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  • Abe adviser: Yen at 105 is appropriate given purchasing power parity

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    The market is very excited about this comment. USD/JPY quickly down to 119.70 as stops blown out in a drop from 120.40. USDJPY after the comments. The comments are from Koichi Hamada, adviser to Japanese Prime Minister Abe, speaking on BS Fuji TV. • Yen at 105./USD appropriate given purchasing parity • Yen at 120 is weak considering purchasing parity • Consumption will rise in Japan as stocks rise • Monetary policy is working well in Japan The market dropped as the comments were carried on Bloomberg.

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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:43am Apr 13, 2015 8:43am
  •  thegmann
  • | Joined Jun 2014 | Status: Member | 40 Comments
WTF lolol
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:43am Apr 13, 2015 8:43am
  •  senanata
  • | Joined Jun 2012 | Status: Member | 115 Comments
and what's that mean?
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:44am Apr 13, 2015 8:44am
  •  michaelpelly
  • Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Member | 1,992 Comments
Right! :-)
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:44am Apr 13, 2015 8:44am
  •  curiousboy
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 1 Comment
What is it?
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:46am Apr 13, 2015 8:46am
  •  Harmonic07
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2015 | 10 Comments
Meaning?
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:46am Apr 13, 2015 8:46am
  •  Guest
  • | IP XXX.XXX.114.61
i'm confused with that
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:46am Apr 13, 2015 8:46am
  •  keymoney
  • | Joined Nov 2014 | Status: Member | 42 Comments
injecting short term yen strength via abrupt talks.. hahaaa, missed that one
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:48am Apr 13, 2015 8:48am
  •  shiva
  • Joined Aug 2007 | Status: Doing It In Dubai | 48 Comments
Price displayed a Knee-jerk reaction?
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:49am Apr 13, 2015 8:49am
  •  Roachling
  • | Joined Jun 2014 | Status: Member | 21 Comments
Hamada's been trying to talk up the yen for months now. Never worked.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:51am Apr 13, 2015 8:51am
  •  justiniuxas
  • | Joined Oct 2014 | Status: Member | 82 Comments
made 1 pip Great job
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:51am Apr 13, 2015 8:51am
  •  Vermillion
  • Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Scalper / Swing Trader | 161 Comments
Let's see...possible pound sterling downturn, Abe says optimal usd/jpy is 105.....I'm going to see if I can short the gbp/jpy.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:52am Apr 13, 2015 8:52am
  •  Guest
  • | IP XX.XXX.191.226
It seems that the dollar is still strong
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:53am Apr 13, 2015 8:53am
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JPY: Abe advisor Hamada out in interview on TV, says yen is weak with USDJPY at 120 considering purchasing power parity, suggests 105 is more appropriate. A bit of a reaction in USDJPY there to this "news" as market tries to figure out whether Japan is sending a political signal on the JPY after the somewhat critical US Treasury Report on Japan's monetary policy last week.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 8:58am Apr 13, 2015 8:58am
  •  dchristi
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 82 Comments
Why would he be talking the yen down (bad for exports)? It implies that monetary policy has caused the $/Yen to overshoot (bad policy), while at the same time he says monetary policy is working well.

He says consumption will rise along with stocks, but his comments cast doubt on continuation of recent monetary policy, so stocks are falling.

What was he really hoping to accomplish here? I'm confused.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:04am Apr 13, 2015 9:04am
  •  Ratmach
  • Joined Dec 2014 | Status: Member | 352 Comments
"Why would he be talking the yen down"

Seems to me he's talking UP the Yen.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:05am Apr 13, 2015 9:05am
  •  Roachling
  • | Joined Jun 2014 | Status: Member | 21 Comments
Quoting dchristi
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Why would he be talking the yen down
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He isn't, he's trying to bring it up.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:05am Apr 13, 2015 9:05am
  •  kingofmicro
  • Joined Jul 2011 | Status: Member | 17 Comments
who care abe )) this is only stop hunt action. all yen cross up, coming soon
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:07am Apr 13, 2015 9:07am
  •  Guest
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Was that a green light for usd/yen to target 105 ?

GBP/JPY broke the 175.50 low, twice looks like 168 is on the cards now
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:09am Apr 13, 2015 9:09am
  •  justiniuxas
  • | Joined Oct 2014 | Status: Member | 82 Comments
jpy should go down to 125 at least, so now probably it has to go up a bit, and then we will se strong momentum up on usdjpy.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:20am Apr 13, 2015 9:20am
  •  dchristi
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 82 Comments
Quoting Ratmach
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"Why would he be talking the yen down"

Seems to me he's talking UP the Yen.
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You are absolutely right -- I meant to ask: why is he taking the $/Yen rate down?

A higher yen (lower $/Yen rate) is bad for exports, which are critical to the Japanese economy. It also weakens inflationary pressures, while a main policy goal of the Abe government is to increase inflation.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:25am Apr 13, 2015 9:25am
  •  Alexeii
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Oct 2012 | 592 Comments
Muahhahahahahahahahha POWER!!!
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:32am Apr 13, 2015 9:32am
  •  bobn
  • | Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Member | 141 Comments
He's just a dumb politician talking rubbish for a political audience. The Yen is being debased so must go down, the Jap Govt is bankrupt and a rising stockmarket due to QE doesnt necessarily lead to higher domestic spending. So buy the false dips.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:34am Apr 13, 2015 9:34am
  •  Alexeii
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Oct 2012 | 592 Comments
Adios - King Dollar
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:47am Apr 13, 2015 9:47am
  •  dchristi
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 82 Comments
Quoting bobn
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He's just a dumb politician talking rubbish for a political audience. The Yen is being debased so must go down, the Jap Govt is bankrupt and a rising stockmarket due to QE doesnt necessarily lead to higher domestic spending. So buy the false dips.
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I agree with this. Talk is cheap, and I don't see the Japanese government changing their policies anytime soon. **So far**, it looks like the market isn't buying all of this either.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:49am Apr 13, 2015 9:49am
  •  peacourt
  • | Joined Nov 2012 | Status: Member | 84 Comments
the dollar looks like it might have reached a peak high
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:52am Apr 13, 2015 9:52am
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Quoting dchristi
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You are absolutely right -- I meant to ask: why is he taking the $/Yen rate down?

