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buy gold and take profit before fomc
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after FOMC meeting tomorrow gold in going down.....so careful to buy now
Trade your indicators not the news, if your indicators were of any value you would have bought and will know when to sell. The gold price is your most valuable indicator.
i think that's all 1.2990 & now we go down
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Per Draghi, growth risk still on the downside. Hey maybe if you add additional stimulus on top of LTRO1 and LTRO 2 growth will finally pick up . Fu_king moron.
the news is moving the market, not the indicators
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Quoting YMMgroup
i think that's all 1.2990 & now we go down

Is pulling back to make space to rise to 1,3040
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today reach 1.3040
tomorrow 1,3125
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if it's make pullback it's can be 1.2950 or 1.29
Quoting Danutz
the news is moving the market, not the indicators
Your indicators are based on what the market is doing, your indicators read the market and the market includes the news. What do you think the gold price is?
gold is doin nice..rejection is great
Early to bed, early to rise, keeps you healthy, wealthy and wise.
2nd big player sell -can it stop the daft rally

Darg-queen go for it - move the market like you never done before - go bazooka go.

I'm closing monitoring France situation while these crap about Spain continues. The moment France comes in. I'm all in with all bets! But until then buy and sell
Quoting Sassy2010
Your indicators are based on what the market is doing, your indicators read the market and the market includes the news. What do you think the gold price is?
Gold 1787
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Draghi must said something reasonable... its the first time in the last 3 month that the market is without big move within 20 minutes... Or he will start to talk now? :-))
ECB's Draghi: rescheduling Greek bonds would be monetary financing.
Don't PANIC wait!!!
Quoting jonahky7
2nd big player sell -can it stop the daft rally
more details ?
Quoting jonahky7
2nd big player sell -can it stop the daft rally
I'd still like to know where you get this information?

p.s. until the majority is bullish on Euro, it will continue to go up hitting the bears stoplosses. imho
Quoting xjames26
Draghi must said something reasonable... its the first time in the last 3 month that the market is without big move within 20 minutes... Or he will start to talk now? :-))
The question time will be of interests. Becos everyone is keen to bloody know what his bazooka is like and where HIS fking printing factory is based at!!!!!
Quoting Danutz
Gold 1787
You don't understand, the gold price is a critical indicator that you use to trade the market and the market includes the news. The news moves the market and it affects your indicators proving that you have indicators of value.
Quoting Tw0eleven
I'd still like to know where you get this information?
Good old forexlive n squawk!!!! Reported real money offer at .2980/90 area (take it with a pinch of salt).

1.30 was well protected by SNB in Dec/Jan this year. THere is a reason for that too now - to help peg their CHF Will it work - I don't know but I scalp at those levels with big lots
why fighting? some want to sell some want to buy, so who want to buy go for long and people want to sell go for short..... follow your expertise lol
if u try to pick highs or bottoms on this kind of market, youre out of the game. u cant stop a slingshot once its fired keep that in mind
Draghi: One of the conditions is the signed of a MOU with Eurogroup, FWIW, Spain already has one of them.
Quoting Dr.Zain
Don't PANIC wait!!!
for what ?
loadedgun where are you! please help those sellers!
Quoting Sassy2010
You don't understand, the gold price is a critical indicator that you use to trade the market and the market includes the news. The news moves the market and it affects your indicators proving that you have indicators of value.
I trade just eur/usd

Now BUY and even Gold Buy
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Bartsch: #ECB reiterates determination on OMT and singleness of monetary policy, but announces no tangible policy action on bond purchases.
Quoting jonahky7
Good old forexlive!!!!
not too familiar with that website, but looking at it...care to point me to the right page with the right information? PM me if you prefer.
Hope gold Down soon
My formula is always newtons 3rd law for every action there is opposite and equal reaction now a days it obeys well in the market So now if it goes up then at fomc blamm!!! it goes down
Gain or Lose there is always a winner named Market!!!
Draghi says ecb doesn't speculate on future rate changes
Quoting Danutz
I trade just eur/usd

