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If this is true, it was only a matter of time before it happened...they are allies...I want to see what China will demand in return...maybe support to invade Taiwan.
World war 3 gets closer everyday
Quoting moisesfx7
If this is true, it was only a matter of time before it happened...they are allies...I want to see what China will demand in return...maybe support to invade Taiwan.
Why would China need support to invade Taiwan, they can do it anytime.

But here is one interesting thing - Russia and China prove to be real allies and they support each other without telling one another what to do and dragging each other into unwanted rivalry against others or against each other, while US drags every NATO member, without asking them, into every conflict they created and continue creating, US tells them what to do.
one step to WW3!
Would be a huge miscalculation for china.
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Quoting ravenbg
{quote} Why would China need support to invade Taiwan, they can do it anytime. But here is one interesting thing - Russia and China prove to be real allies and they support each other without telling one another what to do and dragging each other into unwanted rivalry against others or against each other, while US drags every NATO member, without asking them, into every conflict they created and continue creating, US tells them what to do.
That's why, because they are allies... not that China needs help from Russia, but precisely to support each other.

I found what you said interesting: the United States is using NATO as a shield in this war... and I think that this will have serious consequences.
Russia probably concerned they cannot fully capture Ukraine, and more probable they will lose areas previously captured.
Quoting hosemaster
Russia probably concerned they cannot fully capture Ukraine, and more probable they will lose areas previously captured.
I doubt. There is psychological factor in war and it is taking place now. Zelensky and his foreign minister sound very determined to their statements, but it does not look like they can stick to it for a very long time.
I guess Zelensky is waiting on some intel, could be the same for Russia.
Sadly, too much false news on the internet which I consider very dangerous since ppl are easily manipulated and may drive tension to higher levels.
Quoting ravenbg
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Your explanation is very good: the west has always been led to believe that the United States wants world peace and when it intervenes it is for the good of the one being subjugated. But, as you said, we have seen that it is not so... with Ukraine they will do the same thing.
Quoting ravenbg
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Bullshit
Quoting moisesfx7
{quote} Your explanation is very good: the west has always been led to believe that the United States wants world peace and when it intervenes it is for the good of the one being subjugated. But, as you said, we have seen that it is not so... with Ukraine they will do the same thing.
Absolutely, the difference this time it is on European continent and there is much more attentions as there will be economical consequences for Western countries which is another prove of discrimination towards those living in poverty.

Something else which might look as a side information, but it is very well tight to what and where the world has been driven to - it is not normal to have someone spent millions on cars and mansions, suits and jewelry and at the same time watch other ppl suffer from poverty, dying of hunger, no clothes, no availability of first-aid stuff, drinking contaminated water, eating food infested with bugs, etc.
World's economy is based on buying stuff you do not need, when this ends globalization will end.
Do you really need a Ferrari or Porsche to go to the grocery, do you need to wear a $100K watch, $50K suit, etc.
School is no longer school, it is just brainwashing new generations...kids want phones, smart-watches, cars, expensive clothes, expensive shoes, jewelry, books is too old-school - why buy a book when you can get an expensive Tablet...
Quoting hosemaster
{quote} Bullshit
I would like to hear your thoughts and statements or are you one of those psychically unstable that only is capable of expressing hate?
Give me an example in which Germany or France, for example, started an invasion of a foreign country and dragged United States in it, and we speak of NATO.
Quoting ravenbg
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NATO was created for specific purpose, protection from USSR/Russia.
Quoting ALThau
{quote} NATO was created for specific purpose, protection from USSR/Russia.
Did you read the treaty or you are shooting in the dark?
You putin trolls will say anything to avoid the catastrophe he is inflicting on Ukraine, a peaceful freedom loving country. Try as you may to justify this tragedy by attempting to slander freedom loving countries, but it will not work. Nato NEVER threatened russia, ever.
2003 war of mirgage WMD here we go again. No proof needed!

Just hate all these f'king war mongering politicians from us!
Quoting ravenbg
{quote} Why would China need support to invade Taiwan, they can do it anytime. But here is one interesting thing - Russia and China prove to be real allies and they support each other without telling one another what to do and dragging each other into unwanted rivalry against others or against each other, while US drags every NATO member, without asking them, into every conflict they created and continue creating, US tells them what to do.
If China could go it alone--they would have invaded Taiwan already. Russia's "special military operation" in Ukraine demonstrates what will happen when China unilaterally invades Taiwan. Your confidence in China's military does not match the reality that they are just not ready to take on the West....yet.

