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    The build-up to the March 15th Dutch elections will be watched by the market very closely. Current polling indicates that Geert Wilders’ anti-EU Freedom is ahead and likely to win over 30 of the 150 parliamentary seats. The party has called for “de-Islamification” of the Netherlands and pledged to withdraw the country from the EU. If the polls are correct in predicting strong support for populism by the Dutch, it could fuel fears of a similar showing in the upcoming French elections. Although this is clearly well below the amount needed for an outright majority, it is important to note that The Netherlands has ... (full story)

House of cards! EU is on notice! Time to get the popcorn because this will get interesting.
The tide of populism sweeping EU politics is certainly a red flag
Quoting Jedi9
House of cards! EU is on notice! Time to get the popcorn because this will get interesting.
30 of 150 seats. That's a measly 20%, so take it easy.

Mark my words, the EU will outlive the UK and probably the US as well.

No worries here !
Quoting barkie
30 of 150 seats. That's a measly 20%, so take it easy.

Mark my words, the EU will outlive the UK and probably the US as well.

No worries here !
Perhaps, but I think you missed the bigger picture in my statement. I am glad you have such convictions and confidence but others may disagree with your skewed perspective.
Just to give some context, in 2012 only two parties achieved more than 30 seats, the rest all achieved 15 and under. So, grabbing 30 seats would prove significant even though it's only 20% as you rightly say
Bad, bad,bad boy. Huh!
Quoting barkie
Mark my words, the EU will outlive the UK and probably the US as well. No worries here !
Quoting barkie
30 of 150 seats. That's a measly 20%, so take it easy.

Mark my words, the EU will outlive the UK and probably the US as well.

No worries here !
IOW: woof woof!
Quoting Jedi9
House of cards! EU is on notice! Time to get the popcorn because this will get interesting.
Perhaps, but I think you missed the bigger picture. I am glad you have such convictions and confidence but others may disagree with your skewed perspective.

Hmmm. interesting how these "insightful contributions" are interchangeable. ROFL
Quoting JamesHarte
The tide of populism sweeping EU politics is certainly a red flag
For sure..
And aided and abetted by Russian financing and social media interference.. it certainly may be a "red flag" in more ways than one...

"National Front leader Marine Le Pen is struggling to raise the 20 million euros ($21 million) she needs to fund French presidential and legislative campaigns in 2017 after the party’s Russian lender failed, the party treasurer said." Source Bloomberg 12/22/16

Ooops! Not without problems? ?? Never mind.. Maybe Mr Trump can suggest a replacement backer?
Quoting barkie
30 of 150 seats. That's a measly 20%, so take it easy.

Mark my words, the EU will outlive the UK and probably the US as well.

No worries here !
Assuming that 20% of parliamentary seats represents 20% of the Dutch electorate, I would say that it is very worrying for the Netherlands, especially given that the Dutch are renowned for their tolerance. This means that 20% of the electorate are so frustrated with the EU that they are willing to align themselves with a party which is so anti EU, anti Islam and anti immigrant. If I were the EU, I would be very worried indeed.
Quoting cliffedwards
For sure..
And aided and abetted by Russian financing and social media interference.. it certainly may be a "red flag" in more ways than one...

"National Front leader Marine Le Pen is struggling to raise the 20 million euros ($21 million) she needs to fund French presidential and legislative campaigns in 2017 after the party’s Russian lender failed, the party treasurer said." Source Bloomberg 12/22/16

Ooops! Not without problems? ?? Never mind.. Maybe Mr Trump can suggest a replacement backer?
Your wish is our command " Marine Le Pen seen in Trump Tower" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38600560
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Marine Le Pen just wants to be sure to take her place in the "Next Shower".

[quote=Devauxt -Your wish is our command " Marine Le Pen seen in Trump Tower" quote]
[quote=SickOfScam;9435153]Marine Le Pen just wants to be sure to take her place in the "Next Shower".

What are you trying to communicate??
If Marine needs something from DT, then she must somehow that earn.
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While most here have become embroiled in the Trump Dossier scandal, and the involvement of Russian Intelligence agencies in the US Presidential election, it is much more important now to focus on Russia policy interest in the pending European Election cycle. While an ideal outcome for Putin would be the establishment of more benign EU political profile, political destabilization, and the harnessing of populist frustration, ALL forms of destabilization may be regarded as being in the Russian interest.

