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  • Turkey will vote against Sweden and Finland’s request to join NATO, Erdogan says

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putins s buddy not surprised
Easy solution : Kick Turkey out, they don't belong in NATO to begin with.
Well, if Turkey says no, then that's it! By the way, what does Turkey have to offer the group anyway? At least Sweden has the Swedish Bikini Team. The Turkish Bihka Squad? I don't think so. Screw Turkey. Let Sweden in!
It will get sorted out and it will happen. You think Erdogan cant be persuaded its in his best interests?
It will happen. Even if it requires a series of separate Bilateral Defense treaties?
Its not just the Russian land border face-off Finland and Swedens accession creates.. its the fact that the Baltic will become a NATO Pond, and the only un-choked western naval route is now the Barents.
This is just a political game from Erdogan. He wants something from Europe in order to vote for Sweden and Finland NATO membership. A little more intense diplomacy and everything will be alright.
This point of no return for Sweden and Finland. They will be NATO members at any cost.
To be honest, NATO only serves USA.. This sinister organization was always a burden for Turkey and my personal wish is for my country to quit NATO asap... Enough of constantly being belittled, disrespected, betrayed and used by USA and Europe... That said, by voting against Sweden and Finland, Turkey is actually doing these two countries a great favor. Oh, I wish these two actually would join the NATO just so that they can witness how much damage it would give them in the next 5 years BUT I am not a bitter person who wrongfully would want the worst for others... No that's not me.. I want that every European country starts to realize that the future is EURASIA.. A world where EURASIA unites and stops giving a rats sh*t to what corrupt and stinky USA politicians dictate. That's where good things would begin to bloom.
Quoting NotAtrader
This is just a political game from Erdogan. He wants something from Europe in order to vote for Sweden and Finland NATO membership. A little more intense diplomacy and everything will be alright. This point of no return for Sweden and Finland. They will be NATO members at any cost.
Greece is at last at a good state of being able to defend itself (and EU borders) from this bastard's ottoman dreams.
Tomorrow the Greek prime Minister is addressing the US congress, by the way.
So Erdogan is trying to get some negotiating leverage for upgrading his F16 fleet, and possibly get back in the F35 program from which he was kicked out.
Most Turkish citizens are probably against him (I got several friends from Turkey actually) , but being a Sultan he will drag them down with him....
It is funny when I read all the comments. I really think about how brainwashed are the Western world.
We have now 17th May. On 15th May some of the Ukraine forces (Azove Batt.) waved the white flag and surrender from the Azov steel plant. Including 4 Stars General from the U.S. and also a Major from the UK and several high rankings from the Nato. However, in western media like CNN BBC, etc. are not publishing it.

All the lies from the West will soon be revealed. Enjoy it.
And the BIO Labs story also coming soon.
FAKE NEWS, cos Turkey will not veto. SWE&FIN will join even before July.
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Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
To be honest, NATO only serves USA.. This sinister organization was always a burden for Turkey and my personal wish is for my country to quit NATO asap... Enough of constantly being belittled, disrespected, betrayed and used by USA and Europe... That said, by voting against Sweden and Finland, Turkey is actually doing these two countries a great favor. Oh, I wish these two actually would join the NATO just so that they can witness how much damage it would give them in the next 5 years BUT I am not a bitter person who wrongfully would want the worst...
Im sure you're a nice guy but Im puzzled about your perceptions of the lessons of post war 20th C history here. Remember the Straights Crisis? Stalin's Soviet land grab on Georgian border?, and Molotovs ambitions to engineer a Regime Overthrow o the Turkish state? Remember that joining NATO saved The Republic in 1952, and thanks to the Trueman Doctrine.. Turkey and Greece retained their sovereignty, and avoided becoming vassals of the USSR during the ensuing Cold War? (Molotov withdrew claims for joint control of the Bosphorus a year later.)
I understand your views in the context of the last decades, with frictions about the Iraq war 2/ the Armenian genocide issue Kurdish question. I see that PEW research recorded very negative US perceptions as lately as 2019, with 73% of Turks declaring a negative view of the United States, with only 20% having a positive view,.
The same study also showed only 11% of Turks had confidence in the US leader at the time of the survey, President Donald Trump, with 84% having no confidence in him. But then you had a lot of company in that view, particularly among your western European neighbors. A similar poll in EU revealed that only 5% trusted the Donald. .

