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  • The final death throes of the euro

    From telegraph.co.uk

    The euro crisis is entering its final stages. Economic pain is now interacting with political resistance to produce intense financial pressure. I expect Greece to leave the euro – and perhaps very soon. It could happen voluntarily, but both the Greek people and Greek politicians are still clinging to the idea that they can put an end to austerity yet still stay in the euro. In order to try to achieve that, a new government may call the eurozone's bluff. At that point, the other eurozone members would face an awkward choice. Doubtless there would be voices in favour of providing the money, willy nilly. That might ... (full story)

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  • May 13, 2012 11:54pm May 13, 2012 11:54pm
  •  rankinchopra
  • | Joined Dec 2010 | Status: Member | 54 Comments
can please update here - whether this event greece will be out of euro -- will make aususd long or short
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:24am May 14, 2012 12:24am
  •  Balasubraman
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Junior Member | 2 Comments
can anybody advise about gold today?
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:37am May 14, 2012 12:37am
  •  ttolman
  • | Joined Nov 2010 | Status: Member | 58 Comments
Buy a years supply of food and water and sit tight.
pipdaddy
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:38am May 14, 2012 12:38am
  •  Forexpreneur
  • | Joined Aug 2008 | Status: Always a student | 2 Comments
@rankinchopra the AUD is still considered a risk currency, or speculation currency when the world economy gets nervous. It's more in depth than that, but that is the simplest explanation.

So if Greece exited the Euro and the markets got anxious it would be wise to short the audusd for some time. Just be sure to watch the charts for key areas of support and resistence as usual.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:56am May 14, 2012 12:56am
  •  Amanda2
  • | Joined May 2010 | Status: Member | 117 Comments
If I have a pip everytime I read an article in the past 4 years that says the Euro is on its deathbed, I would have enough to buy a yacht by now. When something is in its death throes for so long, one can logically conclude that this may actually be its natural living state.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 1:16am May 14, 2012 1:16am
  •  driesinf
  • | Joined Sep 2010 | Status: Junior Member | 2 Comments
i am bullish on Eurusd, audusd and gold...
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 1:37am May 14, 2012 1:37am
  •  Fjw
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 7 Comments
This week the possibility of a turning point for the bullish I think
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 2:04am May 14, 2012 2:04am
  •  pemully
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: riding the lightning | 74 Comments
nah....Greek exit and a few others will only strengthen the euro in the long run...I believe that's what soros is thinking though he will no say it.
wo-yoy! wo-yoy! wo-yoy! wo-yoi! wo-yoy-yoy-yoy!
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 2:09am May 14, 2012 2:09am
  •  manahil
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2012 | 187 Comments
if Greece out then i thought Euro bearish for long time...1.2100...
>>>>>>>>BULL<<<<<<<<<
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 2:26am May 14, 2012 2:26am
  •  manahil
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2012 | 187 Comments
Based on the charts and explanations above our opinion is, selling the pair around 1.2935 targeting 1.2730 and stop loss above 1.3070 might be appropriate.
>>>>>>>>BULL<<<<<<<<<
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 2:59am May 14, 2012 2:59am
  •  pip_trader
  • | Commercial Member | Joined May 2012 | 136 Comments
The exit of Greece (maybe even Spain) would have bearish effects against the Euro. An estimated 270 million Euros worth of debt would be forced upon the Eurozone if Greece left - that would not bode well, at least in the short-term. I read that nearly 50 percent of the EU is in recession, and Germany seems to be the lone wolf. Interestingly enough, I heard that if the Euro was solely pegged to Germany it would be worth double than what it is currently and declining. Unless the 8 or 9 recession-baring countries leave the EU all together, I see the Euro grinding lower with volatility. Current targets suggest 1.27 and as low as 1.24.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 3:05am May 14, 2012 3:05am
  •  Alan5616
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 94 Comments
Quoting Amanda2
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If I have a pip everytime I read an article in the past 4 years that says the Euro is on its deathbed, I would have enough to buy a yacht by now. When something is in its death throes for so long, one can logically conclude that this may actually be its natural living state.
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This time, the Euro is in intensive care and has little chance of survival. There is worse to come with Spain and Portugal teetering on the brink of collapse.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 3:58am May 14, 2012 3:58am
  •  HassanAhmad
  • | Joined Sep 2011 | Status: Member | 29 Comments
Hahahahaha. deputy prime minister warns "Greece will run out of money soon", interviewing Daily Telegraph, where as I think he was willing to say changing words a little bit,
"Greece will run out of EURO soon", and the result is not too far away as they are not going on to pay thier loans to ECB/IMF or others.
On other hand, "Greece's EUR Exit Will Cost Euro-zone Countries €276 Billion". Thrilling position and a horror filmatic situation for economists of Euro Zone.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 4:36am May 14, 2012 4:36am
  •  zamri
  • | Joined Nov 2011 | Status: Member | 11 Comments
target at 1.26
Bull chaser.......Bulldog & Bulldozer.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 4:56am May 14, 2012 4:56am
  •  Fibonaccifx
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 14 Comments
war?
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 4:56am May 14, 2012 4:56am
  •  koi99
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Member | 2 Comments
What kind of headline is that, "The Final Death". Are we in the way to world war dooms day?
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 6:19am May 14, 2012 6:19am
  •  allperformer
  • | Joined Jan 2010 | Status: Member | 20 Comments
i'm short EUR/USD but there's always a last minute deal which seems to come out of the woodwork. In theory waiting for NY to kick into action and hoping EUR gets slammed because even now - EUR is way, way overvalued. Europe trade session being very generous.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 6:29am May 14, 2012 6:29am
  •  joancb
  • Joined Aug 2011 | Status: Member | 310 Comments
If Greece leaves EUR everything will remain the same, somebody will win somebody else will lose.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 6:31am May 14, 2012 6:31am
  •  Fidza
  • | Joined Nov 2011 | Status: Member | 208 Comments
Quoting koi99
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What kind of headline is that, "The Final Death". Are we in the way to world war dooms day?
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The kind of headline you would expect from a newspaper operating at a time of a banana shortage crisis ,when all their writers are monkeys frantically printing utter BS away in the hope of getting their 5 a day in banana portions as compensation for their efforts.