Both the UK and the EU democracies have created significant difficulties through sanction and blocklists, for Putins regime. It is axiomatic that this increases the priority for Putin and FSB to exert what influence they can on the outcome of these elections to secure a more favorable populist regimes in leading EU nations.

The Trump debacle, which continues to divide many in the US, has shaken allies faith in the integrity of the incoming Trump administration, has driven serious wedges between in incoming administration, and the US intelligence community, has been a great victory for Putin. (whether PE Trump has been compromised or not), one thing CAN be established from current events, and that the uncertainty, the internal conflict, the divisive rhetoric, doubt and distrust it has fostered is a major success for Russian foreign policy aspirations.

Le Pens exposed Russian connections are already in the public domain.
Others, where they exist, must likewise be exposed and outed.
Europe and the UK, must learn from whats happening in the US, and prevent a replay.
Quoting JamesHarte
The tide of populism sweeping EU politics is certainly a red flag
I understand everyone is entitled to a opinion but your opinion is a red flag to me please explain how (populism) is a bad thing it's the most popular candidate getting voted in how would you prefer change in political landscape with violence because as far as I can see these are what your two options or we can all live like north Koreans. also you sound like a bigot as you seem unable to accept others opinions and as a result of this you have to label them
Quoting SickOfScam
If Marine needs something from DT, then she must somehow that earn.
What are you trying to communicate??
Populism is just a miserable beginning of something that later (if allow) develop into fascism.North Korea is a good example.
Quoting SickOfScam
Populism is just a miserable beginning of something that later (if allow) develop into fascism.North Korea is a good example.

please explain how you think the most popular candidate getting into power is a bad thing?? please explain how democracy is a bad thing??
Quoting SickOfScam
Populism is just a miserable beginning of something that later (if allow) develop into fascism.North Korea is a good example.
That is actually incorrect. North Korea was not born out of Fascism, but communism which are two different ideologies with certain degrees of divergence in their concepts.
Quoting SickOfScam
Populism is just a miserable beginning of something that later (if allow) develop into fascism.North Korea is a good example.
What you call populism is simply the electorate calling the government and the EU to account. The fact that the EU and the national governments only answer to these criticisms is "Europe needs more EU" is in its self the definition of Fascism
North Korea is born (as well as many other regimes) out of populism, which later by its nature always evolving into fascism. (if allowed)
Quoting SickOfScam
North Korea is born (as well as many other regimes) out of populism, which later by its nature always evolving into fascism. (if allowed)
I think you got that wrong Lol

Following the Japanese surrender at the end of World War II in 1945, Korea was divided into two zones along the 38th parallel by the United States and the Soviet Union, with the north occupied by the Soviets and the south by the Americans.
Quoting SickOfScam
North Korea is born (as well as many other regimes) out of populism, which later by its nature always evolving into fascism. (if allowed)
Again by academic standards, the premise of your statement is theoretically incorrect. Most scholars on the subject matter will disagree with your assertion.
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Populism is nothing but lick the balls to the last scum of society and later turn their primitivism against the political enemies. And then we get fascism... This is the old equation - and it works. (if allowed)
And what do you think how many "academics" they have in North Korea, and them also hurts some "academic thing" for the other people.
Quoting Jedi9
Again by academic standards, the premise of your statement is theoretically incorrect. Most scholars on the subject matter will disagree with your assertion.
Quoting SickOfScam
Populism is nothing but lick the balls to the last scum of society and later turn their primitivism against the political enemies.
If your only answer to the views, opinions and reasonable concerns to the European electorate is meaningless abuse and insult, you are indeed not better that the socialist fascists in the EU. Your inability to construct a reasoned and researched opinion says it all about you
Stop repeating these stupid words as distraught child. You don't know at all what these words actually means.

Quoting Devauxt
If my only answer to the views is "socialist fascists", it says all about me
Quoting SickOfScam
Stop repeating these stupid words as distraught child. You don't know at all what these words actually means.
Why, are they incorrect? and if so explain why, or don't you know?
Quoting SickOfScam
And what do you think how many "academics" they have in North Korea, and them also hurts some "academic thing" for the other people.
Excuse me sir, I said nothing about academics in North Korea. You do know there are other academic institutions in the world that study this subject matter right?