But while you speak about the future being EURASIA, remember with further expansion in West (EU) denied Putin, East is where hes going to next focus of his USSR 2.0 expansionist ambitions. And that will put Stalins unfinished business in the the Dardanelles and Bosphorus back in the frame. Turkey might be still best sticking with their EU NATO "friends".. ?
The land was stolen.

Everyone silence.

Just Hypocrite.

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Quoting hkg_paul
It is funny when I read all the comments. I really think about how brainwashed are the Western world. We have now 17th May. On 15th May some of the Ukraine forces (Azove Batt.) waved the white flag and surrender from the Azov steel plant. Including 4 Stars General from the U.S. and also a Major from the UK and several high rankings from the Nato. However, in western media like CNN BBC, etc. are not publishing it. All the lies from the West will soon be revealed. Enjoy it. And the BIO Labs story also coming soon.
Man you want to stay off that FSB/Kremlin KoolAid
The white flags were of Truce.. not surrender. and were to allow evacuation of the seriously wounded. (Article 6 of the Geneva Convention) and civilians.(Rule 24 Geneva Convention.) Firing on civilians -seriously wounded, and Medics are serious War Crimes.
So provide your VK/OKSource Links for the rest?
or did you just see it on TikTok
Kick that blackmailing Sultan out and bring in Israel. Israel has integrity., Turkey has none. Let Turkey face Moscow on it's own.
Quoting mallee
Kick that blackmailing Sultan out and bring in Israel. Israel has integrity., Turkey has none. Let Turkey face Moscow on it's own.
One faulty out. Three working in. Not a bad equation.
Hotel California for Finland, especially for Sweden.
Once in, it cannot claim to be a neutral country later.
Quoting hkg_paul
It is funny when I read all the comments. I really think about how brainwashed are the ....it. And the BIO Labs story also coming soon.
Very few here have watched the UN Security Council meeting Emergency session by Russia last week where they presented their facts on the ground while the US kept on refuting without presenting any facts to support it.
The sheep will always yell MISINFORMATION!...Putin's agent!!....if info is not coming from the tits of their MSM masters.
Quoting hkg_paul
It is funny when I read all the comments. I really think about how brainwashed are the Western world. We have now 17th May. On 15th May some of the Ukraine forces (Azove Batt.) waved the white flag and surrender from the Azov steel plant. Including 4 Stars General from the U.S. and also a Major from the UK and several high rankings from the Nato. However, in western media like CNN BBC, etc. are not publishing it. All the lies from the West will soon be revealed. Enjoy it. And the BIO Labs story also coming soon.
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
To be honest, NATO only serves USA.. This sinister organization was always a burden for Turkey and my personal wish is for my country to quit NATO asap... Enough of constantly being belittled, disrespected, betrayed and used by USA and Europe... That said, by voting against Sweden and Finland, Turkey is actually doing these two countries a great favor. Oh, I wish these two actually would join the NATO just so that they can witness how much damage it would give them in the next 5 years BUT I am not a bitter person who wrongfully would want the worst...
perinçek beyinli
Quoting ilhaner
{quote} perinçek beyinli
Haklısın, Perinçek biraz aşırı uçta ve bazı düşüncelerine katılmakla birlikte tümüyle benimseyemem.. Sonuçta adam komünizm köklerinden geliyor.. ben "Asya"'cıyım.. Rusya ve Çin de çok umurumda değil AMA açgözlü batı zihniyetinden bin kat daha iyi bu ülkeler.. Sorunlarımız olmaz mı? Tabii ki olur.. Ama ben en önce komşularımla iyi geçinmem lazım.. Onları sürekli kışkırtanlarla değil.. "Hep bana hep bana" anlayışındaki zihniyet ki aslında sadece batının zihniyeti de değil bu, kendi içimizde de bir sürü çürük elma var, benim dost göreceğim taraflar olmadı, olamaz.. Kur'an anlayışım (bak. Hakkı Yılmaz) bu zihniyetin karşısında.. Aklım ve mantığım bu zihniyetin karşısında.. Bilim temelli göstergeler bu zihniyetin karşısında.. Bencilliğin ve ganimetçiliğin, sömürgeciliğin ve kabadayılığın kimseye faydası yok. Gelecek Avrasya olmasa bile "Asya" olacaktır.. Ama umulur ki Avrupa da aklını başına devşirir ve bize katılır. Nokta!
information warfare everywhere nowadays...
people loosing their heads, choosing sides instead of choosing FACTS.
meanwhile some facts to swallow hard..
USOIL and UKOIL both at 114.
USDRUS at 64-73.
Russia is still winning
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} Haklısın, Perinçek biraz aşırı uçta ve bazı düşüncelerine katılmakla birlikte tümüyle benimseyemem.. Sonuçta adam komünizm köklerinden geliyor.. ben "Asya"'cıyım.. Rusya ve Çin de çok umurumda değil AMA açgözlü batı zihniyetinden bin kat daha iyi bu ülkeler.. Sorunlarımız olmaz mı? Tabii ki olur.. Ama ben en önce komşularımla iyi geçinmem lazım.. Onları sürekli kışkırtanlarla değil.. "Hep bana hep bana" anlayışındaki...
2017 referandumundan hemen önce, propaganda için Almanya ve Hollanda'ya zorla bakan sokmaya çalışıp bakanlarını kapıdan kovdurtan, hemen akabinde en büyük ticaret partnerlerimiz hakkında "N*zi artığı" gibi beyanlarda bulunup, uluslararası ilişkileri iç siyasete meze eden bir akıl yönetiyor Türkiye'yi. Birkaç milyar dolar için orman yakıyor, havaalanlarını tahrip ediyor, şehrin ortasında kanal açmaya çalışıp Araplar'a pazarlıyor. Bu akıldan kurtulmadığımız sürece ülkemiz huzur bulamayacak.