Now BUY and even Gold Buy
Are you buying futures gold or at your forex broker??
Quoting Tw0eleven
not too familiar with that website, but looking at it...care to point me to the right page with the right information? PM me if you prefer.
Here you go, news way before everyone wakes up

http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/10/04/todays-orderboard-114/
In the forex market you fight for survivial and if you can help others to do the same you must oblige. In the legal world you can twist the law but not the facts, forex trading is factual, you win or you loose simple as that.
Quoting Sassy2010
Trade your indicators not the news, if your indicators were of any value you would have bought and will know when to sell. The gold price is your most valuable indicator.
You're funny.. trade the indicators hihi, you're right on the news though as of gold??? The only thing that works on the chart is the thing that works today, tomorrow yesterday and 100 years back (so no indi's). Now find out what worked at the time and today and your gold.
Quoting jonahky7
Here you go

http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/1...rderboard-114/
Thanks Bud...I tried Central Banks, Economy, Mrkt News, Mrkt Talk and skipped over Orders! haha
Quoting Vievy wu
Hope gold Down soon
I hope so too
Quoting Kingoffx
My formula is always newtons 3rd law for every action there is opposite and equal reaction now a days it obeys well in the market So now if it goes up then at fomc blamm!!! it goes down
Taoists realized this universal and fundamental philosophy (yin yang) EONS before Isaac Newton ever even walked the earth.
Quoting Tw0eleven
Thanks Bud...I tried Central Banks, Economy, Mrkt News, Mrkt Talk and skipped over Orders! haha
Yah if you have 20K to spare per month for inter-bank messages then you get up to date info. Poor suckers like me are just scrabbling for food under the table.

Bulls are aiming for .3030 and above
bears are aiming ??

In 5yrs time, you wont find EU anymore. Everytime you land in whichever country in the ex-EU, you will see Welcome to the BAIL-out lands - pay £50 to skip jail. Take the next card to Advance and pretend you don't have a debt - you get fking bln from the rest of the world!
Quoting Vievy wu
Hope gold Down soon
You missed it! nearly made 1795 then snapped down.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
Quoting kibescorp
Taoists realized this universal and fundamental philosophy (yin yang) EONS before Isaac Newton ever even walked the earth.
who ever it is found this law I salute that guy!!!
Gain or Lose there is always a winner named Market!!!
Quoting Tw0eleven
not too familiar with that website, but looking at it...care to point me to the right page with the right information? PM me if you prefer.
When I was a newbie I used it a lot along with dailyfx they are (with all due respect to JHK7) full of crap. You will find that your style is not suited to what they spew which is basically rumors - they flip from side to side per second. What they offer has never ever (I repeat) ever defined any trend. May be for scalpers but if you trade long to medium term (even say H4 intraday) you do not need them. I do not as much as look at their pages any more. Try them for a few days and let me know what you think - would like your opinion.

PS: If it is not rumors about some seller or buyer it is about some option expiry - all to no effect just spooks.
are majority stops sitting 15 pips above 1.3000 or even higher?
Quoting Sassy2010
forex trading is factual, you win or you loose simple as that.
But what about market manipulation? That's why I always stick with charts. Unless there's BIG fundamental news like this one (ECB cutting rates, changes in interest rates, etc.), I'm not going to bet on the news simply because of manipulation and false flag news.
Quoting YMMgroup
for what ?
Traders saying SELL and others saying BUY, wait, let the conference details emerge
Draghi says Spain has completed almost 90% of funding program.
ECB just buying time to it's real collapses
wait untill the ECB press is over , EUR will be down
Whats going on, market is stand still?
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Bulls are aiming for .3030 and above
bears are aiming ??

[quote]

This is a great comment....There are absolutely no Bears(no realy big money sellers that is). The Euro has just been supported ALL WEEK! You had a brief drop to 1.2800 on Sunday night(thin markets)...but when the real money came in, they rallied Euro up 134pips on Monday!!! THEN for 4 days price has not been able to close below 1.2875-80. It's tried 6 Times and it's bounced quickly up above 1.2900(typically to 1.2920). You don't need any NEWS to tell you what your charts already did!

It's only the majority of retail traders expecting the euro to go down...and we all know the majority of retail traders LOSE money!
Quoting Kingoffx
who ever it is found this law I salute that guy!!!
The way I see it, true philosophy must mirror and adhere to the laws of physics.