North Korea was not born out of populism. And North Korea's ideology in which their nationalistic views were founded on was never from fascism two points you used in which are factually incorrect. You can continue to disagree but I am warning you that doing so only makes you look foolish.
Quoting Jedi9
Excuse me sir, I said nothing about academics in North Korea. You do know there are other academic institutions in the world that study this subject matter right?

North Korea was not born out of populism. And North Korea's ideology in which their nationalistic views were founded on was never from fascism two points you used in which are factually incorrect. You can continue to disagree but I am warning you that doing so only makes you look foolish.
More foolish
Yeea you mean, something like the CIA "academics".
Not a single regime can not develop and survive a long time without the support of primitivism of social scum.
Quoting Jedi9
Excuse me sir, there are other academic institutions in the world that study this subject matter right?
Quoting SickOfScam
Yeea you mean, something like the CIA "academics".
Not a single regime can not develop and survive a long time without the support of primitivism of social scum.
Once again, you are using words from the English language but they don't seem to be in the right order or there are words in there that shouldn't be there, either way, your sentence makes no sense in English
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While this exchange of abuse is amusing..
there are central questions above that are deserving of better..
Particularly our understanding of "populism"

IMHO one aspect of populism is a healthy dimension of political diversity.
Its at the core of democracy in as much as it respects the will of majority,
However IMHO The success of Democracy depends on an electorate using exercising their franchise with reason and responsibility whereas Populism encourages emotional and prejudiced exercise, and to that extent it exposes itself to abuse and manipulation. In my view it becomes dangerous to society, and destabilizing, when it exploits emotional, xenophobic nationalistic and racist themes, encouraged and manipulated by political extremists, who amplify and exploit genuine fears and concerns with simplistic answers to what are often very complex problems.
Typically Populist lobbyists and leaders, manipulate the most disaffected and vulnerable, the least educated, the conspiracy theorists and general outsiders. Though it may also attract selfproclaimed anarchists from the mainstream They exploit their audiences lack of understanding of the system, and build celebrity status to present themslves as champions of often very legitimate causes... for acquisition and retention of personal power.

I think of it bit like the stereotyped used car or double glazing salesman, who ply vulnerable customers with irresponsible ego-appealing claims, eschew accountability and peddle highly unethical, distorted and simplistic presentations of what they are trying to sell.
Nothing wrong with used car salesmen. or double glazing salesmen.. some very ethical, but but many of their sales techniques are highly questionable and unaccountable..
Which is why weve got the sale of goods and consumer protection acts.
Unfortunately neither apply to popularist con-men... who appeal to emotion fear and prejudice ... (edit) nationalism, racism, sectarianism and xenophobia, rather than reason.
Quoting SickOfScam
Yeea you mean, something like the CIA "academics".
Not a single regime can not develop and survive a long time without the support of primitivism of social scum.
No I don't mean the CIA and please don't put words in my mouth. I never mentioned the CIA so I have no idea what you are talking about.

Have a nice day sir.
Quoting cliffedwards
While this exchange of abuse is amusing..
there are central questions above that are deserving of better..
Particularly our understanding of "populism"

IMHO one aspect of populism is a healthy dimension of political diversity.
Its at the core of democracy in as much as it respects the will of majority,
However IMHO The success of Democracy depends on an electorate using exercising their franchise with reason and responsibility whereas Populism encourages emotional and prejudiced exercise, and to that extent it exposes itself to abuse and...
Political con men exist on both sides of the debate
I just wanted to show you that there is no "academics standard", or if, then there are so many standards as the "academics", no matter where they are.
BTW, I don't believe that would be one of the greatest genius (especially in the field of culture and art), which would allow to be called "academic". It has always been a bureaucratic phrase.
Quoting Jedi9
Again by academic standards.
Quoting SickOfScam
I just wanted to show you that there is no "academics standard", or if, then there are so many standards as the "academics", no matter where they are.
BTW, I don't believe that would be one of the greatest genius (especially in the field of culture and art), which would allow to be called "academic". It has always been a bureaucratic phrase.
And again, you are using words from the English language but they don't seem to be in the right order or there are words in there that shouldn't be there, either way, your sentences makes no sense in English
Quoting SickOfScam
I just wanted to show you that there is no "academics standard", or if, then there are so many standards as the "academics", no matter where they are.
BTW, I don't believe that would be one of the greatest genius (especially in the field of culture and art), which would allow to be called "academic". It has always been a bureaucratic phrase.
It doesn't matter to me what your opinions on Academics are, that is a fringe abstract to think the way you do on that matter, which I disagree. I was stating facts that the majority of people who are astute observers of history and the terms that are and have been defined, and is widely accepted as facts is something you incorrectly characterized and the examples you had used is misstating facts altogether. That is all my point is. Nothing else and nothing more.
Quoting Devauxt
... Following the Japanese surrender at the end of World War II in 1945, Korea was divided into two zones along the 38th parallel by the United States and the Soviet Union, with the north occupied by the Soviets and the south by the Americans.
The two halves subsequently went to war, technically they are still at war.

