, is very implausible. What you have described constitutes a cyber-attack on the US government by a foreign power - by Russia, of all countries. I recently read that the US had previously carried out the same actions against the Russian government. Could you imagine the (possibly literal) fallout if this had all happened twenty or thirty years ago?

Plus, it turned out well for some people this time, but if Russia did actually carry out this hack as easily as it seems, why would they stop there? You don't honestly think that Putin's a friend to the USA, do you?

Quoting Jfx
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The US is a constitutional republic for a reason. Democracy is mob rule.
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Okay. So are you saying that the United States is not a democracy?

Also, does that mean that Brexit was decided upon by, as you put it, mob rule?
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2017 2:12am Jan 22, 2017 2:12am
  •  Subdude
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Quoting Pip-Miner
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What's strange is most marching women would of voted for Hilary . Bill was far worse , he was no saint ... There are many links and jokes , I just picked the most civil link , not too crude as he was one bad boy Bill ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal
Further, why March when he already elected, don't you think it would been more beneficial before the election?
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Far worse, huh? Well, judging by your English, you must not be an American, especially since you're posting links to a well known, litigated to death story. Let me give you a crash course in how the law works here. Consensual sex - legal, sex assault - illegal. Bill Clinton did not engage in the latter, Trump did. Why are we talking about Clinton here anyway? Is he even the same person as his wife - or are you, like Trump, implying that his transgressions are her fault as well?

By the way, are you aware that one of Trump's former wives sued him for rape, which he settled out of court? When you put together all the things he said on camera, was accused and sued for, a very clear pattern emerges, and then suddenly stories of taking golden showers from hookers don't sound so implausible.
 
 
  • Comment #46
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  • Jan 22, 2017 3:16am Jan 22, 2017 3:16am
  •  Pip-Miner
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Quoting Subdude
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Far worse, huh? Well, judging by your English, you must not be an American, especially since you're posting links to a well known, litigated to death story. Let me give you a crash course in how the law works here. Consensual sex - legal, sex assault - illegal. Bill Clinton did not engage in the latter, Trump did. Why are we talking about Clinton here anyway? Is he even the same person as his wife - or are you, like Trump, implying that his transgressions are her fault as well?

By the way, are you aware that one of Trump's former wives sued him...
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You didn't answer my question . No , I'm Australian, I must say if his such a bad guy why did your democratic process elect him?
 
 
  • Comment #47
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  • Jan 22, 2017 3:26am Jan 22, 2017 3:26am
  •  Aussi
  • Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 4047 Comments
Old film saying " allways look on the bright side of life "
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
 
 
  • Comment #48
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  • Jan 22, 2017 4:56am Jan 22, 2017 4:56am
  •  Jfx
  • | Joined Jun 2009 | Status: Member | 6 Comments
Quoting JakubSzalaFX
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Me too, but still I think you could defend yourself better with no personal attacks. Best wishes.
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Yeah well, imagine trying to explain to someone why a UN resolution passed that didn't favor China but they keep repeating a false equivalence that a billion Chinese were for it so the popular vote should matter in the UN.

Comparing the US which is a UNION of states to a completely different political system of direct democracy makes as much sense.

Quoting MartyGP
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Okay. So are you saying that the United States is not a democracy?

Also, does that mean that Brexit was decided upon by, as you put it, mob rule?
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The U.S. is not a democracy. It's a constitutional republic.

The UK isn't a democracy either. It's a constitutional monarchy with legislative power shared between Parliament and Crown through royal prerogative powers.

The Brexit referendum vote isn't binding. It ultimately needs to be decided by Parliament. They are proceeding with it to reflect the will of the people, but actually aren't legally required to do so.
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2017 5:43am Jan 22, 2017 5:43am
  •  SickOfScam
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Aug 2013 | 492 Comments
That´s the real challange.
This is true democracy - establishing laws to enable the mentally disabled to finally get the power to rule.
Why not, this "already worked" out in good old Rome


Quoting JakubSzalaFX
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Still in the US 45.9% is more than 48%. What a laugh.
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Quoting Jfx
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I just want to say, I have a lot of compassion for the mentally disabled.
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perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
 
 
  • Comment #50
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  • Jan 22, 2017 6:15am Jan 22, 2017 6:15am
  •  nbfx
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Quoting digit1288
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As of December 2016, the rate of unemployment was 4.7%, which equates to 7,529,000 people.

Trump wants to create 25 million new jobs.

Silly question, but who is going to fill the 17,471,000 jobs left over?
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Let's go with people that don't appear in the official statistics for whatever reason but would nevertheless be delighted at the chance of a job (as would their household) and consequentially their improved fortunes.?
 
 
  • Comment #51
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  • Jan 22, 2017 6:40am Jan 22, 2017 6:40am
  •  SickOfScam
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Hopefully, not new refugees from Iran?