Physics is the practical, scientific application of the philosophies of the universe.

That said, the economic system ... especially that of the changing of currency values ... is a blatant example of this up-and-down, cyclical nature of the universe.

It is why currency trading (and investment in general) is generally reserved for the intelligent.

Still, simply understanding this fact doesn't make it any easier to anticipate WHEN a pair will turn around.
Iw was tempted to hang in there for a few more pips, but I just had a good run and closed with a nice profit :-
Let's wait and see what happens now.
ECB holds rate at 0.75% for third straight month?
We just hit ADR on the Euro - so some profit taking should start about now.
Following the announcement of the ECB`s rate decision for the month of October which include holding interest rate at its record low of 0.75%, ECB President Mario Draghi delivered his press conference.

He repeated that Draghi the euro is irreversible, which means the bank will do all necessary steps to save the euro, where the ECB will remain strictly within its mandate.
Quoting Loadedgun
We just hit ADR on the Euro - so some profit taking should start about now.
I've 1.3011 as first minimal resistance
SP500 => fk I was figuring y the hell it still not burst until I gone back to 4yrs back, that was the time when Obama took office Nov 2008 at its lowest and it's been popping up. Now I know why overvalued SP is still hanging there. FK y didn't I think of that.
Quoting kibescorp
The way I see it, true philosophy must mirror and adhere to the laws of physics.

Physics is the practical, scientific application of the philosophies of the universe.

That said, the economic system ... especially that of the changing of currency values ... is a blatant example of this up-and-down, cyclical nature of the universe.

It is why currency trading (and investment in general) is generally reserved for the intelligent.

Still, simply understanding this fact doesn't make it any easier to anticipate WHEN a pair will turn around.
You need discipline more than intelligence
Regarding growth prospects in the 17-nation region, Draghi says most recent indicators confirmed the weak activity in the third quarter, adding that the economy will remain weak in near term as Growth risks still on downside, where economic recovery will come gradually.
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You all are forgeting a very important factor here and that is the USD index that just broke down the bear flag to the downside so that says it all.
Draghi said the bank is ready to start its bond purchases as soon as all required conditions are met, referring that the OMT program is "a fully effective backstop to avoid destructive scenarios with potentially severe challenges for price stability in the euro area."

Time Buying tactics!!!
[quote=Tw0eleven;6069043][quote=jonahky7;6068994]
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Bulls are aiming for .3030 and above
bears are aiming ??

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This is a great comment....There are absolutely no Bears(no realy big money sellers that is). The Euro has just been supported ALL WEEK! You had a brief drop to 1.2800 on Sunday night(thin markets)...but when the real money came in, they rallied Euro up 134pips on Monday!!! THEN for 4 days price has not been able to close below 1.2875-80. It's tried 6 Times and it's bounced quickly up above 1.2900(typically to 1.2920). You don't need any NEWS...

at least someone with logic here...
Quoting Dr.Zain
Draghi said the bank is ready to start its bond purchases as soon as all required conditions are met, referring that the OMT program is "a fully effective backstop to avoid destructive scenarios with potentially severe challenges for price stability in the euro area."

Time Buying tactics!!!
He forgot to mention where his printing factory is!!!! That is a key thing coz he has not started printing real money yet!
Quoting Minotaur
You need discipline more than intelligence
Both are important, but the latter more so.

Moot point, as 99% of people lack both.
Quoting Loadedgun
When I was a newbie I used it a lot along with dailyfx they are (with all due respect to JHK7) full of crap. You will find that your style is not suited to what they spew which is basically rumors - they flip from side to side per second. What they offer has never ever (I repeat) ever defined any trend. May be for scalpers but if you trade long to medium term (even say H4 intraday) you do not need them. I do not as much as look at their pages any more. Try them for a few days and let me know what you think - would like your opinion.

PS: If it...
What you say is absolutely true. However to give some credit to them, at least they offer order tables - for traders who are doing day trades, its good enough many a times to use it ONLY for reference. Still rely heavily on my indicators. Like some say, treat it as noise but each noise can have good pips if one knows how to do noise cancellation
Quoting jonahky7
He forgot to mention where his printing factory is!!!! That is a key thing coz he has not started printing real money yet!
Jonahky by the way where is Printing press of EURO???
Whats going on, market is stand still?