...and to pick up on an earlier post of yours, a senior moderate Dutch politician was assassinated by a <insert-preferred-religious-nutter-descriptor>
And here is again - my "private academic"! If you "don't understand a damn thing," then get your head out of your hole - and breathe.Maybe you need some light and a bit of oxygen.
Quoting Devauxt
And again, If my only answer to the views is "socialist fascists", it says all about me
Quoting cliffedwards
They exploit their audiences lack of understanding of the system, and build celebrity status to present themslves as champions of often very legitimate causes... for acquisition and retention of personal power.
I can only assume this is reference to the EU?
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le pen will win presidential election fillon and macron stand no chance and this will bring the house of card all in together fall end of the EU project short EUR/JPY and EUR/USD
Most EU countries do not have a say on important matters within the rules of the game. The Dutch elections aren't very relevant (other than serving as an indicator for the German elections in September). All major decisions on global politics are made in Washington, London, Berlin, and Brussels - in that order. The other talking heads provide support to market those decisions to the respective electorate. They do matter in terms of specifics of domestic policy, but even there they have a very limited sway.
Quoting SickOfScam
And here is again - my "private academic"! If you "don't understand a damn thing," then get your head out of your hole - and breathe.Maybe you need some light and a bit of oxygen.
You shouldn't judge others by what you choose to do in your spare time. Your peccadilloes are safe with us. The issue with understanding your comments have nothing to do with me and everything to do with your ability to communicate clearly. As I have advised you before, get someone to check you comment before posting, it will be less embarrassing for you
Quoting Devauxt
You shouldn't judge others by what you choose to do in your spare time. Your peccadilloes are safe with us. The issue with understanding your comments have nothing to do with me and everything to do with your ability to communicate clearly. As I have advised you before, get someone to check you comment before posting, it will be less embarrassing for you
This must be the longest exchange you've had with SOS; I'm sure you understand him really... Barkie the Netherlanderthal will be happy with this, lol.
Quoting jen101
This must be the longest exchange you've had with SOS; I'm sure you understand him really... Barkie the Netherlanderthal will be happy with this, lol.
I detest stupidity and SoS is at the pinnacle of of Stupidity. In most cases, I cannot understand his utterings and it irritates me that I have to try and decipher his diatribe. The beauty is that I have in SoS, a one stop shop for my little pet hates including unresearched comments
Quoting Devauxt
I detest stupidity and SoS is at the pinnacle of of Stupidity. In most cases, I cannot understand his utterings and it irritates me that I have to try and decipher his diatribe. The beauty is that I have in SoS, a one stop shop for my little pet hates including unresearched comments

