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digit1288
Feb 21, 2022 5:48am
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There's been a war in Donbas since 2014. Why is the situation suddenly 'Critical' now and not a month or a year ago?

What's next?

"Taliban are in Afghanistan"

"BREAKING: Water is Wet"
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foto
Feb 21, 2022 6:00am
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Biden has really not much to bring from a negotiating stance.
US military does not want direct confrontation with Russian troops. That would bring with it potential for all out War. Certainly not over Ukraine.
Biden can not offer US energy to replace Russian as he has torpedoed US as an exporter. Removes the Oil/Gas economic weapon as Europe still needs Russian energy.
US neocons have over reached and Putin knows it.

Banking and monetary sanctions may have some bite in them as Putin does like living large and isolating Russia will hurt them somewhat but not extraordinarily.
Putin does like a quite Homeland without strife. It is good for business.

Putin, Europe and Biden may find some common ground but that would take a functioning mind in the White-house which currently is absent.

Best that would come of this is a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine but a change in status of current Civil War is not likely.
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digit1288
Feb 21, 2022 5:59am
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Breaking: Us sec. State blinken says unidentified intelligence sources have confirmed water will be wet, imminently.
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FraterRedox
Feb 21, 2022 10:48am
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Quoting Igrok
{quote} Ukraine is a failed state because of the coup d'état instigated by the West back in 2014... they lost most of its economy because the west doesn't allow any new completion on their markets while Ukraine was forced to break all the economic ties with Russia thus completely losing access to the Russian market... though same thing has happened earlier to Baltic republics Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as well as to most of the Eastern European countries.... their economy is not self-sufficient also and greatly depends on foreign financial help......
You are delusional.
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FraterRedox
Feb 21, 2022 11:26am
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Quoting Igrok
{quote} sorry to say that but your country Estonia is a net recipient of financial help from EU.... here is the graph... here is the detailed overview... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318 now you may call BBC "delusional" if you wish to...)))) also about Estonia: "Estonia directs European funds into the development of education, employment, environment, economy, energy, transports and information technology. Estonia pays around 1.4 billion euro into the EU budget. Hence, Estonia will receive 4.5 billion euros...
Sorry to disappoint you, but that net is ab 2% of Estonian economy, that doesnt make Estonia not being self sufficient, does it.
Also - Estonia has one of the lowest net public debt, 2.5% - we don´t borrow money.
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Mitiblotch
Feb 21, 2022 6:00am
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Quoting digit1288
There's been a war in Donbas since 2014. Why is the situation suddenly 'Critical' now and not a month or a year ago? What's next? "Taliban are in Afghanistan" "BREAKING: Water is Wet"
You remember Covid 19? Exactly the same tactic.
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W0lfram
Feb 21, 2022 10:44am
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Quoting Igrok
{quote} Ukraine was forced to break all the economic ties with Russia thus completely losing access to the Russian market...
What? RU in top-3 of UA import/export all these years.
RossEdwards
Feb 21, 2022 10:03am
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Quoting Igrok
{quote} there is a difference... by now Ukraine has become an apparent "failed state"... it cannot survive on its own without constant foreign support... instead of being an asset is has become a liability for whatever external power would be in control of it... therefore US is trying to throw the destroyed Ukrainian state on the balance sheet of Russia, and Russia refuses to accept such a "gift", because it does not have sufficient resources to restore such a large territory with such a huge population... but US also does not...
Excellent analysis.
And in it you have exposed Putins strategy.
Ukraine is a "Failed State" BECAUSE of Putin.
And that the deal tats on the table.
Putin: "You play my game or I will continue to destabilize your economy and curb your ability to attract investment or progress reform". In the extreme I will invade and occupy you.
Why? because the LAST thing Putin wants is to see the transformation of a previously Russian dominated state finding prosperity through its association with the EU.
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FraterRedox
Feb 21, 2022 11:54am
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Quoting Igrok
{quote} I understand your concept... Estonia doesn't borrow money.... it accepts European money as a gift... from God perhaps...)))
That money is 2% of our economy, yet you talk about it like we get 98%.
You might also want to do a research on our support to other, non-EU, countries.
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 11:09am — Edited
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Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} You are delusional.
sorry to say that but your country Estonia is a net recipient of financial help from EU.... here is the graph... here is the detailed overview... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318 now you may call BBC "delusional" if you wish to...)))) also about Estonia:
"Estonia directs European funds into the development of education, employment, environment, economy, energy, transports and information technology. Estonia pays around 1.4 billion euro into the EU budget. Hence, Estonia will receive 4.5 billion euros more from the EU than it pays in the following seven years.
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hesron
Feb 21, 2022 5:55am
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Why Market is not wise and stands on a disgusting issue
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RossEdwards
Feb 21, 2022 10:30am
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Horseshit
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hkg_paul
Feb 21, 2022 6:06am
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same game like 2014
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 10:18am
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Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Excellent analysis. And in it you have exposed Putins strategy. Ukraine is a "Failed State" BECAUSE of Putin. And that the deal tats on the table. Putin: "You play my game or I will continue to destabilize your economy and curb your ability to attract investment or progress reform". In the extreme I will invade and occupy you. Why? because the LAST thing Putin wants is to see the transformation of a previously Russian dominated state finding prosperity through its association with the EU.
Ukraine is a failed state because of the coup d'état instigated by the West back in 2014... they lost most of its economy because the west doesn't allow any new completion on their markets while Ukraine was forced to break all the economic ties with Russia thus completely losing access to the Russian market... though same thing has happened earlier to Baltic republics Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as well as to most of the Eastern European countries.... their economy is not self-sufficient also and greatly depends on foreign financial help... they survive at the expense of other European economies, mostly Germany...
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 11:03am
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Quoting W0lfram
{quote} What? RU in top-3 of UA import/export all these years.
Ukraine has lost all the Russian contracts in aviation industry, ship making industry, weaponry making, agriculture and so on... Ukraine even lost a great deal of gas transit volume from Russia to Europe and will soon be cut off completely... today Russia is mostly an exporter in regards to Ukraine while before it used to be a net importer of Ukrainian goods and services.... you better look at the numbers in its dynamic...
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 11:30am
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Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} Sorry to disappoint you, but that net is ab 2% of Estonian economy, that doesnt make Estonia not being self sufficient, does it. Also - Estonia has one of the lowest net public debt, 2.5% - we don´t borrow money.
I understand your concept... Estonia doesn't borrow money.... it accepts European money as a gift... from God perhaps...)))
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 12:03pm
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Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} That money is 2% of our economy, yet you talk about it like we get 98%. You might also want to do a research on our support to other, non-EU, countries.
I didn't say anything about 98% and only said what I said.... though the strong fact still is that the country is spending more than it is making... am I delusional or what?...
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 7:29am — Edited
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Quoting digit1288
There's been a war in Donbas since 2014. Why is the situation suddenly 'Critical' now and not a month or a year ago? What's next? "Taliban are in Afghanistan" "BREAKING: Water is Wet"
there is a difference... by now Ukraine has become an apparent "failed state"... it cannot survive on its own without constant foreign support... instead of being an asset is has become a liability for whatever external power would be in control of it... therefore US is trying to throw the destroyed Ukrainian state on the balance sheet of Russia, and Russia refuses to accept such a "gift", because it does not have sufficient resources to restore such a large territory with such a huge population... but US also does not have the resources required to continue supporting Ukraine at least in a semi-alive conditions and wants to get rid of it... it's pretty much like an inverted tag of war game where both opponents are trying to avoid taking full control and responsibility over such a toxic asset by playing giveaway strategy...
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Trader#1CE7
Feb 21, 2022 9:16am
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Quoting hkg_paul
same game like 2014
Russia has the biggest foreign money reserve of any country currently. Also, can the US stop China from trading with Russia? Don't think so... So no isolation, for Mr Putin...
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 10:36am
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Quoting RossEdwards
Horseshit
being politically biased and ignorant sometimes can be a blessing for some people... though not in regards to practical trading...
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Igrok
Feb 21, 2022 11:27am
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I honestly still don't get the concept of why being a patriot quite often is synonymous to being an idiot? Can anyone explain it to me?
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