Euro is so strong now and it will not down again, and if it down it will be only small correction ,

my eyes saw the uptrend 2 hit 1.3171 then 1.3250
It going to be sucide attempt if he tried to print money.Inflation is still above 2%.Can he think what will hapen if he print money?
Quoting jonahky7
He forgot to mention where his printing factory is!!!! That is a key thing coz he has not started printing real money yet!
“If you’re a passenger aboard a ship in deep water, you can’t detect a tsunami; the swells are indistinguishable from regular ocean waves. Wave lengths can be hundreds of miles long, but only when this energy reaches shallow water does the mammoth tsunami wall form – and can wash over anything in its path. So when forecasters warn “Move to higher ground!” it’s not wise to think, “Until I see the tsunami, I won’t believe it’s coming.” Once it’s visible, it’s probably too late. It’s equally unwise to ignore signs of a financial tsunami. Investors who wait … before acting will be too late. We have to anticipate developments, and the only way we can do that is to use tools that reveal signs of approaching trend change.”
-The Elliott Wave Theorist, March 2012
Watching the noobs and experts communicate is hilarious haha
Quoting skyboys007
It going to be sucide attempt if he tried to print money.Inflation is still above 2%.Can he think what will happen if he print money?
ECB sees that an inflation of 2.7% in the year ended in September is considered high, reflecting the rise in indirect taxes and energy prices.
You are absolutely right
Quoting Dr.Zain
Jonahky by the way where is Printing press of EURO???
That's what I'm interested to know.

Quoting skyboys007
It going to be sucide attempt if he tried to print money.Inflation is still above 2%.Can he think what will hapen if he print money?
hell break loose but these twats have no concern about the world as long they can keep hold of their positions.
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[quote=kibescorp;6069055]The way I see it, true philosophy must mirror and adhere to the laws of physics.

Physics is the practical, scientific application of the philosophies of the universe.

That said, the economic system ... especially that of the changing of currency values ... is a blatant example of this up-and-down, cyclical nature of the universe.

What Y say is absolutely true otherwise no movement would ever happen....
the sad truth is also that that knowledge has no practicality in trading for no one knows when the market will turn, how for the turn will be and with how much force. true, basically but not practical.
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Quoting Guest
after FOMC meeting tomorrow gold in going down.....so careful to buy now
I agree.

Gold daily chart = RSI(14) Bearish Divergence, probably goes down.

Silver daily chart = RSI(14) Bearish Divergence, prolably goes down too.
Show over, move on to FOMC tonight. Cheerio!
Quoting Guest
I agree.

Gold daily chart = RSI(14) Bearish Divergence, probably goes down.

Silver daily chart = RSI(14) Bearish Divergence, prolably goes down too.
not only daily,but also hourly gold bearish divergence
Quoting jonahky7
Show over, move on to FOMC tonight. Cheerio!
Please Explain ! What do you expect from FOMC Minutes? Rally or ???
Quoting Dr.Zain
Please Explain ! What do you expect from FOMC Minutes? Rally or ???
To be honest, nothing IMHO - consolidation probably. No show at all

SP500 stalled at R3 1462.4, where I scalped EUR/USD short big lots.

Forgot to mention I still have my longs from last night.
Quoting kibescorp
The way I see it, true philosophy must mirror and adhere to the laws of physics.

Physics is the practical, scientific application of the philosophies of the universe.

That said, the economic system ... especially that of the changing of currency values ... is a blatant example of this up-and-down, cyclical nature of the universe.

It is why currency trading (and investment in general) is generally reserved for the intelligent.

Still, simply understanding this fact doesn't make it any easier to anticipate WHEN a pair will turn around.
I totally disagree with this since it is called as a universal law it acts very well on all aspects it doesn't means whether financial instruments or physical objects all acts on the manner of action and reaction may be in forex and stocks the process may be quite bit difficult to understand but when look closely in indicators like Elliot wave ,RSI stochastic etc suggest the same
Gain or Lose there is always a winner named Market!!!
Quoting jonahky7
To be honest, nothing IMHO - consolidation probably. No show at all

SP500 stalled at R3 1462.4, where I scalped EUR/USD short big lots.