I am guessing and purely out of luck I will go out on a limb here, but there seems to be some long back ground story I am not privy to. There are ones with civil decorum and then there are ones who are agitators for what ever reasons their motives are, and I believe is to satisfy their own urges, nevertheless they get off on being the antagonist. At least that is the impression I am getting in these parts. I am questioning my own use of time and whether or not I am wasting it on such futile efforts. A sense of guilt starts to over come me as I contemplate that question.
Quoting Jedi9
I am guessing and purely out of luck I will go out on a limb here, but there seems to be some long back ground story I am not privy to. There are ones with civil decorum and then there are ones who are agitators for what ever reasons their motives are, and I believe is to satisfy their own urges, nevertheless they get off on being the antagonist. At least that is the impression I am getting in these parts. I am questioning my own use of time and whether or not I am wasting it on such futile efforts. A sense of guilt starts to over come me as I contemplate...
I can understand how you see the last part, and without knowing the history, that would fair comment. It all stemmed from EU discussions, which as you may well have gathered, is an entity I utterly detest. So for me it is not a waste of time and I managed to both feed my interest and garner entertainment in between trades
Quoting Devauxt
I detest stupidity and SoS is at the pinnacle of of Stupidity. In most cases, I cannot understand his utterings and it irritates me that I have to try and decipher his diatribe. The beauty is that I have in SoS, a one stop shop for my little pet hates including unresearched comments
It's entertaining nonetheless. SOS is deliberately winding you up and you're a bit like Victor Meldrew
Quoting jen101
It's entertaining nonetheless. SOS is deliberately winding you up and you're a bit like Victor Meldrew
SoS hasn't got the wit to do that, but I like the Victor Meldrew analogy ROFL
Jen, I hope that these "academics" finally figure out that the topic here are the Dutch Elections and growing populism, not North Korea, which Ross was touching without any reason.
Quoting jen101
This must be the longest exchange you've had with SOS; I'm sure you understand him really...
Quoting Devauxt
SoS hasn't got the wit to do that, but I like the Victor Meldrew analogy ROFL
Quoting SickOfScam
Jen, I hope that these "academics" finally figure out that the topic here are the Dutch Elections and growing populism, not North Korea, which Ross was touching without any reason.
Here, SOS makes perfect sense. Why don't you two kiss and make up?
Devauxt - Du elender Vollpfosten!
Hier in Deutschland gibt es so viele Ausländer, angefangen von Iren, Engländern und Amerikanern - neben vielen anderen - und wenn man nun bei all diesen Zugezogenen auf perfektes Deutsch achten würden, würde man von denen die das erwarten denken, dass sie primitiv und hinterwäldlerisch sind - welch Primitivlinge!
Sogar mit denen die bereits seit vielen Jahren hier leben, spricht man zum Teil in ihrer Sprache - einfach auf Grund von Respekt.

Euch Brexitliningen verdankend, wird sich unser Englisch noch weiter verschlechtern, da es in Europa an Bedeutung verlieren wird.

Quoting Devauxt
I test stupidity and in most cases, I cannot understand that I have to try the beauty of Stupidity.
Quoting jen101
Here, SOS makes perfect sense. Why don't you two kiss and make up?
From time to time he can construct a cogent sentence, but it is a rare occurrence. However, he is incapable of constructing a fact or researched based opinion and you know what low regard I hold those people in.
Quoting Devauxt
From time to time he can construct a cogent sentence, but it is a rare occurrence. However, he is incapable of constructing a fact or researched based opinion and you know what low regard I hold those people in.
I am starting to see that some become unhinged.
Quoting Jedi9
I am starting to see that some become unhinged.
Me or him? I am definitely unhinged, aren't you? I love debate and will engage with anyone who feels they have a valid case, but idiots just waste my time. I detest those too lazy to consider or research their responses
Quoting Devauxt
Me or him? I am definitely unhinged, aren't you? I love debate and will engage with anyone who feels they have a valid case, but idiots just waste my time. I detest those too lazy to consider or research their responses
I am mostly commenting on him as I saw that his response to you was all in a different language, I guess you set him off in some weird way. This place just gets stranger by the day, and I guess it is the end of the week and I am tired. I now have this compulsion to check back for more unsuspecting surprises, and in a way I find it entertaining. Does that make me a bad person?
Quoting Jedi9
I am mostly commenting on him as I saw that his response to you was all in a different language, I guess you set him off in some weird way. This place just gets stranger by the day, and I guess it is the end of the week and I am tired. I now have this compulsion to check back for more unsuspecting surprises, and in a way I find it entertaining. Does that make me a bad person?
Not at all, welcome to the mad house
Man, I trade, and like many others here during breaks I look at the FF. Sometimes, by the way (no time for grammar) I just snap a comment or a reflection, and if it "is not understandable" for you (my English or sense), just move on... and if you waste Your time then you're the idiot. Capeesh?