A higher yen (lower $/Yen rate) is bad for exports, which are critical to the Japanese economy. It also weakens inflationary pressures, while a main policy goal of the Abe government is to increase inflation.
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Nowadays economy is not so simple at all.

When your currency is stronger, it means cheaper imports and remember Japan is an island with very little ressources.
They import a lot (energy, food...) and japanese companies also have a lot of oversea costs because not much is still build in Japan.
Also japan is a very old country, so for these old people a weaker currency is very bad.

Weakening JPY too fast could be Japan commiting suicide...it is a very dangerous move so maybe why he wants to halt it and observe how it turns out. If he wants to weaken it more he is not in a hurry anymore because they finally got able to weaken it after trying for year (if not a decade?)
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 10:03am Apr 13, 2015 10:03am
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Still don't forget markets are not rationnal, it took me years to understand it is stupid to try to understand everymove on the market.

Some moves makes no sense because people don't need a fundamental or a rationnal reason to buy or to sell !
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 10:23am Apr 13, 2015 10:23am
  •  Ojiego
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Some moves makes no sense because people don't need a fundamental or a rationnal reason to buy or to sell !
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When you write this, you have to consider the position of Market Makers or Smart Money I would call them. They are NEVER in agreement with retail traders or Dumb Money ('hate that but that's the way it is) and remember what J.M. Keynes said: " The market can remain longer irrational you can remain solvent"! Says it all. So, stop trying to make sense out of nonsense .... Lol, Trade-Mark that for me
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 10:54am Apr 13, 2015 10:54am
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It means FED needs to hold rates for more time!!
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 11:21am Apr 13, 2015 11:21am
  •  dchristi
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 82 Comments
Quoting Guest
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Nowadays economy is not so simple at all.

When your currency is stronger, it means cheaper imports and remember Japan is an island with very little ressources.
They import a lot (energy, food...) and japanese companies also have a lot of oversea costs because not much is still build in Japan.
Also japan is a very old country, so for these old people a weaker currency is very bad.

Weakening JPY too fast could be Japan commiting suicide...it is a very dangerous move so maybe why he wants to halt it and observe how it turns out. If he wants...
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Great points. You could also argue that, with a strengthening currency, if you can hold your prices steady in overseas markets, your domestic profitability will rise.

But, as you say, it's complicated. Higher prices in Japan for foreign goods promotes domestic replacements. So there can be a trade balance improvement. One of the components of GDP is Exports minus Imports, so (on paper at least) GDP rises as the trade balance improves.

It's not cut-and-dried. But overall, I believe that a country's overall trade competitiveness improves as their currency falls (and vice-versa, one of the problems for the U.S.).
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 11:36am Apr 13, 2015 11:36am
  •  wildbill2u
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: Member | 282 Comments
I'm awfully cynical when it comes to the Yen.

Why do some call the Yen trades "the widowmaker"? In my opinion the Yen is too susceptible to manipulation by the members of "Japan, Inc."

Would anyone care to bet whether he had bought a few trades shorting USD/Yen for himself? And told his buddies in banking, manufacturing, and government ahead of time so they could dip their beak too for a quick short term profit.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 1:23pm Apr 13, 2015 1:23pm
  •  Cnegt
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 10 Comments
The key is in the first sentence: BS Fuji TV.
BS???
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 3:42pm Apr 13, 2015 3:42pm
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This means the Abe government "wants to have the cake and eat it too!". They want the 2% inflation and not pissing off the Japanese people! Good luck!
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 3:44pm Apr 13, 2015 3:44pm
  •  Charlzz
  • | Joined Feb 2013 | Status: Member | 109 Comments
another old f prick which is serving friendly hedge fund... he f stopped nice up movement on USD/JPY... the economy would be much better without such an old puppet like him... and traders shouldn`t take so seriously such a talks... japan is in a deep a-hole for a loooooooongggg lonnggg time...
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 4:53pm Apr 13, 2015 4:53pm
  •  Pharm0r
  • Joined Apr 2013 | Status: I'm learnding! | 196 Comments
*Phone under table, takes short position*

"As I was saying, I believe the Yen is way over valued at the moment."

"Hold on- I have a call"

*Checks phone, closes position*

"I'm sorry, what was that? No I didnt say it was over valued. What are you talking about?"

*Goes to dealership, buys new car*
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 7:16pm Apr 13, 2015 7:16pm
  •  Dev0
  • | Additional Username | Joined Apr 2015 | 1 Comment
Wow why would Abe do that
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 7:33pm Apr 13, 2015 7:33pm
  •  roger44
  • Joined Sep 2014 | Status: Member | 614 Comments
Although I am not sure, I think maybe because it had the great number of tourists visiting Japan in the Easter holiday period (people need a huge amount of JPY).
And also face this USA company profit data week (he supposes USD will rise this week so need to do somethings to balance).
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2015 9:31pm Apr 13, 2015 9:31pm
  •  Patient1
  • | Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Member | 57 Comments
There is a chance, (like last October) they would like to push price down before announcing more QE. Their is a big world meeting on the 17th. Maybe getting the ok. Of course who really knows, but this was deliberate for sure and given that it undermines the whole QE motion, it makes me wonder.
 
 
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