Forgot to mention I still have my longs from last night.
You denied it before, but I KNEW IT...you're a hedger!

Lucky man, can't do that here in the US anymore!
Tomorrow is a big news day.
I anticipate EUR and GBP to drop at week close and continue dropping through the next week. That's just me.
I see a lot of Bear' stops hit, but rally is full of EUR hot air. Volume is not supporting this rally against USD.
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Quoting Tw0eleven
You denied it before, but I KNEW IT...you're a hedger!

Lucky man, can't do that here in the US anymore!
Never deny anything before I said I buy n sell though I never say I buy n sell at the same day at different time
Quoting jonahky7
Never deny anything before I said I buy n sell though I never say I buy n sell at the same day at different time
Now I'm confused...if you are still holding longs, yet you also scalped some short trades (while holding longs)...then that is using hedging. Or do you have two separate accounts?
Quoting Kingoffx
I totally disagree with this since it is called as a universal law it acts very well on all aspects it doesn't means whether financial instruments or physical objects all acts on the manner of action and reaction may be in forex and stocks the process may be quite bit difficult to understand but when look closely in indicators like Elliot wave ,RSI stochastic etc suggest the same
Newton third law says F12 = -F21
If that was a universal(and not human experience) law everything had to range within unbreakable boundaries but is not happening due to rest(first law) relativity and non existent time frame boundaries. Therefore it works well AFTER you find out if and where there was opposition of the force and safely say if velocity was zero or non zero.
As for indis, wide ones don't tell much and narrow tell too many.

For Philosophy, Physics, Cosmos, Mathematics instead for Illuminated such as DaVinci, Gallileo, Copernicus, Newton try 2-2.5 millenia back for the term founders such as Aristotle, Hipparchus, Pythagoras, Archimedes etc.
Their views apply the same to dropping apples, CERN spins and of course Market movements.

For example traders SHOULD find useful the Aristotle's approach for motion to find reasoning behind price action REAL fundamentals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiality_and_actuality
Don't Fight Forces, Use Them.
Quoting Tw0eleven
Now I'm confused...if you are still holding longs, yet you also scalped some short trades (while holding longs)...then that is using hedging. Or do you have two separate accounts?
It's legal in UK buddy!
Quoting jonahky7
It's legal in UK buddy!
Exactly...you're a lucky man.
"Newton third law says F12 = -F21" Are you sure in the right forum?
Quoting frx_trader
"Newton third law says F12 = -F21" Are you sure in the right forum?
I was commenting to previous comments on the subject.

Are you sure you're not using Physics when you trade?

Even if you just flip a coin as your only indicator and not using fibonacci, elliot, fractals etc you still use Physics that affect your trading decisions not to mention that what you gamble moves by Physics.

After this you still believe I'm in the wrong forum and not you?
Don't Fight Forces, Use Them.
Quoting Timetraveler
I was commenting to previous comments on the subject.

Are you sure you're not using Physics when you trade?

Even if you just flip a coin as your only indicator and not using fibonacci, elliot, fractals etc you still use Physics that affect your trading decisions not to mention that what you gamble moves by Physics.

After this you still believe I'm in the wrong forum and not you?
Thanks for the enlightment. I don't know. I use my eyes to see charts and I see red and blue candles.

Take it easy, I was joking. I like Physics.
Quoting frx_trader
Thanks for the enlightment. I don't know. I use my eyes to see charts and I see red and blue candles.

Take it easy, I was joking. I like Physics.
If you use only your eyes then you have to change color to the blue ones and make them green with a dim background color(white<50%) to avoid hurting in the long term your main trading weapon from high contrast.

Physics=>Optics tells us that Red and Blue are on the opposite sides of spectrum while Green is on the middle(that's why monitor settings say RGB)

I'm cool. Best of trades.
Don't Fight Forces, Use Them.
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sell gold
silver is showing resilience and not going down. It should bounce back.
what about Gold?? how much it will go down today?? n e idea?
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