You need to read the NATO articles to understand why all NATO members participated in Afghanistan after the attack on New York City on September 11, 2001. I'm not aware of any other conflict the USA forced other NATO members into like you said. NATO members did not participate in Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Vietnam, Korea. Those are the major conflicts the US was involved in since the creation of NATO. What conflicts are you referring to?
Quoting ravenbg
{quote} Did you read the treaty or you are shooting in the dark?
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive...exts_17120.htm

Here's a link. NATO was created in response to an expanding Soviet threat. I have a lot of ties to the Balkins and everyone there talks shit about NATO until they need it. Americans don't care and they don't think about your opinions. They willingly spend the lives of young men and trillions in tax dollars helping other countries in times of need and they won't stop just because you don't like it. If the West is so terrible and Russia so great, why does every Balkin desire to go West? I don't know a single person who went to Russia for economic opportunity or more freedom
Quoting moisesfx7
{quote} That's why, because they are allies... not that China needs help from Russia, but precisely to support each other. I found what you said interesting: the United States is using NATO as a shield in this war... and I think that this will have serious consequences.
Russia is more in trouble more than anybody.
Both presidents support each other. If China will help Russia out in any way, serious sanctions will be implemented. All world is bulk buying from China. China will never risk economic damage, I think the answer is no, China will stay out of problem.
Quoting Mary
{quote} If China could go it alone--they would have invaded Taiwan already. Russia's "special military operation" in Ukraine demonstrates what will happen when China unilaterally invades Taiwan. Your confidence in China's military does not match the reality that they are just not ready to take on the West....yet. You need to read the NATO articles to understand why all NATO members participated in Afghanistan after the attack on New York City on September 11, 2001. I'm not aware of any other conflict the USA forced other NATO members into...
list is very long
foreign interventions by the United States

how about nonmilitary interventions?
"a 2016 study by Carnegie Mellon University from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. professor Dov Levin found that the United States intervened in 81 foreign elections between 1946 and 2000, with the majority of those being through covert, rather than overt, actions."
The leading nation that implements a worldwide system will always need to defend it. There's no way that the chinese government would be any better than the US. I would expect them to be even more evil

The world needs a better alternative to the US system and the wannabe hegemons
Quoting hosemaster
You putin trolls will say anything to avoid the catastrophe he is inflicting on Ukraine, a peaceful freedom loving country. Try as you may to justify this tragedy by attempting to slander freedom loving countries, but it will not work. Nato NEVER threatened russia, ever.
yes freedom loving ukraines gov stoped young men at the border and told them they are cannon fodder is that not true freedom
Quoting ravenbg
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You forgot that Soviet Union has bombarding Afghanistan during 10 years and killed about half a million civilians, you also forgot about 71,000 strikes of russian forces in Syria.

Selective memory, eh?
Quoting ScalaFX
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Gold is going up so no
Quoting ravenbg
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Why do the brave ex soviet states trying to get away from russia and join nato then, smart guy.
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pathetic putin attack other country and need help from human rights expert china and xi.

Does it tell how great soviet russia and how genius putin is. Next he will ask help from mother Theresa and Madagascar, pointing finger his u.S.s.R map.
thinking that island name means Mad ass gas Car.

Cant even beat own sisters,brothers,mothers,fathers.( both countries people have family ties)

people in ukraine don't want be part of Kleptocratic soviet russia, same as they communist past. they can see improvement of peoples life in Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Latvia,Lithuania,Czech,Romania .....

despot putin was thinking russian speaking ukraine would love to kiss his stinking heavy band hairy nuts.
and its easy to walk to ukraine, instead they fight tight together, against our modern time anti human.

Did they shoot James Webb space telescope to his ass. It looks that is where he love to watch and observe , his own rotten universum.'

putin boils, he cant understand why he so wonderful most genius person, is not chosen by citizen of ukraine.
they have gas and oil, what west would buy and not from him, and make his regime members more richer, and his grip to germany will loosen.
He is today's chicago style al capone who can't stand other distributors in his "patch".


we never forget horrors of stalin what he did in Ukraine.

Other countries has same experience of russian mad despots attacks against other free nations.

STAY STRONG UKRAINE you can beat the despot.

