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    Facebook has reached an agreement with the Australian government and will restore news pages in the country days after restricting them. The decision follows negotiations between the tech giant and the Australian government, which is set to pass a new media law that will require digital platforms to pay for news. “After further discussions, we are satisfied that the Australian government has agreed to a number of changes and guarantees that address our core concerns about allowing commercial deals that recognize the value our platform provides to publishers relative to the value we receive from them,” Facebook ... (full story)

Whats wrong with Australia, do they only have facebook limitations as newspaper? Have their internet been hijacked and only shows facebook news, of which without facebook news - its dooms day??? Has Australia descended to an autocratic rule by scott morrison - he lets you see what he wants you to see????

Remind me of a cyclone natural disaster in usa few years back, where power and phone lines were all cut during the storm and some local dim wits trying to go internet/online (???) to search what cyclone was.......duh where is the internet.......
Quoting NotBoris
Whats wrong with Australia, do they only have facebook limitations as newspaper? ........Has Australia descended to an autocratic rule by scott morrison - he lets you see what he wants you to see................
all governments, news agencies , social media agencies only show you "what they want you to see " according to their chosen idealogies they are funded to promote, or subvert.
on the nail NotBoris!
All that FB have realized by back tracking their autocracy is that ...hmmm ? lets retain our influence over the subcontinent of Australia
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Quoting NotBoris
Whats wrong with Australia, do they only have facebook limitations as newspaper? Have their internet been hijacked and only shows facebook news, of which without facebook news - its dooms day??? Has Australia descended to an autocratic rule by scott morrison - he lets you see what he wants you to see???? Remind me of a cyclone natural disaster in usa few years back, where power and phone lines were all cut during the storm and some local dim wits trying to go internet/online (???) to search what cyclone was.......duh where is the internet.......
Sort of. As an Aussie I was a bit bewildered at what all the fuss was about when FB pulled the plug. We do indeed have all the internet resources that everyone else does in free countries. And our newsagents have abundant hardcopy newspapers, magazines etc both locally and from around the world (depending on the newsagent).

For Australia to be so apparently reliant (its not) for news content on a giant foreign company headed up by a child multi billionaire narcissist is just so slightly insane. For want of a stronger superlative.

The people in our national government are weak and simple minded. They do what they are told by their bureaucrats.

FB had been shamelessly breaking the law for years (by lifting content from Aussie publishers without paying them) until these measures were introduced. When they left we ought to have said goodbye, good riddance, don't ever even think about returning except as a place to post cat videos.
Quoting LloydOz
{quote} Sort of. As an Aussie I was a bit bewildered at what all the fuss was about when FB pulled the plug. We do indeed have all the internet resources that everyone else does in free countries. And our newsagents have abundant hardcopy newspapers, magazines etc both locally and from around the world (depending on the newsagent). For Australia to be so apparently reliant (its not) for news content on a giant foreign company headed up by a child multi billionaire narcissist is just so slightly insane. For want of a stronger superlative. The people...
Quote" For Australia to be so apparently reliant.... for news content on a giant foreign company headed up by a child multi billionaire narcissist is just so slightly insane."


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Yep never bought into the BOOK. Can't even say I had a profile then deleted it. (do they actually delete? I doubt it). I feel there will be a correlation of a certain level of IQ and how much that individual gives a toss whether Facebook operates in their country.
My washing machine broke down the other day should I report it on facebook or do you not give a sh.....?
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You AUssies were LESS bothered about the China Trade threats!
https://theconversation.com/theres-n...threats-149828
Funny.. While we quibble about this FB/Aus Gov spat..
We ignore the real issues and the elephants in the room. Among these.. and underlying the discomfort of National Governments and thinking society, with the big 5 US Tech MNs.. - 1.Abuse Monopoly Power -2.Taxation avoidance - 3.Privacy and Data leakage and security. Data collection is the heart of their business models and BD is both the currency and most valuable asset of the 21 century, about to be become more so with development of AI and super computing.
Agree Ross
These large tech giants sprung up in next to no time and the ever exapnding and unprepared governance (in pretty much all parts of the world) have been knocked off their feet and are still staggering to get upright. (ok maybe not China)
Here in the UK i see weak quick fix short termism.
I have a vote ready for anyone who dares to look further than four years. (This view also mustn't involve killing fellow peasants from another country).
In the short term I have a vote for someone who can balance the books.
Australia is simply not big enough to take on FB. Perhaps if the EU did this they could force serious payment results. Not that Australia or others could then force similar agreements. Overall the answer is competing platforms that are either true platforms, or publishers with the FB format that pay per click. The rate ought to be miniscule since each click can also be called an advertisement. Besides that any publication that does not want "free" shares can put up a pay wall like the NY Times.
Quoting gat
Australia is simply not big enough to take on FB. .
There is the Rupert Murdoch factor which poor baby Zuckerberg didn't count on with Australia. Did you?
Quoting gat
Australia is simply not big enough to take on FB. Perhaps if the EU did this they could force serious payment results. Not that Australia or others could then force similar agreements. Overall the answer is competing platforms that are either true platforms, or publishers with the FB format that pay per click. The rate ought to be miniscule since each click can also be called an advertisement. Besides that any publication that does not want "free" shares can put up a pay wall like the NY Times.
Youve got it. There are only 3 economic powers large enough to curb the march of the big Tech MNs.
The US.. who are compromised , China.. who has already cut them off for its own reasons, and EU, which has already taken steps on privacy and will shortly go a deal further.
Those little clicks result in billion$ of revenue, don;t under-estimate them.
and actually Australia has proved it is "big" enough to take on FB. they deserve respect, for having cohones to do that~!
Perhaps then publicly share the fronted head line , and then pay for the deeper drill down ,
and btw i am not to enamoured with the veracity of NY times new$ drill downs. i have regularly critiqued their fake financial news posts, and of course they would never respond.

the trouble is, during the times of Fake New$ now, new$ needs to be networked checked for veracity and be scrubbed of any idealogical slant or bias.
please don't pay to have your mind hijacked ,
and on that subject start trolling .....
many places to start e.g.
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Quoting aquavox
and actually Australia has proved it is "big" enough to take on FB..
That kinda goes without saying. What's "big"?

Anyone who says otherwise is displaying their utter ignorance and small minds about Australia's quite comprehensive anti-competitive laws (änti-trust" laws) and Corporations laws to protect exactly what happens within our sovereign territory.

FB ran away, poor babies. Google knelt, and sort of complied under duress.

On this particular issue, what other country has dared to even come close? They like to watch.
Quoting RossEdwards
{quote} Youve got it. There are only 3 economic powers large enough to curb the march of the big Tech MNs..
You don't say what this "march" is. You mention monopoly, which is wrong.

I did notice that you surreptitiously deleted two key word from a quote of mine you displayed. ""ÏTS NOT". That changed everything, and you know it.
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Quoting LloydOz
{quote} You don't say what this "march" is. You mention monopoly, which is wrong. I did notice that you surreptitiously deleted two key word from a quote of mine you displayed. ""ÏTS NOT". That changed everything, and you know it.

WTF??? Your post was quoted in full in my post.. In an extract from that full quotation.. I redacted a comment which appeared in brackets and which clearly represented your Personal Judgement which I felt irrelevant to the point I was making. The redacted words werent "surreptitious deleted"..they were clearly signaled by insertion
of " ...... " in that extract.
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