I wonder if it has occurred to any of them that in the event of the Euro losing significant value(which I doubt ,regardless of how bad Greece gets ),that it would actually make the Euro zone more competitive ,and thus work out positive in the middle to long term.
Officer ... I swear to drunk I am not God
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 6:47am May 14, 2012 6:47am
  •  Cliff Wachtel
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jun 2009 | 188 Comments
Regardless of what happens, ECB to be printing money, probably Fed & other central banks as they'll be asked to help aid EU
key lesson, all need to diversify into multiple currencies. Best guide for lower risk, simpler ways to do that suitable for most risk averse, mainstream investors and traders I've seen is The Sensible Guide to Forex, see: www.wiley.com/buy/9781118158074 for description. Shows multiple ways to protect yourself against the silent tax of currency devaluation
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 7:11am May 14, 2012 7:11am
  •  jaygee
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Jul 2010 | 2713 Comments
add to eur/usd long 1.2870 2x
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 8:34am May 14, 2012 8:34am
  •  jaygee
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Jul 2010 | 2713 Comments
add to eur/usd long 2840 2x
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 8:51am May 14, 2012 8:51am
  •  Exodus
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: checkout the weblink | 4720 Comments
Quoting jaygee
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add to eur/usd long 2840 2x
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I think you are a bit optimistic, the weekly chart shows support likely at ~1.2625; and if that fails it might bounce at 1.2500. Today I decided to sit out the short I should have taken. Damn! missed out on 30 pips.


Quoting Amanda2
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If I have a pip everytime I read an article in the past 4 years that says the Euro is on its deathbed, I would have enough to buy a yacht by now. ...
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..and if I had a pip for every leading comment that goes "...does this mean oil will be more or less slippery ? " then I would join you using my sea-plane!
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 10:27am May 14, 2012 10:27am
  •  jonahky7
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Aug 2011 | 4530 Comments
Let's see if 1.2850 the taunted barrier option will become the next resistance line in 2-3hours.

ECB not buying bonds for 9th consecutive weeks, BIS not in action, nor any other big players bidding too.

Situation is bad - but heyho as it goes parasite will come back again when and IF Greece issue is over!!!!

Bloody good thing I'm not into stocks - 8% wept off UK shares today becos of fking Greece!
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 10:47am May 14, 2012 10:47am
  •  jonahky7
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Aug 2011 | 4530 Comments
Quoting Exodus
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I think you are a bit optimistic, the weekly chart shows support likely at ~1.2625; and if that fails it might bounce at 1.2500. Today I decided to sit out the short I should have taken. Damn! missed out on 30 pips.
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Huhh lol...........you have a very big gap from 1.2836 to 1.2625 - wow!!!! Who will be trading there? There are still supports along the way before .26 buddy - so don't predict just trade accordingly buddy.