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N-A-T-O
stand for
" Never-Action-Talking-Only"
Quoting Mattmee
N-A-T-O stand for " Never-Action-Talking-Only"
Go back to kindergarten, beware kids there are more clever than you.
Quoting kk100
{quote} Go back to kindergarten, beware kids there are more clever than you.
and you
If you guys understands the chinese and look back into the history. They always play the long game. They will not risk economic damage to aid Russia at this very moment.. YET.
Quoting Aussi
{quote} and you
You Should go too, your sentences are shorter and meaningless than toddlers.
Quoting Mattmee
N-A-T-O stand for " Never-Action-Talking-Only"
North Atlantic Peace Operation.

Quoting Aussi
{quote} and you
Stop flaming Aussie lol.
Quoting kk100
{quote} Only real Americans are natives, every other people there are invaders, from east and west.
well, living in peace with the natives was NEVER an option, right? wiping them out of the face of the Earth was the better one?

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Rednecks populate every country. You hate America and Americans including people from your country hated communism.
me thinks, he is more afraid of all of the friendly nato nukes that could send him and his entire family out to an unscheduled journey to the Lord of the Lights. history repeats. nukes on civil people. twice. does it ring any bells?

speaking of rednecks. here is their advanced alternative in the jo-jo LOW BALL beliefs:
https://twitter.com/hedgeye/status/1...558262787?s=21

Putin being responsible for the historically high US inflation? like he, prints the US Dollar or having anything in common with the US Dollar in general? LOL!

rednecks believe in gods. and stupid religions. not even close to this new lower low. grande lower low...
Quoting kk100
{quote} Go back to kindergarten, beware kids there are more clever than you.
...and I was very-very clever and faster than you in fact. For example I've found and joint FF five month earlier than you scumbag. Now, who must back to kindergarten exactly?
Quoting jiajcc
If you guys understands the chinese and look back into the history. They always play the long game. They will not risk economic damage to aid Russia at this very moment.. YET.
Yep.

russia is selling lot of weapons to India, and India and China has constant conflicts northern area of India and China.
China is building military installations and airfields near border of india and some areas of Bhuttan

Its not win win situation for russia. They will ask more than gas/oil or gold from russia, and wait and think what to do with south sea.

China will benefit current situation automatically, they have free moves on chess board.

from west they will ask if they don't support, west have to stop pressurize human rights stuff etc...
Quoting jiajcc
If you guys understands the chinese and look back into the history. They always play the long game. They will not risk economic damage to aid Russia at this very moment.. YET.
No one understands China, but yes re "They always play the long game.", or seem to. Scary.
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} well, living in peace with the natives was NEVER an option, right? wiping them out of the face of the Earth was the better one? {quote} me thinks, he is more afraid of all of the friendly nato nukes that could send him and his entire family out to an unscheduled journey to the Lord of the Lights. history repeats. nukes on civil people. twice. does it ring any bells? speaking of rednecks. here is their advanced alternative in the jo-jo LOW BALL beliefs: https://twitter.com/hedgeye/status/1...558262787?s=21 Putin...

MoneyZilla would you teach matmee, I rather exchange messages with you.

Need to start trading, I will response to you later.

1800's when there wasnt U.S.S.R or eastern block.
lot of people around europe were moving to u.s.a land of the dreams.
balkans,sicilians,italians, middle earth europeans, vulgaria, russia

So your ancestors are part of bombing japan with nukes

and as well invasion of japan army to korean penisula and china and war with russia. which happend just before second world war.
The wounds are still very deep what japanese army did in far east. It is more than people died in those u.s nukes.

But offcourse we can allways blame U.S.A who ever kills anywhere everywhere in universum.
just shoot your neighbor and blame u.s.a and they did 80 yrs ago. you have allways free jail card from monopoly.
You also can rape womens, etc.. because you have that free card and what was normal 80 yrs ago. and what japanese did for chinese and korean population and everywhere around far east.
Quoting kk100
{quote} lot of people around europe were moving to u.s.a land of the dreams. balkans,sicilians,italians, middle earth europeans, vulgaria, russia So your ancestors are part of bombing japan with nukes...
very afraid this is not true. even for a moment. it was a nice try at your end. to wipe out your bloody hands with "the help" of the others...

very low ball. like putin's fault on the super high us inflation.

you wiped out the natives yourself. nukes japan yourself.

if we were to help you? we would have been a part of country's control and management, which we are not. most of us hardly get any us visas. just for the tourist trips... to leave a flower on our ancestor graves who helped you with the natives and the nukes...
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zilla.