Ganimetçilik, akıldan sapma deyince akla ilk gelen şey Kuran'dır. Kuran bilimi rehber alıyor sanrısına kapılmayın. Kuran - akıl ilişkisini merak ediyorsanız dinleyin

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Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
To be honest, NATO only serves USA.. This sinister organization was always a burden for Turkey and my personal wish is for my country to quit NATO asap... Enough of constantly being belittled, disrespected, betrayed and used by USA and Europe... That said, by voting against Sweden and Finland, Turkey is actually doing these two countries a great favor. Oh, I wish these two actually would join the NATO just so that they can witness how much damage it would give them in the next 5 years BUT I am not a bitter person who wrongfully would want the worst...
There is that time Turkey shot down a russian jet crossing its airspace in the fight against ISIS.
NATO told Turkey you are on your own or something similar.
Quoting hkg_paul
It is funny when I read all the comments. I really think about how brainwashed are the Western world. Enjoy it. And the BIO Labs story also coming soon.

Won't be surprised if US starts worrying about human rights in turkey soon .

Wink, wink.......... ................
Can some tell what just happen to EURUSD? as it raised to 1.0520 (what is the technical or fundamental reason behind it?)
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Quoting gettop
Can some tell what just happen to EURUSD? as it raised to 1.0520 (what is the technical or fundamental reason behind it?)

EUR lifted and Bunds dented in wake of ECB's hawk-Knot mentioning a 50bp move

The remark which lifted EUR/USD above 1.05, sent DXY to fresh session lows and the Bund below 153.00; USTs drifting in sympathy
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Man you want to stay off that FSB/Kremlin KoolAid The white flags were of Truce.. not surrender. and were to allow evacuation of the seriously wounded. (Article 6 of the Geneva Convention) and civilians.(Rule 24 Geneva Convention.) Firing on civilians -seriously wounded, and Medics are serious War Crimes. So provide your VK/OKSource Links for the rest? or did you just see it on TikTok
here is a link acceptable on FF. Keyword is "surrendered".
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/l...-lengthy-siege
@ mallee, whatever integrity you think Israel had was lost a long, long time ago.....
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Man you want to stay off that FSB/Kremlin KoolAid The white flags were of Truce.. not surrender. and were to allow evacuation of the seriously wounded. (Article 6 of the Geneva Convention) and civilians.(Rule 24 Geneva Convention.) Firing on civilians -seriously wounded, and Medics are serious War Crimes. So provide your VK/OKSource Links for the rest? or did you just see it on TikTok
It gets better!!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ender-azovstal
Quoting NotAtrader
This is just a political game from Erdogan. He wants something from Europe in order to vote for Sweden and Finland NATO membership. A little more intense diplomacy and everything will be alright. This point of no return for Sweden and Finland. They will be NATO members at any cost.
The cost?
Plot thickens.....
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...terrorist-orgs
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Man you want to stay off that FSB/Kremlin KoolAid The white flags were of Truce.. not surrender. and were to allow evacuation of the seriously wounded. (Article 6 of the Geneva Convention) and civilians.(Rule 24 Geneva Convention.) Firing on civilians -seriously wounded, and Medics are serious War Crimes. So provide your VK/OKSource Links for the rest? or did you just see it on TikTok
Hey Ross, I guess you should consider drinking that KoolAid....
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...source=twitter
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