Who says we can't buy - I bought at .2827 x10 and close at .2840 for a 130pips equivalent profit. Y I bought at that level? 1.282/33 used to be a very strong support and battle ground before it goes down. So there are always good places to buy while you sell buddy.

Trade with the market and don't dream anything else matey. Don't tell me you won't be trading until 1.2625??
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 11:09am May 14, 2012 11:09am
  •  Exodus
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: checkout the weblink | 4720 Comments
Hey! Just woken up? :thumbs:

Quoting jonahky7
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Huhh lol...........you have a very big gap from 1.2836 to 1.2625 - wow!!!! Who will be trading there? There are still supports along the way before .26 buddy - so don't predict just trade accordingly buddy.

Who says we can't buy - I bought at .2827 x10 and close at .2840 for a 130pips equivalent profit. Y I bought at that level? 1.282/33 used to be a very strong support and battle ground before it goes down. So there are always good places to buy while you sell buddy.

Trade with the market and don't dream anything else matey. Don't tell me...
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No, I won't tell you that, but I did decide not to short at the relevant time, only to under-estimate the strength of feeling over Greece and etc.

I'm glad you made a few pips in the long direction. You just can't beat living dangerously
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 11:29am May 14, 2012 11:29am
  •  jonahky7
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Aug 2011 | 4530 Comments
That's the game of forex, if you know where and when to trade - you get the pips, otherwise you will be sitting on the sideline wishing u had gone into a trade and won.

The rules for the RS lines are closely knitted, so if you know where they are - you are more than half way there buddy.

I can backtrace and come out with all the crap reasons why it rises or sinks but its a question do you dare to jump onto the rail and brave against the coming train??????
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:08pm May 14, 2012 12:08pm
  •  Exodus
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: checkout the weblink | 4720 Comments
Some days I remember the blisters on my fingers.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:27pm May 14, 2012 12:27pm
  •  jjibl
  • | Joined Sep 2007 | Status: Member | 6 Comments
I think that Greece will not leave the euro because the French and German banks would go bankrupt...
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 12:40pm May 14, 2012 12:40pm
  •  jonahky7
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Aug 2011 | 4530 Comments
Quoting Exodus
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Some days I remember the blisters on my fingers.
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I had my 38pips lost in the land of 1.296 few months back but it's now all revenged for - manyfolds.

It's still good time to trade (ie short) buddy, just watch out what Hollande and Merkel will fart tomorrow. At the same time, there will be good time to long.

2 talked about option barriers had been broken within a week, so there will be more talks of barrier options just to keep us retail traders away - so trade when the market move
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 3:36pm May 14, 2012 3:36pm
  •  Guest
  • | IP XX.XX.152.101
What's the big deal about Greece leaving? It's like opening a window and letting a fly out of your house.
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 4:59pm May 14, 2012 4:59pm
  •  jonahky7
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Aug 2011 | 4530 Comments
N letting a swamp of wasps to invade your house - that's the situation with lala land euro
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 5:16pm May 14, 2012 5:16pm
  •  Exodus
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: checkout the weblink | 4720 Comments
I just read that Greece has some bond redemptions tomorrow and may not have the cash to cover them. Moodys downgrades Italian banks - it's going to be interesting
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
 
 
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  • May 14, 2012 7:46pm May 14, 2012 7:46pm
  •  Silencer
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 12 Comments
this may be the end of the euro
 
 
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  • May 15, 2012 6:12am May 15, 2012 6:12am
  •  Exodus
  • Joined May 2012 | Status: checkout the weblink | 4720 Comments
Greece sold ~1.4bn 3-month bills today @ 4.3%. Also there are two banks airing the possibility that bearish momentum in Eur is waning.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
 
 
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  • May 15, 2012 6:14am May 15, 2012 6:14am
  •  Guest
  • | IP XX.XX.218.10
gold will become on 1510 very soon.....
 
 
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  • May 15, 2012 6:47am May 15, 2012 6:47am
  •  Guest
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Gold will go down with the euro, then rocket up in the final throws. There is not enough volume in the paper precious markets at the moment, its too small and the physical market is pathetically small. Wait until the big players ditch the euro one weekend, thats when the fun will start.
 
 
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