Our natives have been living here at least 5000 yrs and European part of russia. (western part from ural mountain)
stalin and brezhnev successfully moved many of them to gulags in siberia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
kk100, i understand your desperate need for outer support. unfortunately, america was part of the british empire. then became independent, somehow. we are not sharing the same passions. nuking civilian? eradicating entire nations? between 2 and 4 mil of them went to unplanned meeting with the lord of the lights? nobody really knows their entire number. probably even the lord of the lights, as a male - he does not care for a moment...
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Quoting MoneyZilla
kk100, i understand your desperate need for outer support. unfortunately, america was part of the british empire. then became independent, somehow. we are not sharing the same passions. nuking civilian? eradicating entire nations? between 2 and 4 mil of them went to unplanned meeting with the lord of the lights? nobody really knows their entire number. probably even the lord of the lights, as a male - he does not care for a moment...
wrong there were French and Spanish colonies too, America wasn't part of british empire. Some part was.
example remember Alamo song if not remember history, its quite selective and stuck with U.S nuke.

You can read how much tension between china and other far east countries have because of japanese actions.
It's pure hate and boycotts, they remember action of imperialistic empereor of Rising Sun.

Because you have wooden eyes and narrow selective vision of history or not know.

and you tell its oke russia attack ukraine because u.s drop nukes japan.
Here are some information what happend 80 yrs ago that region.

"Most reasons for anti-Japanese sentiment in China can be directly traced to the Second Sino-Japanese War, which was one theatre of World War II. As a consequence of the war, China suffered 7 million to 16 million civilian deaths and 3 million military casualties."

Japan wasn't innocent school boy throwing rocks. they also committed horrible crimes for civilian population.

In Manchuria, Unit 731, a medical unit of the Japanese army, researched biological warfare using Chinese civilians as test subjects, who were referred to as human 'logs' in the medical journals. Women from many Asian countries, including China, were made to serve as prostitutes in military brothels.

For you all these things whats happening is emojis and LOL's and joking.
and not understand civilian deaths in ukraine and attack of ukraine .

and only thing what you can say is U.S drop nuke to japan.

When others message is war have to stop in ukraine and deaths of civilian population.

I think you are also pure psychopath and owner of putins necklace.
Quoting Mattmee
{quote} ...and I was very-very clever and faster than you in fact. For example I've found and joint FF five month earlier than you scumbag. Now, who must back to kindergarten exactly?

Jeesus what a comment,

For that you must got multiple pearl necklace from putin.
dear kk100. the level. here.

https://twitter.com/wsbchairman/stat...696424454?s=21

btw, Hollywood is a better history teacher than you.
Lmao i just got my post censored yeah facts must hurt someone :

That is a lie. We sent troops to iraq and iran. In europe.
Im not taking a side here because i obviously live in a freedom of speech country where for all its corruption at least im allowed most of my freedom.
BUT that being said? Americans took it upon themselves to try and eradicate islamic evil from the face of the earth but they realized it was impossible and they dragged the entire nato with them. And we all got targets of terrorism later on. Now in order to keep russia in check they have been accepting countries in their borders to join nato against what was previously agreed upon the minsky treaty. And they dennied russia participation. Adding to the fact the biotech labs are actually real and there have been videos of the us secretary admiting they are concerned about russia taking over their labs lmao if i were putin, even of i dont agree with his regeem, say what you want i would do exactly the same.

The only big victims here are the ucranians who gave away their nuclear power in exchange for russian protection and by making the mistake of dealing with america and placing the labs there in exchange to join eu and nato, they became a target. And that is the problem noonecis adressing here
Quoting kk100
{quote} wrong there were French and Spanish colonies too, America wasn't part of british empire. Some part was. example remember Alamo song if not remember history, its quite selective and stuck with U.S nuke. You can read how much tension between china and other far east countries have because of japanese actions. It's pure hate and boycotts, they remember action of imperialistic empereor of Rising Sun. Because you have wooden eyes and narrow selective vision of history or not know. and you tell its oke russia attack ukraine because u.s drop nukes...
got your history wrong Alamo was Mexican and texas was claimed by Americans and wanted a free state so again you make sht up as you go get back to trading you might loses more money go on get
Quoting Aussi
{quote} got your history wrong Alamo was Mexican and texas was claimed by Americans and wanted a free state so again you make sht up as you go get back to trading you might loses more money go on get
Idiot that was example of mexico which was spanish colony, and how late some part became todays u.s
america wasnt part of british empire, there where operating spain, french, and england.

Do you know there are french speaking population still in louisiana, vermont, maine.

There were war against england, people in u.s didn't want pay taxes to crown,

thats why i commented, u.s wasn't england empire, and many parts were french and spanish colonies.

but its too much for you understand it.
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