Quoting digit1288
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As of December 2016, the rate of unemployment was 4.7%, which equates to 7,529,000 people. Trump wants to create 25 million new jobs.
Silly question, but who is going to fill the 17,471,000 jobs left over?
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perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
 
 
  • Comment #52
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  • Jan 22, 2017 7:13am Jan 22, 2017 7:13am
  •  cliffedwards
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Quoting Jfx
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The U.S. is not a democracy. It's a constitutional republic.
The UK isn't a democracy either. It's a constitutional monarchy with legislative power shared between Parliament and Crown through royal prerogative powers.
The Brexit referendum vote isn't binding. It ultimately needs to be decided by Parliament. They are proceeding with it to reflect the will of the people, but actually aren't legally required to do so.
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Agree with many of points you make..
.. but saying US and UK ARENT democracies is bit like saying a DAISY isnt a plant but a Asteraceae or Compositae.

Democracy is a broad church.. Its expressed in many different systems and structures.
but it does have a fundamental principle which recognizes the primacy of the electoral majority. Many as has been noted, are designed to take the extra step of have mechanisms built in to protect the minority against the majority.

I have no problem with such mechanisms.. designed in many cases to limit possibility of a "mob rule" version of the system, as has been noted above. However such limitations and safeguards should IMHO not distort the fundamental principle and single most important characteristic of democracy,.. which is that whether it involves the election of a municipal rat-catcher or the head of state, that nobody can be so elected WITHOUT an electoral majority.

What I suggest requires an amendment to the constitution, revisiting in the US Electoral College system, which has now (unbelievably) allowed this to happened twice within two decades. And what I would suggest is that in future, electoral law be amended to require candidates to win on BOTH criteria... to qualify for election.
ie To win both through the safeguarding Electoral college system AND the Popular Vote.

IMHO, its not sufficient that system be fair, but that it APPEARS to be fair.
The current system doesn't seem to.
Just a thought.
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2017 9:10am Jan 22, 2017 9:10am
  •  executivefx
  • | Joined Oct 2015 | Status: GOD is REAL. | 7 Comments
Everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face.Mike Tyson.
100% KENYAN.
 
 
  • Comment #54
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  • Jan 22, 2017 9:28am Jan 22, 2017 9:28am
  •  Guest
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not everyone has a plan.Buster Douglas
 
 
  • Comment #55
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  • Jan 22, 2017 9:48am Jan 22, 2017 9:48am
  •  nbfx
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Quoting cliffedwards
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IMHO, its not sufficient that system be fair, but that it APPEARS to be fair.
The current system doesn't seem to.
Just a thought.
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Not everything that appears fair actually is. Appearances can be very deceptive...
 
 
  • Comment #56
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  • Jan 22, 2017 9:48am Jan 22, 2017 9:48am
  •  executivefx
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Quoting Guest
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not everyone has a plan.Buster Douglas
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having no plan is also a plan.
100% KENYAN.
 
 
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  • Jan 22, 2017 8:55pm Jan 22, 2017 8:55pm
  •  pipseek
  • | Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Junior Member | 1 Comment
Creating a job is easy I do it every-time my grandson wants money,
now a satisfying well paying meaningful job, well there's the rub.
 
 
  • Comment #58
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  • Jan 22, 2017 10:44pm Jan 22, 2017 10:44pm
  •  Subdude
  • | Joined Aug 2007 | Status: If it walks like a duck... | 546 Comments
Quoting Pip-Miner
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You didn't answer my question . No , I'm Australian, I must say if his such a bad guy why did your democratic process elect him?
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Because it's a flawed, antiquated and frankly, undemocratic process that doesn't reflect predominant demographic trends. It's a process that allows someone to get 2.9 million fewer (legal, unlike Trump claimed!) votes, and still become president. That would be inconceivable in your country, wouldn't it? Well, here it has happened twice in the last 5 presidential elections.

Not to worry - work is under way to effectively nullify Electoral College, without completely abolishing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)#National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
 
 
  • Comment #59
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  • Jan 23, 2017 1:07am Jan 23, 2017 1:07am
  •  hello2u
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Chump is already disappointing dollar longs bigly.
 
 
  • Comment #60
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  • Jan 23, 2017 1:36am Jan 23, 2017 1:36am
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Quoting hello2u
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Chump is already disappointing dollar longs bigly.
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you missed it all "" what goes up must come down and what went down must go up timing is the key in forex "" it as nothing to do with trump
ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
 
 
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  •  mamalujo
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Quoting Aussi
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you missed it all "" what goes up must come down and what went down must go up timing is the key in forex "" it as nothing to do with trump
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wisest quote i've heard in fx trading in a while.

really, if your'e patient enough, you will mostly take trades that have a high probability of reward.

just know your support and resistance, fundamentals, and stick to higher time frames.
 
 
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  • Jan 23, 2017 3:17am Jan 23, 2017 3:17am
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Quoting mamalujo
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wisest quote i've heard in fx trading in a while.

really if your'e patient enough and you will mostly take trades that have a high probability of reward.

just know your support and resistance, fundamentals, and stick to higher time frames.
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ONE MUST LEARN, DO IT AND IT WILL BE KIND TO YOU
 
 
  • Comment #63
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  • Jan 23, 2017 4:59am Jan 23, 2017 4:59am
  •  cliffedwards
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Quoting nbfx
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Not everything that appears fair actually is. Appearances can be very deceptive...
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Naturally.. however its the duty of our democracy to organise things in such a way as to reduce such ambiguity to a minimum...in order to maximise common confidence in the fairness of the system. Which was the purpose of my suggestion.
 
 
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