Quoting Devauxt
From time to time he can construct a cogent sentence, but it is a rare occurrence. However, he is incapable of constructing a fact or researched based opinion and you know what low regard I hold those people in.
Quoting SickOfScam
Devauxt - Du elender Vollpfosten!
Hier in Deutschland gibt es so viele Ausländer, angefangen von Iren, Engländern und Amerikanern - neben vielen anderen - und wenn man nun bei all diesen Zugezogenen auf perfektes Deutsch achten würden, würde man von denen die das erwarten denken, dass sie primitiv und hinterwäldlerisch sind - welch Primitivlinge!
Sogar mit denen die bereits seit vielen Jahren hier leben, spricht man zum Teil in ihrer Sprache - einfach auf Grund von Respekt.

Euch Brexitliningen verdankend, wird sich unser Englisch noch weiter...
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You wretched full post!
Here in Germany there are so many foreigners, starting from the Irish, the English and the Americans - among many others - and if one were to look after perfect German with all these people, one would expect them to be primitive and backward - what primitives!
Even with those who have lived here for many years, they speak in their own language - simply because of respect.

Thanks to you Brexitliningen, our English will deteriorate further, as it will lose importance in Europe.

Repeat after me: Ich bin ein krapfen.
Quoting SickOfScam
Man, I trade, and like many others here during breaks I look at the FF. Sometimes, by the way (no time for grammar) I just snap a comment or a reflection, and if it "is not understandable" for you (my English or sense), just move on... and if you waste Your time then you're the idiot. Capeesh?
Don't be silly. If it were only grammar, I wouldn't have anything to say about your posts, they often just don't make sense in English. If you post a stupid or inarticulate comment in here, on a subject that interests me, I guarantee you that I will call it as I see it. Blödmann
Quoting SickOfScam
Jen, I hope that these "academics" finally figure out that the topic here are the Dutch Elections and growing populism, not North Korea, which Ross was touching without any reason.

sorry if I was not clear like you ( I look at the FF. Sometimes, by the way (no time for grammar) I just snap a comment or a reflection)

I have looked for a different definition but can not find one. and it appears to have become a dirty word since the mainstream political parties are losing ground to more
the point I was trying to make was this is populism to me

populism-support for the concerns of ordinary people.
ordinary-with no special or distinctive features; normal
concern-make (someone) anxious or worried
popular party/individuals and are now trying to shut people up with POPULISM and before this it was calling people racist or islamophobic to shut them up I can see a pattern forming just call the ordinary people names to shame them into silence. if this pattern continuous we may as well be in north Korea as they have no POPULIST

POPULISM is just the most political parties/individuals getting the most votes it's not a bad thing and should not be used as a dirty word Obama was/is a POPULIST it's not a bad thing if I was eligible to vote in the USA I may/may not have voted for him but you have to respect the will of the people or you are going to have trouble
Hi mate, I'm sorry I was out. Please read again my previous posts related to the topic. It's only a few lines to read, but I think I´ve written almost everything. In short, Populists are not the popular majority, but an aggressive minority that, if necessary, will use also force to achieve its political goals.
Quoting Ross88
POPULISM is just the most political parties/individuals getting the most votes it's not a bad thing and should not be used as a dirty word Obama was/is a POPULIST it's not a bad thing if I was eligible to vote in the USA I may/may not have voted for him but you have to respect the will of the people or you are going to have trouble
Quoting SickOfScam
Hi mate, I'm sorry I was out. Please read again my previous posts related to the topic. It's only a few lines to read, but I think I´ve written almost everything. In short, Populists are not the popular majority, but an aggressive minority that, if necessary, will use also force to achieve its political goals.
by the dictionary definition it's not the definition says nothing about (aggressive minority that, if necessary, will use also force to achieve its political goals)

it says
populism-support for the concerns of ordinary people

ordinary people in Europe are not aggressive mad men they believe in democracy and are voting in the most popular party/individual to represent them
Quoting barkie
30 of 150 seats. That's a measly 20%, so take it easy.

Mark my words, the EU will outlive the UK and probably the US as well.

No worries here !
Never heard so much garbage in all my life. The EU was dead in the water a long time ago, how many bailouts has Greece had and the state of the Italian banks!!!!
I could go on and on and on but I rest my case.
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